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Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad

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  • sharkS shark

    @canefan he's good enough. I thought we'd all know that. Particularly in comparison to Munro. Fitness and form are the issues, which aren't insignificant. But he could be a Watson-esque option for the BCs if he can sort those criteria.

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    @shark said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

    @canefan he's good enough. I thought we'd all know that. Particularly in comparison to Munro. Fitness and form are the issues, which aren't insignificant. But he could be a Watson-esque option for the BCs if he can sort those criteria.

    Awesome. Every team needs someone horrifically overrated in their line up....

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    • MN5M MN5

      @shark said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

      @canefan he's good enough. I thought we'd all know that. Particularly in comparison to Munro. Fitness and form are the issues, which aren't insignificant. But he could be a Watson-esque option for the BCs if he can sort those criteria.

      Awesome. Every team needs someone horrifically overrated in their line up....

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      @MN5 said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

      @shark said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

      @canefan he's good enough. I thought we'd all know that. Particularly in comparison to Munro. Fitness and form are the issues, which aren't insignificant. But he could be a Watson-esque option for the BCs if he can sort those criteria.

      Awesome. Every team needs someone horrifically overrated in their line up....

      at least he can only lose us one DRS per match in ODIs

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        @shark said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

        @canefan he's good enough. I thought we'd all know that. Particularly in comparison to Munro. Fitness and form are the issues, which aren't insignificant. But he could be a Watson-esque option for the BCs if he can sort those criteria.

        Awesome. Every team needs someone horrifically overrated in their line up....

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        @MN5 That really is comical viewing

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        • HoorooH Hooroo

          @MN5 That really is comical viewing

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          @Hooroo said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

          @MN5 That really is comical viewing

          It's so good aye. He was no Brad Haddin but I really couldn't stand that overrated fuck as a player.

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            Still, Watson averaged 40 in ODIs.

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            • sharkS shark

              Still, Watson averaged 40 in ODIs.

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              @shark said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

              Still, Watson averaged 40 in ODIs.

              To be fair he was actually an excellent player in the shorter formats. It was when people compared him to Jaques Kallis I got annoyed.

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                @shark said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

                Still, Watson averaged 40 in ODIs.

                To be fair he was actually an excellent player in the shorter formats. It was when people compared him to Jaques Kallis I got annoyed.

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                @MN5 said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

                @shark said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

                Still, Watson averaged 40 in ODIs.

                To be fair he was actually an excellent player in the shorter formats. It was when people compared him to Jaques Kallis I got annoyed.

                He got the most runs and second-most wickets at the world T20 in 2012

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                  Anyone else keen to jump on the Dougy Bracewell 2019 bandwagon?

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                    Anyone else keen to jump on the Dougy Bracewell 2019 bandwagon?

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                    @rotated said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

                    Anyone else keen to jump on the Dougy Bracewell 2019 bandwagon?

                    I wouldn’t have a problem if he was picked, but the problem is who to leave out?

                    Looking at our allrounders:

                    CdG and Santner are locked in.
                    Neesham must be after his efforts this month.

                    Not much wiggle room there.

                    If his bowling is deemed up to scratch he could go in place of one of the bowlers

                    Boult, Ferguson locked in.
                    Southee probably is too, despite calls on here for him to be dropped. He’s got experience and history of performing under pressure.

                    Sodhi is likely IMO, I just can’t see them taking only one spinner.

                    That leaves Matt Henry who hasn’t had many chances and his form hasn’t been great, so he’d be the most likely to make room for Bracewell.

                    Only other option would be if Nicholls was good enough with the gloves to be back up keeper, he could have Seiferts spot.

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                      @rotated said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

                      Anyone else keen to jump on the Dougy Bracewell 2019 bandwagon?

                      I wouldn’t have a problem if he was picked, but the problem is who to leave out?

                      Looking at our allrounders:

                      CdG and Santner are locked in.
                      Neesham must be after his efforts this month.

                      Not much wiggle room there.

                      If his bowling is deemed up to scratch he could go in place of one of the bowlers

                      Boult, Ferguson locked in.
                      Southee probably is too, despite calls on here for him to be dropped. He’s got experience and history of performing under pressure.

                      Sodhi is likely IMO, I just can’t see them taking only one spinner.

                      That leaves Matt Henry who hasn’t had many chances and his form hasn’t been great, so he’d be the most likely to make room for Bracewell.

                      Only other option would be if Nicholls was good enough with the gloves to be back up keeper, he could have Seiferts spot.

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                      @Gunner said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

                      @rotated said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

                      Anyone else keen to jump on the Dougy Bracewell 2019 bandwagon?

                      I wouldn’t have a problem if he was picked, but the problem is who to leave out?

                      Looking at our allrounders:

                      CdG and Santner are locked in.
                      Neesham must be after his efforts this month.

                      Not much wiggle room there.

                      If his bowling is deemed up to scratch he could go in place of one of the bowlers

                      Boult, Ferguson locked in.
                      Southee probably is too, despite calls on here for him to be dropped. He’s got experience and history of performing under pressure.

                      Sodhi is likely IMO, I just can’t see them taking only one spinner.

                      That leaves Matt Henry who hasn’t had many chances and his form hasn’t been great, so he’d be the most likely to make room for Bracewell.

                      Only other option would be if Nicholls was good enough with the gloves to be back up keeper, he could have Seiferts spot.

                      One decent score in how many fucken attempts and Bracewell is an all rounder? I guess Southee and Boult are too?

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                        @rotated said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

                        Anyone else keen to jump on the Dougy Bracewell 2019 bandwagon?

                        I wouldn’t have a problem if he was picked, but the problem is who to leave out?

                        Looking at our allrounders:

                        CdG and Santner are locked in.
                        Neesham must be after his efforts this month.

                        Not much wiggle room there.

                        If his bowling is deemed up to scratch he could go in place of one of the bowlers

                        Boult, Ferguson locked in.
                        Southee probably is too, despite calls on here for him to be dropped. He’s got experience and history of performing under pressure.

                        Sodhi is likely IMO, I just can’t see them taking only one spinner.

                        That leaves Matt Henry who hasn’t had many chances and his form hasn’t been great, so he’d be the most likely to make room for Bracewell.

                        Only other option would be if Nicholls was good enough with the gloves to be back up keeper, he could have Seiferts spot.

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                        @Gunner said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

                        CdG and Santner are locked in.

                        CdG may be locked in - but he shouldn't be.

                        Given the balance of the team, if selected he would be one of five frontline bowlers plus Kane. The guy averages 50 with the ball in ODI and when you look at his record Kane rarely has the confidence to go back to him for a second (let a lone third) spell with him if he takes tap early (which is often).

                        His batting record is what it is - only 18 innings and it's a different role every game. With one fifty though hardly undroppable.

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @Gunner said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

                          @rotated said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

                          Anyone else keen to jump on the Dougy Bracewell 2019 bandwagon?

                          I wouldn’t have a problem if he was picked, but the problem is who to leave out?

                          Looking at our allrounders:

                          CdG and Santner are locked in.
                          Neesham must be after his efforts this month.

                          Not much wiggle room there.

                          If his bowling is deemed up to scratch he could go in place of one of the bowlers

                          Boult, Ferguson locked in.
                          Southee probably is too, despite calls on here for him to be dropped. He’s got experience and history of performing under pressure.

                          Sodhi is likely IMO, I just can’t see them taking only one spinner.

                          That leaves Matt Henry who hasn’t had many chances and his form hasn’t been great, so he’d be the most likely to make room for Bracewell.

                          Only other option would be if Nicholls was good enough with the gloves to be back up keeper, he could have Seiferts spot.

                          One decent score in how many fucken attempts and Bracewell is an all rounder? I guess Southee and Boult are too?

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                          @MN5 said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

                          One decent score in how many fucken attempts and Bracewell is an all rounder? I guess Southee and Boult are too?

                          The ability to hold his bat should help his case a bit - but Braces should be primarily under consideration as a bowler.

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                            @Gunner said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

                            @rotated said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

                            Anyone else keen to jump on the Dougy Bracewell 2019 bandwagon?

                            I wouldn’t have a problem if he was picked, but the problem is who to leave out?

                            Looking at our allrounders:

                            CdG and Santner are locked in.
                            Neesham must be after his efforts this month.

                            Not much wiggle room there.

                            If his bowling is deemed up to scratch he could go in place of one of the bowlers

                            Boult, Ferguson locked in.
                            Southee probably is too, despite calls on here for him to be dropped. He’s got experience and history of performing under pressure.

                            Sodhi is likely IMO, I just can’t see them taking only one spinner.

                            That leaves Matt Henry who hasn’t had many chances and his form hasn’t been great, so he’d be the most likely to make room for Bracewell.

                            Only other option would be if Nicholls was good enough with the gloves to be back up keeper, he could have Seiferts spot.

                            One decent score in how many fucken attempts and Bracewell is an all rounder? I guess Southee and Boult are too?

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                            @MN5 said in [Black Caps 2019 Cricket World

                            One decent score in how many fucken attempts and Bracewell is an all rounder? I guess Southee and Boult are too?

                            The selectors clearly do by batting him at 7

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                              From what I've heard he has markedly improved with the bat in the past two seasons. He looked very good last night, certainly made a strong claim for a spot

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                                I'd want to see more from Bracewell with both disciplines but especially batting. Handy last night but that was just one performance. He's still very much a bowler who bats a bit for me, which would have him competing with Southee and Henry for a spot. Although as someone pointed out, CDG shouldnt be a shoe-in either.

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                                  Agree with Shark's original post, that will be close to the squad announced for the tournament. It's going to be a meat grinder this CWC as there's no pool play, just play the other nine teams once and the top four go through to the semi-finals.

                                  I posted my squad of 15 in the Sri Lankan thread and I'm still going with Guptill, Nicholls, Williamson, Taylor, Latham (wk), Neesham, CdG, Santner, Henry, Southee and Boult as my starting 11. My four reserves are probably right now Sodhi, Munro, Bracewell, Ferguson. No need for a backup wicketkeeper in this tournament format, Latham you're starting every game mate.

                                  Our batting top 6 is just as good as any other top 6 so it all depends on our bowlers and the type of wicket offered up by England (I've heard spin will be the flavour, but always thought English wickets favour swing which is good for us).

                                  Regarding Guptill's opening partner I would like to see Nicholls tried there as he's had success opening for Canterbury. Latham would be the obvious choice but people forget his horror run in 2016/2017(?) when he was opener and wicketkeeper. He's a lock batting at number 5 imo.
                                  Munro just isn't a McCullum opening batsman, more a Luke Ronchi lower order pinchhitter. So if he makes the team it should be coming in at 7/8.

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                                  • SneakdefreakS Sneakdefreak

                                    Agree with Shark's original post, that will be close to the squad announced for the tournament. It's going to be a meat grinder this CWC as there's no pool play, just play the other nine teams once and the top four go through to the semi-finals.

                                    I posted my squad of 15 in the Sri Lankan thread and I'm still going with Guptill, Nicholls, Williamson, Taylor, Latham (wk), Neesham, CdG, Santner, Henry, Southee and Boult as my starting 11. My four reserves are probably right now Sodhi, Munro, Bracewell, Ferguson. No need for a backup wicketkeeper in this tournament format, Latham you're starting every game mate.

                                    Our batting top 6 is just as good as any other top 6 so it all depends on our bowlers and the type of wicket offered up by England (I've heard spin will be the flavour, but always thought English wickets favour swing which is good for us).

                                    Regarding Guptill's opening partner I would like to see Nicholls tried there as he's had success opening for Canterbury. Latham would be the obvious choice but people forget his horror run in 2016/2017(?) when he was opener and wicketkeeper. He's a lock batting at number 5 imo.
                                    Munro just isn't a McCullum opening batsman, more a Luke Ronchi lower order pinchhitter. So if he makes the team it should be coming in at 7/8.

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                                    @Sneakdefreak said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

                                    Agree with Shark's original post, that will be close to the squad announced for the tournament. It's going to be a meat grinder this CWC as there's no pool play, just play the other nine teams once and the top four go through to the semi-finals.

                                    I posted my squad of 15 in the Sri Lankan thread and I'm still going with Guptill, Nicholls, Williamson, Taylor, Latham (wk), Neesham, CdG, Santner, Henry, Southee and Boult as my starting 11. My four reserves are probably right now Sodhi, Munro, Bracewell, Ferguson. No need for a backup wicketkeeper in this tournament format, Latham you're starting every game mate.

                                    Our batting top 6 is just as good as any other top 6 so it all depends on our bowlers and the type of wicket offered up by England (I've heard spin will be the flavour, but always thought English wickets favour swing which is good for us).

                                    Regarding Guptill's opening partner I would like to see Nicholls tried there as he's had success opening for Canterbury. Latham would be the obvious choice but people forget his horror run in 2016/2017(?) when he was opener and wicketkeeper. He's a lock batting at number 5 imo.
                                    Munro just isn't a McCullum opening batsman, more a Luke Ronchi lower order pinchhitter. So if he makes the team it should be coming in at 7/8.

                                    The problem with no back up wicket keeper is if Latham gets injured for a match, you have Nicholls keeping and, in this format, every game counts.

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                                      Nicholls run of awesomeness has surprised and pleased me in equal measure but having him open all of a sudden instead of keeping him happy and comfortable at 5 is potentially very damaging.

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                                      • H hydro11

                                        @Sneakdefreak said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

                                        Agree with Shark's original post, that will be close to the squad announced for the tournament. It's going to be a meat grinder this CWC as there's no pool play, just play the other nine teams once and the top four go through to the semi-finals.

                                        I posted my squad of 15 in the Sri Lankan thread and I'm still going with Guptill, Nicholls, Williamson, Taylor, Latham (wk), Neesham, CdG, Santner, Henry, Southee and Boult as my starting 11. My four reserves are probably right now Sodhi, Munro, Bracewell, Ferguson. No need for a backup wicketkeeper in this tournament format, Latham you're starting every game mate.

                                        Our batting top 6 is just as good as any other top 6 so it all depends on our bowlers and the type of wicket offered up by England (I've heard spin will be the flavour, but always thought English wickets favour swing which is good for us).

                                        Regarding Guptill's opening partner I would like to see Nicholls tried there as he's had success opening for Canterbury. Latham would be the obvious choice but people forget his horror run in 2016/2017(?) when he was opener and wicketkeeper. He's a lock batting at number 5 imo.
                                        Munro just isn't a McCullum opening batsman, more a Luke Ronchi lower order pinchhitter. So if he makes the team it should be coming in at 7/8.

                                        The problem with no back up wicket keeper is if Latham gets injured for a match, you have Nicholls keeping and, in this format, every game counts.

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                                        @hydro11 In my squad Seifert isn't in the final 15 but he is coincidentally in England on a two-month holiday during the CWC.

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                                        • SneakdefreakS Sneakdefreak

                                          @hydro11 In my squad Seifert isn't in the final 15 but he is coincidentally in England on a two-month holiday during the CWC.

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                                          @Sneakdefreak said in Black Caps 2019 Cricket World Cup Squad:

                                          @hydro11 In my squad Seifert isn't in the final 15 but he is coincidentally in England on a two-month holiday during the CWC.

                                          Sure but if Latham gets injured for one game, that means he misses the rest of the tournament. We could easily be in a situation where we need to win our final game to advance to the semis.

                                          In your squad we have two back up quicks. I can't see the circumstances where Bracewell plays. I think you would need two injuries

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