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Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka

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  • Chris B.C Chris B.

    So has Tom Latham done enough yet to sneak past Rigor Richardson on New Zealand's pantheon of openers?

    Scored more runs at a faster rate, and more (8 vs 4) and bigger hundreds.

    Still a lower average (44 vs 41) and Rigor has still faced 1000 balls more than Tom.

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    @Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

    So has Tom Latham done enough yet to sneak past Rigor Richardson on New Zealand's pantheon of openers?

    Scored more runs at a faster rate, and more (8 vs 4) and bigger hundreds.

    Still a lower average (44 vs 41) and Rigor has still faced 1000 balls more than Tom.

    Still not sold on Latham. He scores large against Sri Lanka, Zimbots, and the Bangas, which pads his average nicely. Against the rest he is rather average.

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      So has Tom Latham done enough yet to sneak past Rigor Richardson on New Zealand's pantheon of openers?

      Scored more runs at a faster rate, and more (8 vs 4) and bigger hundreds.

      Still a lower average (44 vs 41) and Rigor has still faced 1000 balls more than Tom.

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      @Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

      Rigor has still faced 1000 balls more than Tom.

      114 balls faced vs 86 balls faced per inning - the better part of five overs of shine more off that ball is a big deal. Both loaded up against the minnows and mid tier nations and didn't post big scores against the very best teams.

      The most outstanding aspect of Rig's batting is that he always showed mental fortitude and application during a period when for the rest of the team it often appeared optional.

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        @Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

        Rigor has still faced 1000 balls more than Tom.

        114 balls faced vs 86 balls faced per inning - the better part of five overs of shine more off that ball is a big deal. Both loaded up against the minnows and mid tier nations and didn't post big scores against the very best teams.

        The most outstanding aspect of Rig's batting is that he always showed mental fortitude and application during a period when for the rest of the team it often appeared optional.

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        @rotated said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

        @Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

        Rigor has still faced 1000 balls more than Tom.

        114 balls faced vs 86 balls faced per inning - the better part of five overs of shine more off that ball is a big deal. Both loaded up against the minnows and mid tier nations and didn't post big scores against the very best teams.

        The most outstanding aspect of Rig's batting is that he always showed mental fortitude and application during a period when for the rest of the team it often appeared optional.

        Rigor averaged 40+ against all nations except Australia (22.22) and South Africa (34.2). He was consistent.
        Latham averages 40+ only against Bangladesh (100.66), Sri Lanka (80), Zimbabwe (84.66) and West Indies (41). Latham looks more like a flat track bully.

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          @Chris-B Probably not yet, but if he gets his average up, yes.

          Lead of 400 at lunch, must be due to declare.

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          @Godder said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

          @Chris-B Probably not yet, but if he gets his average up, yes.

          Lead of 400 at lunch, must be due to declare.

          To be honest, I wouldn't set them less than 550 - and, because I'm conservative, I'd set them 600 in slightly more than two days - if we can.

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            @Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

            Rigor has still faced 1000 balls more than Tom.

            114 balls faced vs 86 balls faced per inning - the better part of five overs of shine more off that ball is a big deal. Both loaded up against the minnows and mid tier nations and didn't post big scores against the very best teams.

            The most outstanding aspect of Rig's batting is that he always showed mental fortitude and application during a period when for the rest of the team it often appeared optional.

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            @rotated Fair points.

            Interestingly, Tom is still more than two years younger than Rigor was when he made his test debut - so unless he falls apart it's probably going to be when rather than if he goes past Rigor.

            All going to plan, from here he should make more test hundreds than Crowe or Rossco.

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              Yeah declare at drinks this evening if we can get there.

              It's a pretty good target already so a declaration would be a bonus.

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                @rotated said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                @Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                Rigor has still faced 1000 balls more than Tom.

                114 balls faced vs 86 balls faced per inning - the better part of five overs of shine more off that ball is a big deal. Both loaded up against the minnows and mid tier nations and didn't post big scores against the very best teams.

                The most outstanding aspect of Rig's batting is that he always showed mental fortitude and application during a period when for the rest of the team it often appeared optional.

                Rigor averaged 40+ against all nations except Australia (22.22) and South Africa (34.2). He was consistent.
                Latham averages 40+ only against Bangladesh (100.66), Sri Lanka (80), Zimbabwe (84.66) and West Indies (41). Latham looks more like a flat track bully.

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                @mimic said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                Rigor averaged 40+ against all nations except Australia (22.22) and South Africa (34.2). He was consistent.
                Latham averages 40+ only against Bangladesh (100.66), Sri Lanka (80), Zimbabwe (84.66) and West Indies (41). Latham looks more like a flat track bully.

                In both cases we are talking about small sample sizes - both lucky to get a home and away series against each nation. Hard to bag Latham's 31.40 average against Pakistan for 2 hundreds and 2 fifties in 15 innings. Same with England in 7 innings averaging 36.42 with 3 fifties. Neither stellar - but fine.

                Both show limitations against top tier attacks as those Rig stats show. His absolute peak was probably the England tour where he absolutely battled (in a good way) to a century against an attack that would a year later roll Australia.

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  @rotated Fair points.

                  Interestingly, Tom is still more than two years younger than Rigor was when he made his test debut - so unless he falls apart it's probably going to be when rather than if he goes past Rigor.

                  All going to plan, from here he should make more test hundreds than Crowe or Rossco.

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                  @Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                  Tom is still more than two years younger than Rigor was when he made his test debut - so unless he falls apart it's probably going to be when rather than if he goes past Rigor.

                  But does Latham have the test scalp of the best batsman in the world (at the time)?

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                    @Chris-B said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                    Tom is still more than two years younger than Rigor was when he made his test debut - so unless he falls apart it's probably going to be when rather than if he goes past Rigor.

                    But does Latham have the test scalp of the best batsman in the world (at the time)?

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                    @rotated That's not a fair challenge - when they play on the same team!

                    Let's hope there's no Indians reading this! 🙂

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                      what strikes me is that Latham bats time and balls - with the middle order he's got to protect, I'll take that everytime. I like that he can act as a fulcrum for others to bat around him. And Nicholls is really growing on me in terms of application and graft - something I'm not used to at #5 for NZ.

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                        How good is this innings after the first innings?

                        How good is it when the best two Batsmen get the lowest scores and those scores are still 40 and 48 ?

                        I'm also loving Latham and Nicholls career stats at the moment too.

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                          Hundy for Nicholls. Great work son.

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                            fuck.

                            Well played tom latham. Application, concentration, fitness and dedication cannot be faulted. 214 run partnership and he ran bllody hard to make sure Nicholls got his hundy.

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                              Poohs. Latham out. 176.

                              Tea.

                              Soooo ... 535 the lead.

                              Declare now or give Col an hour (if he can make it that long) of ODI death batting? Make it a 6-hundy chase in 13 hours?

                              Option A is roughly 2.5/over.

                              I'm a fan of option B (approx 3.5 per over).

                              But would take either.

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                                Poohs. Latham out. 176.

                                Tea.

                                Soooo ... 535 the lead.

                                Declare now or give Col an hour (if he can make it that long) of ODI death batting? Make it a 6-hundy chase in 13 hours?

                                Option A is roughly 2.5/over.

                                I'm a fan of option B (approx 3.5 per over).

                                But would take either.

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                                @booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                                Poohs. Latham out. 176.

                                Tea.

                                Soooo ... 535 the lead.

                                Declare now or give Col an hour (if he can make it that long) of ODI death batting? Make it a 6-hundy chase in 13 hours?

                                Option A is roughly 2.5/over.

                                I'm a fan of option B (approx 3.5 per over).

                                But would take either.

                                grind the fielding team into the dirt...lots of time, as long as we get 3 new balls

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                                  Poohs. Latham out. 176.

                                  Tea.

                                  Soooo ... 535 the lead.

                                  Declare now or give Col an hour (if he can make it that long) of ODI death batting? Make it a 6-hundy chase in 13 hours?

                                  Option A is roughly 2.5/over.

                                  I'm a fan of option B (approx 3.5 per over).

                                  But would take either.

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                                  @booboo said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                                  Declare now or give Col an hour (if he can make it that long) of ODI death batting?

                                  Or 20 minutes.

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                                    Declare about 5:20 or 5:30, Southee and Boult get a full run at them tonight and again tomorrow.

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                                      9/2 already
                                      Over by lunchtime tomorrow

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                                        9/2 already
                                        Over by lunchtime tomorrow

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                                        @Virgil said in Cricket - NZ vs Sri Lanka:

                                        9/2 already
                                        Over by lunchtime tomorrow

                                        Optimistic! Might not even get to stumps the way Boult is bowling.

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                                          I'll take this for the 2018 calendar year thanks

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