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is there anywhere in the world where the main farmed animals (sheep, cows) truly roam free and wild?
If we rid ourselves of eating these animals, what happens to these animals, what farmer is gonna keep a herd of cattle with no value to his business? Do these anumals become extinct?
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@Mokey said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@MN5 That headline is...disturbing. I suspect written by someone who is a vegan and continuing a decade long journey to get laid.
Do vegans get laid ? They seem to want to take every ounce of enjoyment out of life .
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No doubt it's been mentioned but another annoyance with vegan food is the insistence on calling their food after meat/fish when it isn't. Like I saw a "vegan fish burger" being advertised. It's not fish you dickheads, it's tofu. Why not just call it what it is?
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@No-Quarter then people would need to google tofu!
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@No-Quarter said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
No doubt it's been mentioned but another annoyance with vegan food is the insistence on calling their food after meat/fish when it isn't. Like I saw a "vegan fish burger" being advertised. It's not fish you dickheads, it's tofu. Why not just call it what it is?
Because even vegans have the decency to realise their food is shit and needs all the help they can get to make it more appealing.
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@Virgil said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@No-Quarter said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
No doubt it's been mentioned but another annoyance with vegan food is the insistence on calling their food after meat/fish when it isn't. Like I saw a "vegan fish burger" being advertised. It's not fish you dickheads, it's tofu. Why not just call it what it is?
Because even vegans have the decency to realise their food is shit and needs all the help they can get to make it more appealing.
If they were decent, they wouldn't tell you it "tastes just like fish/ meat/ etc".
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@antipodean Or that vegan cakes are delicious.
Like fuck they are.
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Irish Ferals are here
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12190060
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Stuff gets to take the moral high ground, its only over the ferald though .
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@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Irish Ferals are here
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12190060
One thing I've noticed during my lifetime is our decreasing ability as individuals or small groups in society to effectively enforce fundamental social norms.
Increasingly we need all manner of authority intervention to settle pretty obvious anti social situations.The upshot of all this is that if you strategically planned and executed a way of life where social approval meant nothing, there's fuck all ways we have of stopping that behaviour or even coping with it.
What to do with people that violate or ignore long held social contracts?
What do you do with people that won't pay fines and aren't deterred by the threat of jail (even on rare occasions where it gets that far)?
You can only remove them from your territory and even that's fraught with damning disapproval.
This is really evident in developing countries with slack law and order, where a community lead hiding takes the place ( bloody effectively to a point, I might add). But not in "civilised" 1st world.
The way things stand now these antisocial groups and individuals know that they'll face little or no consequences, and will be significantly empowered, and we'll have to clean up the mess because of public relations
Frustrates the fuck out of me, but that's what we've got because we have no plan B for 1 or 2 percent who don't give a fuck in a physical world
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@Siam said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Irish Ferals are here
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12190060
One thing I've noticed during my lifetime is our decreasing ability as individuals or small groups in society to effectively enforce fundamental social norms.
Increasingly we need all manner of authority intervention to settle pretty obvious anti social situations.The upshot of all this is that if you strategically planned and executed a way of life where social approval meant nothing, there's fuck all ways we have of stopping that behaviour or even coping with it.
What to do with people that violate or ignore long held social contracts?
What do you do with people that won't pay fines and aren't deterred by the threat of jail (even on rare occasions where it gets that far)?
You can only remove them from your territory and even that's fraught with damning disapproval.
This is really evident in developing countries with slack law and order, where a community lead hiding takes the place ( bloody effectively to a point, I might add). But not in "civilised" 1st world.
The way things stand now these antisocial groups and individuals know that they'll face little or no consequences, and will be significantly empowered, and we'll have to clean up the mess because of public relations
Frustrates the fuck out of me, but that's what we've got because we have no plan be for 1 or 2 percent who don't give a fuck in a physical world
I think a lot of it is down to the fact police aren't allowed to smash people's kneecaps in and chuck them in the cells for the night anymore.
They have to actually talk to them now and they're paranoid ( rightfully so ) that some feral fuck and his ten mates will have their camera phones at the ready just itching for any potential police brutality.
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@Siam said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Irish Ferals are here
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12190060
One thing I've noticed during my lifetime is our decreasing ability as individuals or small groups in society to effectively enforce fundamental social norms.
Increasingly we need all manner of authority intervention to settle pretty obvious anti social situations.The upshot of all this is that if you strategically planned and executed a way of life where social approval meant nothing, there's fuck all ways we have of stopping that behaviour or even coping with it.
What to do with people that violate or ignore long held social contracts?
What do you do with people that won't pay fines and aren't deterred by the threat of jail (even on rare occasions where it gets that far)?
You can only remove them from your territory and even that's fraught with damning disapproval.
This is really evident in developing countries with slack law and order, where a community lead hiding takes the place ( bloody effectively to a point, I might add). But not in "civilised" 1st world.
The way things stand now these antisocial groups and individuals know that they'll face little or no consequences, and will be significantly empowered, and we'll have to clean up the mess because of public relations
Frustrates the fuck out of me, but that's what we've got because we have no plan be for 1 or 2 percent who don't give a fuck in a physical world
We need to take a leaf out of Singapore's book. Harshly punish those who engage in antisocial behaviours that have a significant impact on the rest of the population
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@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Siam said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Irish Ferals are here
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12190060
One thing I've noticed during my lifetime is our decreasing ability as individuals or small groups in society to effectively enforce fundamental social norms.
Increasingly we need all manner of authority intervention to settle pretty obvious anti social situations.The upshot of all this is that if you strategically planned and executed a way of life where social approval meant nothing, there's fuck all ways we have of stopping that behaviour or even coping with it.
What to do with people that violate or ignore long held social contracts?
What do you do with people that won't pay fines and aren't deterred by the threat of jail (even on rare occasions where it gets that far)?
You can only remove them from your territory and even that's fraught with damning disapproval.
This is really evident in developing countries with slack law and order, where a community lead hiding takes the place ( bloody effectively to a point, I might add). But not in "civilised" 1st world.
The way things stand now these antisocial groups and individuals know that they'll face little or no consequences, and will be significantly empowered, and we'll have to clean up the mess because of public relations
Frustrates the fuck out of me, but that's what we've got because we have no plan be for 1 or 2 percent who don't give a fuck in a physical world
We need to take a leaf out of Singapore's book. Harshly punish those who engage in antisocial behaviours that have a significant impact on the rest of the population
Won't be happening anytime soon with horse face in charge. People acting feral is obviously on account of horrible upbringing so let's counsel them first instead of the genuine victims.
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@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Siam said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Irish Ferals are here
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12190060
One thing I've noticed during my lifetime is our decreasing ability as individuals or small groups in society to effectively enforce fundamental social norms.
Increasingly we need all manner of authority intervention to settle pretty obvious anti social situations.The upshot of all this is that if you strategically planned and executed a way of life where social approval meant nothing, there's fuck all ways we have of stopping that behaviour or even coping with it.
What to do with people that violate or ignore long held social contracts?
What do you do with people that won't pay fines and aren't deterred by the threat of jail (even on rare occasions where it gets that far)?
You can only remove them from your territory and even that's fraught with damning disapproval.
This is really evident in developing countries with slack law and order, where a community lead hiding takes the place ( bloody effectively to a point, I might add). But not in "civilised" 1st world.
The way things stand now these antisocial groups and individuals know that they'll face little or no consequences, and will be significantly empowered, and we'll have to clean up the mess because of public relations
Frustrates the fuck out of me, but that's what we've got because we have no plan be for 1 or 2 percent who don't give a fuck in a physical world
We need to take a leaf out of Singapore's book. Harshly punish those who engage in antisocial behaviours that have a significant impact on the rest of the population
Anyone that complains about mistreatment of these types of scumbags should be dealt with too
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@MN5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Siam said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Irish Ferals are here
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12190060
One thing I've noticed during my lifetime is our decreasing ability as individuals or small groups in society to effectively enforce fundamental social norms.
Increasingly we need all manner of authority intervention to settle pretty obvious anti social situations.The upshot of all this is that if you strategically planned and executed a way of life where social approval meant nothing, there's fuck all ways we have of stopping that behaviour or even coping with it.
What to do with people that violate or ignore long held social contracts?
What do you do with people that won't pay fines and aren't deterred by the threat of jail (even on rare occasions where it gets that far)?
You can only remove them from your territory and even that's fraught with damning disapproval.
This is really evident in developing countries with slack law and order, where a community lead hiding takes the place ( bloody effectively to a point, I might add). But not in "civilised" 1st world.
The way things stand now these antisocial groups and individuals know that they'll face little or no consequences, and will be significantly empowered, and we'll have to clean up the mess because of public relations
Frustrates the fuck out of me, but that's what we've got because we have no plan be for 1 or 2 percent who don't give a fuck in a physical world
We need to take a leaf out of Singapore's book. Harshly punish those who engage in antisocial behaviours that have a significant impact on the rest of the population
Won't be happening anytime soon with horse face in charge. People acting feral is obviously on account of horrible upbringing so let's counsel them first instead of the genuine victims.
It's not just us. The West has gone totally overboard with individual rights. Fine these pikies for littering and public disturbance and deport the lot of them
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@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@MN5 said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@canefan said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@Siam said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
@jegga said in Alternative needed from the absolute crap of stuff.co.nz:
Irish Ferals are here
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12190060
One thing I've noticed during my lifetime is our decreasing ability as individuals or small groups in society to effectively enforce fundamental social norms.
Increasingly we need all manner of authority intervention to settle pretty obvious anti social situations.The upshot of all this is that if you strategically planned and executed a way of life where social approval meant nothing, there's fuck all ways we have of stopping that behaviour or even coping with it.
What to do with people that violate or ignore long held social contracts?
What do you do with people that won't pay fines and aren't deterred by the threat of jail (even on rare occasions where it gets that far)?
You can only remove them from your territory and even that's fraught with damning disapproval.
This is really evident in developing countries with slack law and order, where a community lead hiding takes the place ( bloody effectively to a point, I might add). But not in "civilised" 1st world.
The way things stand now these antisocial groups and individuals know that they'll face little or no consequences, and will be significantly empowered, and we'll have to clean up the mess because of public relations
Frustrates the fuck out of me, but that's what we've got because we have no plan be for 1 or 2 percent who don't give a fuck in a physical world
We need to take a leaf out of Singapore's book. Harshly punish those who engage in antisocial behaviours that have a significant impact on the rest of the population
Won't be happening anytime soon with horse face in charge. People acting feral is obviously on account of horrible upbringing so let's counsel them first instead of the genuine victims.
It's not just us. The West has gone totally overboard with individual rights. Fine these pikies for littering and public disturbance and deport the lot of them
Fining/pinching them is easier said than done. The police and or council will need to prove that it was them that did the littering etc. That would mean members of the public being willing to provide a statement and attend court if necessary. An hour and half for the statement and then giving up a whole day's work (possibly more) to attend court if the grubs plead not guilty. And that is even if the police/council can prove which individual(s) from the group did the littering/public nuisance
