Grace Millane
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@bovidae said in Grace Millane:
BUT the NZ journalists are being very irresponsible (again) by revealing all these details about this guy when a suppression order is in place. Obviously they (the media) know how far they can go before the line is crossed.
200 nautical miles?
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@taniwharugby
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@no-quarter said in Grace Millane:
Cynical question: do these vigils happen if we remove social media? Would so many be attending if they couldn't narcissistically post about it online?
Any of you old buggers remember anything like this happening before? The reaction seems way OTT given we never get vigils for, say, the innocent children that are regularly killed in domestic violence incidents.
(Edited but probably too late for anyone to take this post seriously now)
I doubt that there were vigils - though there might have been church services - but, I can still very clearly recall the Jennifer Beard murder, which the whole country followed avidly for months.
Somewhat similar background to Grace Millane's murder. Read a book about it years later and it seemed like the police had pretty much tracked the guy down who did it - though there were a couple of potential alternatives to confuse matters.
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@taniwharugby That sports rep article is fucking irresponsible for several reasons. As others have said, compromising the suppression order and giving ammunition to the defence lawyer. But also, now people start looking at all the men who are 26 and have repped in sport at a national level. And that fucking sucks. (Besides the fact that his sporting past have no relevance to this case whatsoever.)
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@chris-b Police interviewed the owner of my local Dairy several times for the Baird murder. He was a very very strange and disturbing individual.
WE ALL KNEW HE FUCKING DID IT
Or at least were certain enough not to buy loose sweets from his shop
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@dogmeat Were you living in Oamaru at the time?
Actions compromised Beard inquiry
Reverberations from Bruce Hutton's planting of a cartridge case to convict Arthur Allan Thomas spread to another of New Zealand's highest-profile...
The book I read (possibly the one mentioned) made it pretty clear in my mind that Bray did it.
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Apparently we all see a little bit of ourselves in Grace.
Um , ok.
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My sincere condolences to Grace's family and friends. What a horrible thing to happen to a young woman. May justice be done and may she then rest in peace.
There is something spineless, absurd and slightly sinister about the NZ media not releasing information that is freely available online or has been in almost every UK paper. Free societies depend on the free press to function.
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@sparky said in Grace Millane:
My deep condolences to Grace's family and friends. What a horrible thing to happen to a young woman. May justice be done and may she then rest in peace.
There is something spineless and slightly sinister about the NZ media not releasing information that is freely available online or has been in almost every UK paper. Free societies depend on the free press to function.
Well no cos it might fuck the case against him completely. They're actually trying to do the right thing.
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@sparky it is illegal for them to release the information in NZ, so they are complying and that makes them sinister and spineless..??
YOu may have heard of that presumption of innocence until proven guilty?
Think of all the sinister people out there that might do things to his family based on the Newspapers naming and shaming him as guilty.
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@mn5 But I suspect thousands of New Zealanders do or have done a Google news search or a Twitter search and have found out.
Let the press report everything, including crimes and alleged crimes freely. Then trust juries to judge cases on the evidence presented to them in court and come to the right decisions.
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@sparky said in Grace Millane:
@mn5 But I suspect thousands of New Zealanders do or have done a Google news search or a Twitter search and have found out.
Let the press report everything, including crimes and alleged crimes freely. Then trust juries to judge cases on the evidence presented to them in court and come to the right decisions.
So spread a name that is suppressed by a court?
Righto. Can't see any issues there....
