Grace Millane
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I'd also add this case has highlighted how bad mainstream media is today.
Not just our media who have already been warned by the NZ Law society that they are compromising the case, but also the UK media whose defense of publishing the name of the guy is "well NZ law doesn't apply in the UK". Like no fucking shit Sherlock, we were trying to appeal to your morals not claiming our law applies to the rest of the bloody world.
None of these people seem to give the slightest bit of a shit about the trial and whether or not this family will actually get justice.
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@mokey said in Grace Millane:
@taniwharugby Ask no questions about ferners who no longer post, and you'll be told no lies.
I do hate that Grace's killing has now been locked into a discussion about domestic violence. Completely separate issues. What about the poor woman who was killed by her partner on the same day? (In Flatbush or something?)
I want to see the stats of who is committing these revolting crimes. Ages. Ethnicity. Socio-economic background. So resources etc can be targeted. It pissed me off when Cunliffe apologised on behalf of all men, and saying 'men need to do better' is not helpful. All the guys I know have managed to make it through without raping or murdering a woman. So let's not waste time spreading the message thin.
And some proper stats about prevalence, police reports, convictions, percentage of popn offending, gender trends ( some say women domestically assaulting men as much as 40% of all incidents), ages of offenders etc
Paint a clear picture of specifically (as possible) who these people are, then we can work on a proper reduction strategy.
No chance of the shrill brigade backing up their accusation with data or facts though.
Fuck it's such a waste of time and energy - mindlessly demanding everyone must change, it's fucking tiring
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What are basic facts of the case? I feel stupid for asking, but I still don’t know how she was killed. Has this been made public yet?
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@salacious-crumb said in Grace Millane:
What are basic facts of the case? I feel stupid for asking, but I still don’t know how she was killed. Has this been made public yet?
We don't know. We do know that her body was found in tact.
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@salacious-crumb said in Grace Millane:
What are basic facts of the case? I feel stupid for asking, but I still don’t know how she was killed. Has this been made public yet?
She was last seen entering a hotel with the man who has been charged with her murder. It was caught on CCTV. The hotel appears to be where tge accused lives/d.
Her body was found a few metres off the road in the Waitakeres.
There is interest in a red Toyota Corolla hire car that was later found in Taupo.
That's about it.
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@booboo MSM would have you believe he raped her, beat her and murdered her (order yet to be established) all because she was a a female and he was just your everyday typical bloke.
Man I feel bad about being a man, I might go hand myself to the police for all the rapes I could commit
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@booboo said in Grace Millane:
There is interest in a red Toyota Corolla hire car that was later found in Taupo.
Thanks. Any reports yet how suspect was apprehended?
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@salacious-crumb I believe it was due to CCTV footage of them together at the Hotel and subsequent interviews with him revealed he was involved in her death.
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They also located a shovel believed to be related to the enquiry.
The rental car located in Taupo was not driven there by the man in question. It was only rented for 24h before being returned and rented by another party.
Edit: Official updates
Update - Grace Millane investigation
<strong>To be attributed to Detective Inspector Scott Beard, Auckland City Police:</strong>A shovel that was the subject of a Police appeal in relation to the Grace Millane investigation has...
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@salacious-crumb said in Grace Millane:
@booboo said in Grace Millane:
There is interest in a red Toyota Corolla hire car that was later found in Taupo.
Thanks. Any reports yet how suspect was apprehended?
Not sure. Has that been reported?
Edit: except what @taniwharugby said
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From The Mirror.
November 20: Grace Millane arrives in New Zealand from Peru. She had been in nearly daily contact with her family.
November 30: Ms Millane posts her last tweet saying 'I think travelling has changed me I just brought some blue jeans.'
December 1: Ms Millane is seen on CCTV leaving a hotel in Auckland at 7.15pm. ... She is seen at the CityLife Hotel, in Auckland, with a 'male companion' at 9.40pm.
December 2: The 22-year-old's birthday. Her family do not hear anything from her, which is unusual behaviour. Just before noon, a red Toyota Corolla is hired from a central Auckland rental firm.
December: 3: The Toyota Corolla is returned, and eventually rented out again to persons unrelated to the investigation
December 5: Her worried family file a missing persons report and pictured of Ms Millane are shared extensively online.
December 7: Police said they had received dozens of calls to a hotline and more than 25 staff were working on the case, trawling through hours of CCTV footage to trace her movements. After arriving in Auckland her father, David Millane, makes an emotional plea for help finding his daughter. Police reveal they have spoken to the male companion and he is a person of interest. The man was not taken into custody and police said there was no evidence of foul play.
December 8: A 26-year-old man is taken into custody at a central Auckland address by police. The red Toyota is located in the town of Taupo
December 9: Police announce they are searching an area on Scenic Drive, near the Waitakere Reservoir. Shortly after 4pm local time (3am GMT), police find a body believed to be Ms Millane in vegetation around ten yards from the road. A 26-year-old man is charged with her murder.
December 10: The accused, 26, appears in court in Auckland. He does not enter a plea.
Have made a couple of edits to remove names.
WRT the Corolla, I got the impression from reports it had been dumped at Taupo. Appears it was located there with the next hirers, as no doubt the cops wanted to forensically examine it. Slight red herring.
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@booboo said in Grace Millane:
From The Mirror.
November 20: Grace Millane arrives in New Zealand from Peru. She had been in nearly daily contact with her family.
November 30: Ms Millane posts her last tweet saying 'I think travelling has changed me I just brought some blue jeans.'
December 1: Ms Millane is seen on CCTV leaving a hotel in Auckland at 7.15pm. ... She is seen at the CityLife Hotel, in Auckland, with a 'male companion' at 9.40pm.
December 2: The 22-year-old's birthday. Her family do not hear anything from her, which is unusual behaviour. Just before noon, a red Toyota Corolla is hired from a central Auckland rental firm.
December: 3: The Toyota Corolla is returned, and eventually rented out again to persons unrelated to the investigation
December 5: Her worried family file a missing persons report and pictured of Ms Millane are shared extensively online.
December 7: Police said they had received dozens of calls to a hotline and more than 25 staff were working on the case, trawling through hours of CCTV footage to trace her movements. After arriving in Auckland her father, David Millane, makes an emotional plea for help finding his daughter. Police reveal they have spoken to the male companion and he is a person of interest. The man was not taken into custody and police said there was no evidence of foul play.
December 8: A 26-year-old man is taken into custody at a central Auckland address by police. The red Toyota is located in the town of Taupo
December 9: Police announce they are searching an area on Scenic Drive, near the Waitakere Reservoir. Shortly after 4pm local time (3am GMT), police find a body believed to be Ms Millane in vegetation around ten yards from the road. A 26-year-old man is charged with her murder.
December 10: The accused, 26, appears in court in Auckland. He does not enter a plea.
Have made a couple of edits to remove names.
WRT the Corolla, I got the impression from reports it had been dumped at Taupo. Appears it was located there with the next hirers, as no doubt the cops wanted to forensically examine it. Slight red herring.
I think NZH and stuff did put up articles like this. But they were lost in the flood of wailing and shaming articles
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Kerre mcIvor joins in the griefapalooza and makes it all about her .
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12176867
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@jegga Grace could have been her daughter...did she know the father?
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@taniwharugby said in Grace Millane:
@jegga Grace could have been her daughter...did she know the father?
Having seen her in clubs in Wellington 22 years ago I doubt it.
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@jegga said in Grace Millane:
Kerre mcIvor joins in the griefapalooza and makes it all about her .
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12176867
Ok at least to her credit she did say it's not a them vs us argument....
The rest is very 'Me, Me, Me' though
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https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12176421
This article is taking a slightly different angle than most of the others....
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