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    replied to taniwharugby on last edited by
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    @taniwharugby That sports rep article is fucking irresponsible for several reasons. As others have said, compromising the suppression order and giving ammunition to the defence lawyer. But also, now people start looking at all the men who are 26 and have repped in sport at a national level. And that fucking sucks. (Besides the fact that his sporting past have no relevance to this case whatsoever.)

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    @chris-b Police interviewed the owner of my local Dairy several times for the Baird murder. He was a very very strange and disturbing individual.

    WE ALL KNEW HE FUCKING DID IT 😉

    Or at least were certain enough not to buy loose sweets from his shop

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    @dogmeat Were you living in Oamaru at the time? 🙂

    Apr 2, 2013

    Actions compromised Beard inquiry

    Actions compromised Beard inquiry

    Reverberations from Bruce Hutton's planting of a cartridge case to convict Arthur Allan Thomas spread to another of New Zealand's highest-profile...

    The book I read (possibly the one mentioned) made it pretty clear in my mind that Bray did it.

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    @chris-b don't you geddit. He was a weird fucker - and he had a Vauxhall The lynch mob were definitely on stand by.

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    Apparently we all see a little bit of ourselves in Grace.

    Um , ok.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/109298726/grace-millane-thousands-to-gather-to-remember-british-backpacker

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    @dogmeat Yeah - my father reckoned there was a local guy who shoulda been interviewed just because he had a Vauxhall. Other than that he was a respectable member of the community!

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    Would the PM have apologized on behalf of NZ if the victim had been male?

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    @frank said in Grace Millane:

    Would the PM have apologized on behalf of NZ if she hadnt been in the middle of a scandal involving a drug dealer with links to her?

    made a slight edit

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    @frank only if he was gay, trans gender or identified as a minority

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    wrote on last edited by sparky
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    My sincere condolences to Grace's family and friends. What a horrible thing to happen to a young woman. May justice be done and may she then rest in peace.

    There is something spineless, absurd and slightly sinister about the NZ media not releasing information that is freely available online or has been in almost every UK paper. Free societies depend on the free press to function.

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    @sparky said in Grace Millane:

    My deep condolences to Grace's family and friends. What a horrible thing to happen to a young woman. May justice be done and may she then rest in peace.

    There is something spineless and slightly sinister about the NZ media not releasing information that is freely available online or has been in almost every UK paper. Free societies depend on the free press to function.

    Well no cos it might fuck the case against him completely. They're actually trying to do the right thing.

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    replied to sparky on last edited by taniwharugby
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    @sparky it is illegal for them to release the information in NZ, so they are complying and that makes them sinister and spineless..??

    YOu may have heard of that presumption of innocence until proven guilty?

    Think of all the sinister people out there that might do things to his family based on the Newspapers naming and shaming him as guilty.

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    These injunctions never work. Anyone who reads the Evening Standard or Daily Telegraph website knows the name of the man in police custody.

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    @sparky said in Grace Millane:

    These injunctions never work. Anyone who reads the Evening Standard or Daily Telegraph website knows the name of the man in police custody.

    I don't....and I don't.

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    @mn5 But I suspect thousands of New Zealanders do or have done a Google news search or a Twitter search and have found out.

    Let the press report everything, including crimes and alleged crimes freely. Then trust juries to judge cases on the evidence presented to them in court and come to the right decisions.

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    @sparky said in Grace Millane:

    @mn5 But I suspect thousands of New Zealanders do or have done a Google news search or a Twitter search and have found out.

    Let the press report everything, including crimes and alleged crimes freely. Then trust juries to judge cases on the evidence presented to them in court and come to the right decisions.

    So spread a name that is suppressed by a court?

    Righto. Can't see any issues there....

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    @dogmeat said in Grace Millane:

    and he had a Vauxhall

    There was nothing wrong with a Chevette if it was modified a bit. Well a lot. Quite a successful rally car.

    Like @jegga I am amazed at how her Dad has taken it. He seems to realise that it only takes one bad night out, or one sicko and this happens. Not the place that it happens - looking at you Cindy.

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    @mn5 I haven't searched, I dont know his name. I doubt I knew him so will happily sit here thinking he is just a murdering cnut without a name.

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    @taniwharugby said in Grace Millane:

    @mn5 I haven't searched, I dont know his name. I doubt I knew him so will happily sit here thinking he is just a murdering cnut without a name.

    I was a bit busy actually getting on with my life and didn't attend any services for her so I guess I'm a bad person.

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    @dogmeat said in Grace Millane:

    @chris-b don't you geddit. He was a weird fucker - and he had a Vauxhall

    Room for benefit of the doubt. Not like he had a Rover...

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