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6 Nations 2019

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  • M Machpants

    @Derm-McCrum So if Ireland smash England, do they take top in the world rankings? Either way they'll have it by the end of the tournament

    Edit. No where near, I thought incorrectly the opening game is in England.

    1 New Zealand 92.54
    2 Ireland 91.48 (+0.31)
    3 Wales 87.24
    4 England 85.91 (-0.31)

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    @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

    @Derm-McCrum So if Ireland smash England, do they take top in the world rankings? Either way they'll have it by the end of the tournament

    Edit. No where near, I thought incorrectly the opening game is in England.

    1 New Zealand 92.54
    2 Ireland 91.48 (+0.31)
    3 Wales 87.24
    4 England 85.91 (-0.31)

    No. Ireland beating Eng by over 15 still has them over a point behind NZ.

    England can overtake Ireland with a 15+ win

    If Ireland win all their games they may top the rankings but it is hard to calc that without guessing other outcomes.

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      Uuum Eddie had been partying with Beale, I think

      https://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12504/11610356/eddie-jones-says-jack-nowell-could-be-an-england-flanker

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      • CrucialC Crucial

        @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

        @Derm-McCrum So if Ireland smash England, do they take top in the world rankings? Either way they'll have it by the end of the tournament

        Edit. No where near, I thought incorrectly the opening game is in England.

        1 New Zealand 92.54
        2 Ireland 91.48 (+0.31)
        3 Wales 87.24
        4 England 85.91 (-0.31)

        No. Ireland beating Eng by over 15 still has them over a point behind NZ.

        England can overtake Ireland with a 15+ win

        If Ireland win all their games they may top the rankings but it is hard to calc that without guessing other outcomes.

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        @Crucial said in 6 Nations 2019:

        @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

        @Derm-McCrum So if Ireland smash England, do they take top in the world rankings? Either way they'll have it by the end of the tournament

        Edit. No where near, I thought incorrectly the opening game is in England.

        1 New Zealand 92.54
        2 Ireland 91.48 (+0.31)
        3 Wales 87.24
        4 England 85.91 (-0.31)

        No. Ireland beating Eng by over 15 still has them over a point behind NZ.

        England can overtake Ireland with a 15+ win

        If Ireland win all their games they may top the rankings but it is hard to calc that without guessing other outcomes.

        Do I detect some nervousness amongst the Fern brethren?

        🎣

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          @Crucial said in 6 Nations 2019:

          @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

          @Derm-McCrum So if Ireland smash England, do they take top in the world rankings? Either way they'll have it by the end of the tournament

          Edit. No where near, I thought incorrectly the opening game is in England.

          1 New Zealand 92.54
          2 Ireland 91.48 (+0.31)
          3 Wales 87.24
          4 England 85.91 (-0.31)

          No. Ireland beating Eng by over 15 still has them over a point behind NZ.

          England can overtake Ireland with a 15+ win

          If Ireland win all their games they may top the rankings but it is hard to calc that without guessing other outcomes.

          Do I detect some nervousness amongst the Fern brethren?

          🎣

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          @Derm-McCrum I'm married, being on top in everything is getting boring. A change in position would be nice actually.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @Derm-McCrum I'm married, being on top in everything is getting boring. A change in position would be nice actually.

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            @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

            @Derm-McCrum I'm married, being on top in everything is getting boring. A change in position would be nice actually.

            Welcome to the Fern Mrs mariner4life. I hope you enjoy your stay.

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            • VirgilV Virgil

              @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @Derm-McCrum I'm married, being on top in everything is getting boring. A change in position would be nice actually.

              Welcome to the Fern Mrs mariner4life. I hope you enjoy your stay.

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              @Virgil said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @Derm-McCrum I'm married, being on top in everything is getting boring. A change in position would be nice actually.

              Welcome to the Fern Mrs mariner4life. I hope you enjoy your stay.

              That's pretty good for you. Did your wife's boyfriend type it?

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              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                @Virgil said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @Derm-McCrum I'm married, being on top in everything is getting boring. A change in position would be nice actually.

                Welcome to the Fern Mrs mariner4life. I hope you enjoy your stay.

                That's pretty good for you. Did your wife's boyfriend type it?

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                Virgil
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                @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @Virgil said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @Derm-McCrum I'm married, being on top in everything is getting boring. A change in position would be nice actually.

                Welcome to the Fern Mrs mariner4life. I hope you enjoy your stay.

                That's pretty good for you. Did your wife's boyfriend type it?

                And he’s back..

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                • M Machpants

                  Uuum Eddie had been partying with Beale, I think

                  https://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12504/11610356/eddie-jones-says-jack-nowell-could-be-an-england-flanker

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                  @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  Uuum Eddie had been partying with Beale, I think

                  https://www.skysports.com/rugby-union/news/12504/11610356/eddie-jones-says-jack-nowell-could-be-an-england-flanker

                  Lancaster and Burgess must be having a right old chuckle.

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                    Interesting stats https://www.rugbypass.com/news/discarded-the-sobering-six-nations-4-year-attrition-rate-laid-bare

                    I'd love to see a rugby champ squads equivalent when they are announced

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                    • M Machpants

                      Interesting stats https://www.rugbypass.com/news/discarded-the-sobering-six-nations-4-year-attrition-rate-laid-bare

                      I'd love to see a rugby champ squads equivalent when they are announced

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                      @Machpants An amazing turnover in the squads which isn't all that surprising for such an attritional collision sport, but I wonder what the stats will be for the starting teams.

                      Just goes to highlight why there are so few centurions in the sport. Not playing test rugby must add a couple of years to your earning capacity.

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                      • M Machpants

                        Interesting stats https://www.rugbypass.com/news/discarded-the-sobering-six-nations-4-year-attrition-rate-laid-bare

                        I'd love to see a rugby champ squads equivalent when they are announced

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                        Crucial
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                        @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        I'd love to see a rugby champ squads equivalent when they are announced

                        Haven't calc'd it but pretty sure the ABs 2014 to 2018 EOYT comparison would be similar.
                        Misleading stats IMO. They are taking reference points at key times in the RWC cycle when 'refreshing' is done.
                        Only very key standout players (relative to team strength) survive through multiple cycles. Look at the RWC record books and the names of those at the top of the appearance list. (McCaw, Mealamu, Leonard, Gregan, Burger....)

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                          Derm McCrum
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                          I’d only comment on the Ireland selection but it’s skewed in that he used the wider 46-man squad which included players for a Wolfhounds match vs Saxons that was reduced to 38 for start of Six Nations.

                          As for players changed since 2015 well players like Ross, O’Connell, Reddan, Boss, White, Strauss, Ryan were all in their early 30s so they retired - certainly from test arena. Some weren’t good enough - Cave, Dom Ryan, Keatley - and some left - Madigan, Zebo, Moore.

                          It’s not exactly a picture of attrition.

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                            Good interview with Joe Schmidt on Ireland, playbooks, and a bit about his family/future.

                            https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/rugby-union/11616209/six-nations-2019-joe-schmidt-puts-family-first

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                              Anyone else pretty excited by the 6N starting this weekend? Shaping up as a good few weeks of rugby, with some important form lines being set for September.

                              Can the Irish cement their place as the world's number 1 team?
                              Has Eddie Jones "Eddie Jonesed" England and taken them as far as he can, and they are now backsliding, or are they bouncing back to their previous form?
                              How the fuck are Wales #3 in the world?
                              Can the Scots actually climb the table? (I understand they have a bunch of guys out though) or are they condemned to always scrapping with France & Italy for the spoon?
                              Are France still fucked?

                              I had better check it is actually being shown in Aus, seeing as the country is trying hard to pretend rugby doesn't exist any more.

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                                Time to move the VPN to UK.

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                                  Time to move the VPN to UK.

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                                  @antipodean said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                  Time to move the VPN to UK.

                                  BeIn sports has it all live.

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                                    Yeahtheboys
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                                    No Kieran Marmion? Is a win against all blacks while starting not good enough?

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @antipodean said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                      Time to move the VPN to UK.

                                      BeIn sports has it all live.

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                                      @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                      @antipodean said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                      Time to move the VPN to UK.

                                      BeIn sports has it all live.

                                      Was thinking about joining Kayo as a trial to watch the matches - but they don't appear to have a smart tv app (I don't think my tv is an android tv either so can't get the android app).

                                      Foxtel has no deals at the moment either. :pouting_face:

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        Anyone else pretty excited by the 6N starting this weekend? Shaping up as a good few weeks of rugby, with some important form lines being set for September.

                                        Can the Irish cement their place as the world's number 1 team?
                                        Has Eddie Jones "Eddie Jonesed" England and taken them as far as he can, and they are now backsliding, or are they bouncing back to their previous form?
                                        How the fuck are Wales #3 in the world?
                                        Can the Scots actually climb the table? (I understand they have a bunch of guys out though) or are they condemned to always scrapping with France & Italy for the spoon?
                                        Are France still fucked?

                                        I had better check it is actually being shown in Aus, seeing as the country is trying hard to pretend rugby doesn't exist any more.

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                                        MN5
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                                        @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                        Anyone else pretty excited by the 6N starting this weekend? Shaping up as a good few weeks of rugby, with some important form lines being set for September.

                                        Can the Irish cement their place as the world's number 1 team?
                                        Has Eddie Jones "Eddie Jonesed" England and taken them as far as he can, and they are now backsliding, or are they bouncing back to their previous form?
                                        How the fuck are Wales #3 in the world?
                                        Can the Scots actually climb the table? (I understand they have a bunch of guys out though) or are they condemned to always scrapping with France & Italy for the spoon?
                                        Are France still fucked?

                                        I had better check it is actually being shown in Aus, seeing as the country is trying hard to pretend rugby doesn't exist any more.

                                        I'll let this screenshot prove my point emphatically.....

                                        Screenshot_20190130-175514.png

                                        Of course if you move it just a bit you'll see the Italians sneak a win in 2015 but fuck those spaghetti eating pretenders. What do they actually bring to the tournament apart from Sergio Parisse getting a chance to extend his record for most losses in test rugby history ?

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          Anyone else pretty excited by the 6N starting this weekend? Shaping up as a good few weeks of rugby, with some important form lines being set for September.

                                          Can the Irish cement their place as the world's number 1 team?
                                          Has Eddie Jones "Eddie Jonesed" England and taken them as far as he can, and they are now backsliding, or are they bouncing back to their previous form?
                                          How the fuck are Wales #3 in the world?
                                          Can the Scots actually climb the table? (I understand they have a bunch of guys out though) or are they condemned to always scrapping with France & Italy for the spoon?
                                          Are France still fucked?

                                          I had better check it is actually being shown in Aus, seeing as the country is trying hard to pretend rugby doesn't exist any more.

                                          I'll let this screenshot prove my point emphatically.....

                                          Screenshot_20190130-175514.png

                                          Of course if you move it just a bit you'll see the Italians sneak a win in 2015 but fuck those spaghetti eating pretenders. What do they actually bring to the tournament apart from Sergio Parisse getting a chance to extend his record for most losses in test rugby history ?

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                                          @MN5 so you'd prefer them to not be there just to really cement Scotland's shitness?

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