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Black Caps v India

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  • MokeyM Offline
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    Be interesting to see who makes the cut for the last ODI. CdG advanced his case, not sure Henry did. Would like to see Nicholls open the batting again, so not really sure if there is a place for Munro.

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    • MokeyM Mokey

      Be interesting to see who makes the cut for the last ODI. CdG advanced his case, not sure Henry did. Would like to see Nicholls open the batting again, so not really sure if there is a place for Munro.

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      @Mokey esp if that lets us load the middle order with a few more all-rounders. Wonder if we might see Satner, the Neesh and CdG coming in after Latham. Although I'd go Neesh, CdG then Satner in terms of batting order. Or do we give Munro a crack lower down the order?

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        Need to see Guptill put together a string of decent innings also

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          As much as I dislike Munro I tend to think he'll make the WC squad but they'll look for Nicholls as an opening option now and potentially rotate them. We only really have six reasonably experienced ODI batsmen so we're limited for choice unless they try someone new VS Bangladesh (Mitchell if he goes good in the T20s VS India?)

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          • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

            @Mokey esp if that lets us load the middle order with a few more all-rounders. Wonder if we might see Satner, the Neesh and CdG coming in after Latham. Although I'd go Neesh, CdG then Satner in terms of batting order. Or do we give Munro a crack lower down the order?

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            @Paekakboyz I think it's pretty pointless trying Munro lower down - he's not a good enough bowler to warrant a place at 7,8,9... and I think Neesham and de Grandhomme are better options at 6 - much better bowlers and equally likely to come off batting - in fact, I reckon Neesham is simply a better and more versatile batsman than Munro.

            That said, I agree with Shark. I reckon Munro will make the CWC squad, because it's too late to find a credible replacement. As young Gill showed again today - everyone has a learning curve and it's too much to expect a new guy like Will Young will take to ODI cricket like a duck to water. As much as Munro isn't the long term answer, he's probably a better bet than a complete rookie - as our bench option.

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            • MokeyM Mokey

              Be interesting to see who makes the cut for the last ODI. CdG advanced his case, not sure Henry did. Would like to see Nicholls open the batting again, so not really sure if there is a place for Munro.

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              @Mokey said in Black Caps v India:

              Be interesting to see who makes the cut for the last ODI. CdG advanced his case, not sure Henry did. Would like to see Nicholls open the batting again, so not really sure if there is a place for Munro.

              Pretty much the same team, I think with - depending on the pitch - Southee (or Ferguson) perhaps coming in for either Astle or Henry.

              No place for Munro. 🙂

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                Good to win but yet to see a competition. Our guys chasing down a target, or defending a total... so many questions, and still leaves you with the feeling that we will struggle when the pressure is on

                Today was about a swinging ball but not many days in international cricket that the ball swings or seams anymore.

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                • MokeyM Mokey

                  Be interesting to see who makes the cut for the last ODI. CdG advanced his case, not sure Henry did. Would like to see Nicholls open the batting again, so not really sure if there is a place for Munro.

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                  @Mokey said in Black Caps v India:

                  Be interesting to see who makes the cut for the last ODI. CdG advanced his case, not sure Henry did. Would like to see Nicholls open the batting again, so not really sure if there is a place for Munro.

                  He is a slogger who only fits into one game plan. I'm not convinced he has the technique to play any other way

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                    @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                    Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                    and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                    Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                    The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

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                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                    @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                    @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                    Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                    and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                    Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                    The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                    Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                    Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                    Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

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                      @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                      @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                      @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                      Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                      and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                      Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                      The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                      Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                      Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                      Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

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                      #425

                      @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                      @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                      @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                      @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                      Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                      and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                      Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                      The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                      Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                      Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                      Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

                      Sorry I should rephrase slightly. He wasn't far and away the best of his generation. A massive case can be made for Brian Lara. Others like Kallis, Hayden, Ponting etc had amazing records too.

                      No one is saying he wasn't great. No one will say that about KW either.

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                      • N newsjunkie

                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                        @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                        @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                        Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                        and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                        Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                        The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                        Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                        Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                        Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

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                        @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                        Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                        The Don, in fact, went on record to say that he felt he was looking at a 'mirror-image' of himself when he watched Tendulkar play.

                        https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news/when-don-bradman-saw-himself-in-sachin-tendulkar-644298.html

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                        • nzzpN nzzp

                          @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                          Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                          The Don, in fact, went on record to say that he felt he was looking at a 'mirror-image' of himself when he watched Tendulkar play.

                          https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news/when-don-bradman-saw-himself-in-sachin-tendulkar-644298.html

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                          @nzzp said in Black Caps v India:

                          @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                          Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                          The Don, in fact, went on record to say that he felt he was looking at a 'mirror-image' of himself when he watched Tendulkar play.

                          https://www.news18.com/cricketnext/news/when-don-bradman-saw-himself-in-sachin-tendulkar-644298.html

                          How many times have you seen a great Tendulkar innings and not felt good about yourself?

                          Those Indian cricinfo writers sure crack me up with their hyperbole....

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                            cracked me up listening to Stead on RS this morning, talking about Munro/Nicholls opening, and he says beyond Nicholls opening on Saturday, who knows who will open next...um, usually you fella!

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                            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                              cracked me up listening to Stead on RS this morning, talking about Munro/Nicholls opening, and he says beyond Nicholls opening on Saturday, who knows who will open next...um, usually you fella!

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                              @taniwharugby said in Black Caps v India:

                              cracked me up listening to Stead on RS this morning, talking about Munro/Nicholls opening, and he says beyond Nicholls opening on Saturday, who knows who will open next...um, usually you fella!

                              His vagueness is worrying.

                              Perhaps he's had a chat to Jesse Ryder?

                              ...as long as he's not thawing out Bruce Edgar I'll be happy.

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                                I think we are seeing Stead working out how to communicate around his strategies and thinking for selection. I can see him treading carefully as he's still building his connections with the squad. But in saying that coming over all waffley doesn't really sound good in terms of him knowing wtf he's doing.

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                                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                  We’re back.
                                  India are chokers.
                                  We’re in with a real chance at the WC.

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                                  @ACT-Crusader said in Black Caps v India:

                                  We’re back.
                                  India are chokers.
                                  We’re in with a real chance at the WC.

                                  Has 6 drinks, puts on Marto voice
                                  "Bring on the World Cup!!!"

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                                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                    @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                    @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                                    Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                                    and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                                    Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                                    The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                                    Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                                    Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                                    Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

                                    mariner4lifeM Online
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                                    mariner4life
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                                    @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                                    @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                    @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                    @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                                    Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                                    and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                                    Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                                    The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                                    Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                                    Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                                    Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

                                    Brian Lara says bullshit

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                                      @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                      @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                      @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                                      Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                                      and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                                      Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                                      The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                                      Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                                      Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                                      Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

                                      Brian Lara says bullshit

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                                      @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                      @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                                      @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                      @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                      @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                                      Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                                      and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                                      Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                                      The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                                      Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                                      Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                                      Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

                                      Brian Lara says bullshit

                                      Lara was second best ever in my opinion

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                                      • MN5M MN5

                                        @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                        @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                        @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                        @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                                        Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                                        and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                                        Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                                        The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                                        Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                                        Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                                        Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

                                        Brian Lara says bullshit

                                        Lara was second best ever in my opinion

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                                        mariner4life
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                                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                        @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                        @newsjunkie said in Black Caps v India:

                                        @MN5 said in Black Caps v India:

                                        @mariner4life said in Black Caps v India:

                                        @No-Quarter said in Black Caps v India:

                                        Also, we can now say to any arrogant Indian fans "you're nothing without Kohli", which is sure to rile them up a bit.

                                        and Tendulkar was fucking over rated

                                        Some Indians genuinely believe he was better than Bradman.

                                        The fluffybunny wasn't even the best batsman of his generation.

                                        Comparing across eras, especially that far apart is silly.

                                        Tendulkar prior to his elbow injury in the early 2000s, was head and shoulders better than anybody else since Bradman. Those who watched him when he was in his prime with objectivity and understanding of the game know this. The rest, doesn't really matter.

                                        Unfortunately when he was in his prime for the 2nd half of the 90s, India - like NZ today, hardly played enough test cricket. You lot will understand this better when 5 years down the road, other fans come along and shrug off Kane as just another ordinary batsman.

                                        Brian Lara says bullshit

                                        Lara was second best ever in my opinion

                                        not just your opinion mate. A true genius. My 2nd favourite cricketer ever behind Sir Curtly.

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                                          I was a huge Lara fan. At his peak, he was touched by genius in my view - in contrast, Tendulkar was just very, very good.

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