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6 Nations 2019

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    thing is, form leading into RWC isnt always a factor.

    Possibly looking at being the most wide open RWC in many years, if not ever, with ABs always there or thereabouts...
    SA coming along quietly, all but under the radar
    Ireland, while thier confidence will have taken a huge dent, one game wont ruin them...losing is good for you apparently 😆 #peakedalready
    England, another team that is usually there or thereabouts.

    Not sure you can realistically look any further to France (biggest chokers in RWC history) or Wales.

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      thing is, form leading into RWC isnt always a factor.

      Possibly looking at being the most wide open RWC in many years, if not ever, with ABs always there or thereabouts...
      SA coming along quietly, all but under the radar
      Ireland, while thier confidence will have taken a huge dent, one game wont ruin them...losing is good for you apparently 😆 #peakedalready
      England, another team that is usually there or thereabouts.

      Not sure you can realistically look any further to France (biggest chokers in RWC history) or Wales.

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      @taniwharugby said in 6 Nations 2019:

      thing is, form leading into RWC isnt always a factor.

      2007 England proved that form during the tournament doesn't matter much either. They were a dragged toe away from potentially winning the final. And stank up the joint during that horrible, horrible tourney

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      • MN5M MN5

        @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

        Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

        Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

        Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

        Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

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        @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

        Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

        Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

          Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

          Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

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          @Nepia said in 6 Nations 2019:

          @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

          Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

          Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

          Hopefully lots of Articles about Akira Ioane being this year's World Cup bolter.

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          • MN5M MN5

            @Nepia said in 6 Nations 2019:

            @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

            Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

            Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

            Hopefully lots of Articles about Akira Ioane being this year's World Cup bolter.

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            @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

            @Nepia said in 6 Nations 2019:

            @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

            Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

            Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

            Hopefully lots of Articles about Akira Ioane being this year's World Cup bolter.

            That wouldn't surprise me although the reality it will be lots of articles about how lazy he is despite making the most metres all season and more tackles than The Tongan, Taufua or Evans.

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              @taniwharugby said in 6 Nations 2019:

              thing is, form leading into RWC isnt always a factor.

              2007 England proved that form during the tournament doesn't matter much either. They were a dragged toe away from potentially winning the final. And stank up the joint during that horrible, horrible tourney

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              @nzzp said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @taniwharugby said in 6 Nations 2019:

              thing is, form leading into RWC isnt always a factor.

              2007 England proved that form during the tournament doesn't matter much either. They were a dragged toe away from potentially winning the final. And stank up the joint during that horrible, horrible tourney

              Pretty sure there wasn't a world cup in 2007.

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              • MN5M MN5

                @Nepia said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

                Hopefully lots of Articles about Akira Ioane being this year's World Cup bolter.

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                @MN5 good to see you have moved off from Charlie Ngatai as your goto

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @MN5 good to see you have moved off from Charlie Ngatai as your goto

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                  @taniwharugby said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  @MN5 good to see you have moved off from Charlie Ngatai as your goto

                  Who?

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                    also, we have an early front runner for softest yellow of the year, that's going to take some beating. Especially because he was told it was for a late shoulder charge, which it very clearly was not.

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                      @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      In other news, all the losers will play the winners in Round Two.
                      Scot v Irl

                      Could be a cracking game.

                      The Jocks are a tough proposition at Murrayfield, play attacking Rugby and you wonder how much Ireland's confidence (esp. Sexton) has been dented after yesterday's mauling

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                      @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      In other news, all the losers will play the winners in Round Two.
                      Scot v Irl
                      Could be a cracking game.

                      The Jocks are a tough proposition at Murrayfield, play attacking Rugby and you wonder how much Ireland's confidence (esp. Sexton) has been dented after yesterday's mauling

                      Yep. Murray has been off the boil since he came back from his neck injury. Sexton at least had the excuse that he hadn’t played since December before going into the England test. The early possible injury report has Earls, Toner, Ringrose, and definitely Stander out of next week, which added to the absence of Henderson, Beirne, Marmion, Luke McGrath is going to test the depth a fair bit.

                      Either Dillane or Roux partnering Ryan and the other on the bench. POM is also carrying a rib injury that he looks like he hasn’t got over yet, but he’ll soldier on.

                      So Schmidt has a fair bit to do to get them back on the horse for next weekend with the Scots licking their lips.

                      My early guess (assuming the above injuries) for next week’s lineup would be:
                      McGrath, Best*, Furlong
                      Ryan, Roux
                      POM, SOB, Murphy
                      Murray, Sexton*
                      Henshaw/Aki, C Farrell
                      Conway, Stockdale, R Kearney
                      Reps: Scannell, Healy, Porter, Dillane, vdF, Cooney, Carbery, Addison

                      We’ll see how the week goes.

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        Endless kicking bores me.

                        That start be England was awesome and I actually clapped the TV

                        The first Irish try was held up for all money

                        Ireland are still great at holding the ball but don't know what to do with it

                        Youngs is stopping England being a better attacking team be being too slow.

                        The whole tournament was turned on its head this morning

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                        @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        Endless kicking bores me.

                        That start be England was awesome and I actually clapped the TV

                        The first Irish try was held up for all money

                        Ireland are still great at holding the ball but don't know what to do with it

                        Youngs is stopping England being a better attacking team be being too slow.

                        The whole tournament was turned on its head this morning

                        On the whole, I think he did a good job of holding up the English defence with what (at fist glance) seemed to be hesitancy, but as the game wore on was clearly a plan. A couple of steps looking at what options he had close to the ruck to dart himself, or use a crash runner, seemed to open up more space for subsequent phases. I think it was part of the game plan and worked quite well (something I think the ABs should have tried to do more of last November).

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                          @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          Endless kicking bores me.

                          That start be England was awesome and I actually clapped the TV

                          The first Irish try was held up for all money

                          Ireland are still great at holding the ball but don't know what to do with it

                          Youngs is stopping England being a better attacking team be being too slow.

                          The whole tournament was turned on its head this morning

                          On the whole, I think he did a good job of holding up the English defence with what (at fist glance) seemed to be hesitancy, but as the game wore on was clearly a plan. A couple of steps looking at what options he had close to the ruck to dart himself, or use a crash runner, seemed to open up more space for subsequent phases. I think it was part of the game plan and worked quite well (something I think the ABs should have tried to do more of last November).

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                          @junior Obviously John Mitchell is no longer on the coaching team or if he is we will sit back and watch England implode come September

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                            Right, I've finished watching all the 6N from this weekend.

                            Gawd Italy are shit. Like, seriously shit. For 70 minutes. Then suddenly they come alive and the Sweaties look like they're falling apart.

                            Not that Scotland were much better before that, mind. It was overall a fairly ordinary game lit up by foreign players like the 2 Aussies playing for Scotland and the Saffers playing for Italy.

                            Both sides lucky not to lose.

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                              Ireland had that loss coming. They hardly play unbeatable rugby and although they thoroughly deserved their two wins over the ABs a cold look back shows that the first one was them at maximum effort while the ABs were still playing tourists in Chicago. Last year's win was also maximum effort against an out of sorts NZ.
                              Don't get me wrong, they are a very good rugby team with the ability to take a game from a stronger team, but they cannot hope to play at maximum every game or hope their opposition implode (eg France and England last 6N).
                              England have finally realised that they need to play to their strength which is to out muscle other teams. They have the personnel to do that but their achilles heel is that they need to be in the lead or close behind to play that gameplan. Get them behind by 10 and they need a plan B (Ireland are similar).
                              I hope the ABs are planning a blitz approach in the first 20 rather than hoping to sail home strong in the last 20.
                              RWC will be interesting to watch the contrast of styles. England are looking to do a Patriots and, as mentioned above, it could be 2007 all over again.

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                                Right, I've finished watching all the 6N from this weekend.

                                Gawd Italy are shit. Like, seriously shit. For 70 minutes. Then suddenly they come alive and the Sweaties look like they're falling apart.

                                Not that Scotland were much better before that, mind. It was overall a fairly ordinary game lit up by foreign players like the 2 Aussies playing for Scotland and the Saffers playing for Italy.

                                Both sides lucky not to lose.

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                                @NTA said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                Right, I've finished watching all the 6N from this weekend.

                                Gawd Italy are shit. Like, seriously shit. For 70 minutes. Then suddenly they come alive and the Sweaties look like they're falling apart.

                                Not that Scotland were much better before that, mind. It was overall a fairly ordinary game lit up by foreign players like the 2 Aussies playing for Scotland and the Saffers playing for Italy.

                                Both sides lucky not to lose.

                                I didn't know Edinburgh was part of Australia. Fancy that. Cos that's where hat trick hero Blair Kinghorn was born.

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                                • NTAN NTA

                                  Right, I've finished watching all the 6N from this weekend.

                                  Gawd Italy are shit. Like, seriously shit. For 70 minutes. Then suddenly they come alive and the Sweaties look like they're falling apart.

                                  Not that Scotland were much better before that, mind. It was overall a fairly ordinary game lit up by foreign players like the 2 Aussies playing for Scotland and the Saffers playing for Italy.

                                  Both sides lucky not to lose.

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                                  @NTA said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                  Right, I've finished watching all the 6N from this weekend.

                                  Gawd Italy are shit. Like, seriously shit. For 70 minutes. Then suddenly they come alive and the Sweaties look like they're falling apart.

                                  Not that Scotland were much better before that, mind. It was overall a fairly ordinary game lit up by foreign players like the 2 Aussies playing for Scotland and the Saffers playing for Italy.

                                  Both sides lucky not to lose.

                                  Sadly Italy only have one class player and they rarely have more than that. France are France. Scotland need to watch the tapes of their game against the ABs in 2017 and take close note of the clock to see that they were still playing rugby at the 80 minute mark.
                                  Wales are the Luke Whitelock of the 6N.

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                                    I'm not sure how accurate the stats are but I just read that between them Mako V and Jamie George made 45 tackles!
                                    That tells me that Ireland should come up with a plan other than 'run directly at the opposition in close'

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                                      @junior Obviously John Mitchell is no longer on the coaching team or if he is we will sit back and watch England implode come September

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                                      @Nevorian said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                      @junior Obviously John Mitchell is no longer on the coaching team or if he is we will sit back and watch England implode come September

                                      Don't worry about us, we'll be well on the way on our journey by then.

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                                        @Nevorian said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                        @junior Obviously John Mitchell is no longer on the coaching team or if he is we will sit back and watch England implode come September

                                        Don't worry about us, we'll be well on the way on our journey by then.

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                                        @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                        @Nevorian said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                        @junior Obviously John Mitchell is no longer on the coaching team or if he is we will sit back and watch England implode come September

                                        Don't worry about us, we'll be well on the way on our journey by then.

                                        And your fullback will be playing centre.

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                                        • CrucialC Crucial

                                          @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @Nevorian said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @junior Obviously John Mitchell is no longer on the coaching team or if he is we will sit back and watch England implode come September

                                          Don't worry about us, we'll be well on the way on our journey by then.

                                          And your fullback will be playing centre.

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                                          @Crucial said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @Nevorian said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @junior Obviously John Mitchell is no longer on the coaching team or if he is we will sit back and watch England implode come September

                                          Don't worry about us, we'll be well on the way on our journey by then.

                                          And your fullback will be playing centre.

                                          Well we did have a centre playing full back on Saturday, so you could well be right.

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