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6 Nations 2019

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  • M Machpants

    Interesting stats https://www.rugbypass.com/news/discarded-the-sobering-six-nations-4-year-attrition-rate-laid-bare

    I'd love to see a rugby champ squads equivalent when they are announced

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    @Machpants An amazing turnover in the squads which isn't all that surprising for such an attritional collision sport, but I wonder what the stats will be for the starting teams.

    Just goes to highlight why there are so few centurions in the sport. Not playing test rugby must add a couple of years to your earning capacity.

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    • M Machpants

      Interesting stats https://www.rugbypass.com/news/discarded-the-sobering-six-nations-4-year-attrition-rate-laid-bare

      I'd love to see a rugby champ squads equivalent when they are announced

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      Crucial
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      @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

      I'd love to see a rugby champ squads equivalent when they are announced

      Haven't calc'd it but pretty sure the ABs 2014 to 2018 EOYT comparison would be similar.
      Misleading stats IMO. They are taking reference points at key times in the RWC cycle when 'refreshing' is done.
      Only very key standout players (relative to team strength) survive through multiple cycles. Look at the RWC record books and the names of those at the top of the appearance list. (McCaw, Mealamu, Leonard, Gregan, Burger....)

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        I’d only comment on the Ireland selection but it’s skewed in that he used the wider 46-man squad which included players for a Wolfhounds match vs Saxons that was reduced to 38 for start of Six Nations.

        As for players changed since 2015 well players like Ross, O’Connell, Reddan, Boss, White, Strauss, Ryan were all in their early 30s so they retired - certainly from test arena. Some weren’t good enough - Cave, Dom Ryan, Keatley - and some left - Madigan, Zebo, Moore.

        It’s not exactly a picture of attrition.

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          Good interview with Joe Schmidt on Ireland, playbooks, and a bit about his family/future.

          https://www.skysports.com/watch/video/sports/rugby-union/11616209/six-nations-2019-joe-schmidt-puts-family-first

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            Anyone else pretty excited by the 6N starting this weekend? Shaping up as a good few weeks of rugby, with some important form lines being set for September.

            Can the Irish cement their place as the world's number 1 team?
            Has Eddie Jones "Eddie Jonesed" England and taken them as far as he can, and they are now backsliding, or are they bouncing back to their previous form?
            How the fuck are Wales #3 in the world?
            Can the Scots actually climb the table? (I understand they have a bunch of guys out though) or are they condemned to always scrapping with France & Italy for the spoon?
            Are France still fucked?

            I had better check it is actually being shown in Aus, seeing as the country is trying hard to pretend rugby doesn't exist any more.

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              Time to move the VPN to UK.

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              • antipodeanA antipodean

                Time to move the VPN to UK.

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                @antipodean said in 6 Nations 2019:

                Time to move the VPN to UK.

                BeIn sports has it all live.

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                  No Kieran Marmion? Is a win against all blacks while starting not good enough?

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @antipodean said in 6 Nations 2019:

                    Time to move the VPN to UK.

                    BeIn sports has it all live.

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                    @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

                    @antipodean said in 6 Nations 2019:

                    Time to move the VPN to UK.

                    BeIn sports has it all live.

                    Was thinking about joining Kayo as a trial to watch the matches - but they don't appear to have a smart tv app (I don't think my tv is an android tv either so can't get the android app).

                    Foxtel has no deals at the moment either. :pouting_face:

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                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                      Anyone else pretty excited by the 6N starting this weekend? Shaping up as a good few weeks of rugby, with some important form lines being set for September.

                      Can the Irish cement their place as the world's number 1 team?
                      Has Eddie Jones "Eddie Jonesed" England and taken them as far as he can, and they are now backsliding, or are they bouncing back to their previous form?
                      How the fuck are Wales #3 in the world?
                      Can the Scots actually climb the table? (I understand they have a bunch of guys out though) or are they condemned to always scrapping with France & Italy for the spoon?
                      Are France still fucked?

                      I had better check it is actually being shown in Aus, seeing as the country is trying hard to pretend rugby doesn't exist any more.

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                      @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      Anyone else pretty excited by the 6N starting this weekend? Shaping up as a good few weeks of rugby, with some important form lines being set for September.

                      Can the Irish cement their place as the world's number 1 team?
                      Has Eddie Jones "Eddie Jonesed" England and taken them as far as he can, and they are now backsliding, or are they bouncing back to their previous form?
                      How the fuck are Wales #3 in the world?
                      Can the Scots actually climb the table? (I understand they have a bunch of guys out though) or are they condemned to always scrapping with France & Italy for the spoon?
                      Are France still fucked?

                      I had better check it is actually being shown in Aus, seeing as the country is trying hard to pretend rugby doesn't exist any more.

                      I'll let this screenshot prove my point emphatically.....

                      Screenshot_20190130-175514.png

                      Of course if you move it just a bit you'll see the Italians sneak a win in 2015 but fuck those spaghetti eating pretenders. What do they actually bring to the tournament apart from Sergio Parisse getting a chance to extend his record for most losses in test rugby history ?

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        Anyone else pretty excited by the 6N starting this weekend? Shaping up as a good few weeks of rugby, with some important form lines being set for September.

                        Can the Irish cement their place as the world's number 1 team?
                        Has Eddie Jones "Eddie Jonesed" England and taken them as far as he can, and they are now backsliding, or are they bouncing back to their previous form?
                        How the fuck are Wales #3 in the world?
                        Can the Scots actually climb the table? (I understand they have a bunch of guys out though) or are they condemned to always scrapping with France & Italy for the spoon?
                        Are France still fucked?

                        I had better check it is actually being shown in Aus, seeing as the country is trying hard to pretend rugby doesn't exist any more.

                        I'll let this screenshot prove my point emphatically.....

                        Screenshot_20190130-175514.png

                        Of course if you move it just a bit you'll see the Italians sneak a win in 2015 but fuck those spaghetti eating pretenders. What do they actually bring to the tournament apart from Sergio Parisse getting a chance to extend his record for most losses in test rugby history ?

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                        @MN5 so you'd prefer them to not be there just to really cement Scotland's shitness?

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @MN5 so you'd prefer them to not be there just to really cement Scotland's shitness?

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                          @Bones said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          @MN5 so you'd prefer them to not be there just to really cement Scotland's shitness?

                          ATM it's the cheese eating surrender monkeys cementing shitness

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                          • TimT Away
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                            Looks like the fat fuck is going to be dropped:

                            https://www.rugbypass.com/news/bastareaud-set-to-miss-out-with-frances-shock-centre-selection

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @MN5 so you'd prefer them to not be there just to really cement Scotland's shitness?

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                              @Bones said in 6 Nations 2019:

                              @MN5 so you'd prefer them to not be there just to really cement Scotland's shitness?

                              7th in the world fluffybunny and don't you forget it !

                              If being ranked in the top ten in a World tournament is shit then Rugby is about as much of a World Game as loigue.

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                              • MN5M MN5

                                @Bones said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                @MN5 so you'd prefer them to not be there just to really cement Scotland's shitness?

                                7th in the world fluffybunny and don't you forget it !

                                If being ranked in the top ten in a World tournament is shit then Rugby is about as much of a World Game as loigue.

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                                @MN5 well duh, Lebanon is in the league world cup.

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                                • BonesB Bones

                                  @MN5 well duh, Lebanon is in the league world cup.

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                                  @Bones said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                  @MN5 well duh, Lebanon is in the league world cup.

                                  They're great at offensive bombs.

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                                  • Y Yeahtheboys

                                    No Kieran Marmion? Is a win against all blacks while starting not good enough?

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                                    @Yeahtheboys said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                    No Kieran Marmion? Is a win against all blacks while starting not good enough?

                                    Who? Caolin Blade has been in better form for Connacht. Oh and Marmion has an injury as well....

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                                      "England will be without wing Joe Cokanasiga, centre Ben Te’o, hooker Dylan Hartley and flanker Brad Shields for Saturday’s Six Nations opener against holders Ireland".
                                      That's bad luck, they will have to pick some Englishmen instead.

                                      England 25-man squad
                                      Forwards: Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs), Tom Curry (Sale Sharks), Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers), Jamie George (Saracens), Nathan Hughes (Wasps), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Billy Vunipola (Saracens), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs), Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons)

                                      Backs: Chris Ashton (Sale Sharks), Mike Brown (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Leicester Tigers), Jonny May (Leicester Tigers), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Dan Robson (Wasps), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

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                                        "England will be without wing Joe Cokanasiga, centre Ben Te’o, hooker Dylan Hartley and flanker Brad Shields for Saturday’s Six Nations opener against holders Ireland".
                                        That's bad luck, they will have to pick some Englishmen instead.

                                        England 25-man squad
                                        Forwards: Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs), Tom Curry (Sale Sharks), Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers), Jamie George (Saracens), Nathan Hughes (Wasps), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Billy Vunipola (Saracens), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs), Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons)

                                        Backs: Chris Ashton (Sale Sharks), Mike Brown (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Leicester Tigers), Jonny May (Leicester Tigers), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Dan Robson (Wasps), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

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                                        Crucial
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                                        @Daffy-Jaffy said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                        "England will be without wing Joe Cokanasiga, centre Ben Te’o, hooker Dylan Hartley and flanker Brad Shields for Saturday’s Six Nations opener against holders Ireland".
                                        That's bad luck, they will have to pick some Englishmen instead.

                                        England 25-man squad
                                        Forwards: Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs), Tom Curry (Sale Sharks), Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers), Jamie George (Saracens), Nathan Hughes (Wasps), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Billy Vunipola (Saracens), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs), Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons)

                                        Backs: Chris Ashton (Sale Sharks), Mike Brown (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Leicester Tigers), Jonny May (Leicester Tigers), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Dan Robson (Wasps), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

                                        Cheika goes for 24, Eddie 25...…

                                        Just name your fucking 23 FFS and stop playing silly arses

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                                          @Daffy-Jaffy said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          "England will be without wing Joe Cokanasiga, centre Ben Te’o, hooker Dylan Hartley and flanker Brad Shields for Saturday’s Six Nations opener against holders Ireland".
                                          That's bad luck, they will have to pick some Englishmen instead.

                                          England 25-man squad
                                          Forwards: Luke Cowan-Dickie (Exeter Chiefs), Tom Curry (Sale Sharks), Ellis Genge (Leicester Tigers), Jamie George (Saracens), Nathan Hughes (Wasps), Maro Itoje (Saracens), George Kruis (Saracens), Joe Launchbury (Wasps), Courtney Lawes (Northampton Saints), Kyle Sinckler (Harlequins), Billy Vunipola (Saracens), Mako Vunipola (Saracens), Harry Williams (Exeter Chiefs), Mark Wilson (Newcastle Falcons)

                                          Backs: Chris Ashton (Sale Sharks), Mike Brown (Harlequins), Elliot Daly (Wasps), Owen Farrell (Saracens), George Ford (Leicester Tigers), Jonny May (Leicester Tigers), Jack Nowell (Exeter Chiefs), Dan Robson (Wasps), Henry Slade (Exeter Chiefs), Manu Tuilagi (Leicester Tigers), Ben Youngs (Leicester Tigers)

                                          Cheika goes for 24, Eddie 25...…

                                          Just name your fucking 23 FFS and stop playing silly arses

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                                          @Crucial Whatever Krusty can do, Eddie can do 4.166% better.

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