Grace Millane
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@hooroo said in Grace Millane:
@canefan let's just wait until the suppression is lifted before giving clues etc please
I was only passing on info readily available in the NZ media
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12176070
I have no idea who the guy is
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@virgil said in Grace Millane:
@hooroo said in Grace Millane:
@canefan let's just wait until the suppression is lifted before giving clues etc please
The Ingham twins??
Their exploits are hardly a secret...Yeap!! The link between Millane murder is all tied back to the Ingham Twins and Chicken....
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@hooroo the NZH post on FB about that article is getting lots of abusive angry responses.
At the end of the day, who cares if he was good at sport, he is alleged to be a murdering cnut, ifproven a murdering cnut, then off to jail he goes, sadly our system will unlikely leave him there for as long as he (and other murdering cnuts) deserves.
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I wouldn't want to be on the jury making a decision based on the facts, which will no doubt outrage all of the completely uninformed people on social media unless they give him the harshest possible sentence.
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I don't think that alleged accused in high profile cases should have anymore rights than the rest of us.
BUT the NZ journalists are being very irresponsible (again) by revealing all these details about this guy when a suppression order is in place. Obviously they (the media) know how far they can go before the line is crossed.
I don't know why it isn't just age and sex that can be published. Otherwise name suppression is really worthless. It's like a game where all the clues are given to allow you to work out the final clue and solve the puzzle.
If anyone wants to know his name it is easy enough to find but his lawyer has plenty of ammunition to use for jury selection etc when the trial starts.
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@bovidae said in Grace Millane:
BUT the NZ journalists are being very irresponsible (again) by revealing all these details about this guy when a suppression order is in place. Obviously they (the media) know how far they can go before the line is crossed.
200 nautical miles?
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@taniwharugby
Nah, legally. The UK papers have published his name and photo. -
@no-quarter said in Grace Millane:
Cynical question: do these vigils happen if we remove social media? Would so many be attending if they couldn't narcissistically post about it online?
Any of you old buggers remember anything like this happening before? The reaction seems way OTT given we never get vigils for, say, the innocent children that are regularly killed in domestic violence incidents.
(Edited but probably too late for anyone to take this post seriously now)
I doubt that there were vigils - though there might have been church services - but, I can still very clearly recall the Jennifer Beard murder, which the whole country followed avidly for months.
Somewhat similar background to Grace Millane's murder. Read a book about it years later and it seemed like the police had pretty much tracked the guy down who did it - though there were a couple of potential alternatives to confuse matters.
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@taniwharugby That sports rep article is fucking irresponsible for several reasons. As others have said, compromising the suppression order and giving ammunition to the defence lawyer. But also, now people start looking at all the men who are 26 and have repped in sport at a national level. And that fucking sucks. (Besides the fact that his sporting past have no relevance to this case whatsoever.)
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@chris-b Police interviewed the owner of my local Dairy several times for the Baird murder. He was a very very strange and disturbing individual.
WE ALL KNEW HE FUCKING DID IT
Or at least were certain enough not to buy loose sweets from his shop
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@dogmeat Were you living in Oamaru at the time?
Actions compromised Beard inquiry
Reverberations from Bruce Hutton's planting of a cartridge case to convict Arthur Allan Thomas spread to another of New Zealand's highest-profile...
The book I read (possibly the one mentioned) made it pretty clear in my mind that Bray did it.
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Apparently we all see a little bit of ourselves in Grace.
Um , ok.
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