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6 Nations 2019

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  • Billy TellB Offline
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    I see everyone rushing to anoint England as RWC favs, Rattue included. If there's anything I've learnt, it's that one game means nothing - if England roll all and sundry in the 6N, then let's talk.

    I can't think of such favorable external circumstances for NZ for this RWC - no hometown advantage, except for Japan who are not contenders, and for once NZ are unlikely to be outright favourites.

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      A reading from St Patrick to the Kiwians

      All England tries were legit.
      Ireland were shit.

      Here endeth the lesson.

      In other news, all the losers will play the winners in Round Two.
      Scot v Irl
      Ita v Wal
      Eng v Fra

      If all three continue to win, it makes Round 3 very interesting with
      Sco v Fra and Wal v Eng.

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      @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

      In other news, all the losers will play the winners in Round Two.
      Scot v Irl

      Could be a cracking game.

      The Jocks are a tough proposition at Murrayfield, play attacking Rugby and you wonder how much Ireland's confidence (esp. Sexton) has been dented after yesterday's mauling

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      • Billy TellB Billy Tell

        I see everyone rushing to anoint England as RWC favs, Rattue included. If there's anything I've learnt, it's that one game means nothing - if England roll all and sundry in the 6N, then let's talk.

        I can't think of such favorable external circumstances for NZ for this RWC - no hometown advantage, except for Japan who are not contenders, and for once NZ are unlikely to be outright favourites.

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        @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

        I can't think of such favorable external circumstances for NZ for this RWC - no hometown advantage, except for Japan who are not contenders, and for once NZ are unlikely to be outright favourites.

        More than happy with that. There were questions raised about the ABs at RWC2015 until we hammered France in the quarter-final. Can't help but think that worked in our .

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        • Billy TellB Billy Tell

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

          Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

          Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

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          @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

          Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

          Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

          Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

          Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

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          • MN5M MN5

            @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

            Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

            Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

            Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

            Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

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            @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

            @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

            Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

            Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

            Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

            Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

            Mate, we all gave our journo twats. Where we in the UK have over you Kiwis is we manage to off load the odd fluffybunny down your way. No need for thanks.

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            • CatograndeC Catogrande

              @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

              Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

              Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

              Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

              Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

              Mate, we all gave our journo twats. Where we in the UK have over you Kiwis is we manage to off load the odd fluffybunny down your way. No need for thanks.

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              @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

              @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

              Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

              Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

              Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

              Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

              Mate, we all gave our journo twats. Where we in the UK have over you Kiwis is we manage to off load the odd fluffybunny down your way. No need for thanks.

              You also have good ones. I can't think of any good NZ ones.

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              • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                I see everyone rushing to anoint England as RWC favs, Rattue included. If there's anything I've learnt, it's that one game means nothing - if England roll all and sundry in the 6N, then let's talk.

                I can't think of such favorable external circumstances for NZ for this RWC - no hometown advantage, except for Japan who are not contenders, and for once NZ are unlikely to be outright favourites.

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                #236

                @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                I see everyone rushing to anoint England as RWC favs, Rattue included. If there's anything I've learnt, it's that one game means nothing - if England roll all and sundry in the 6N, then let's talk.

                I can't think of such favorable external circumstances for NZ for this RWC - no hometown advantage, except for Japan who are not contenders, and for once NZ are unlikely to be outright favourites.

                What these experts are not taking into account is England's draw. They have by far the hardest draw of any of the top teams. They have to play Argentina and France in the last two rounds of pool play which effectively means that they have to be close to or at their peak for five consecutive weekends in order to lift the cup. Not an easy ask.

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                • CatograndeC Catogrande

                  @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

                  Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

                  Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

                  Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

                  Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                  Mate, we all gave our journo twats. Where we in the UK have over you Kiwis is we manage to off load the odd fluffybunny down your way. No need for thanks.

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                  @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

                  Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

                  Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

                  Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

                  Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                  Mate, we all gave our journo twats. Where we in the UK have over you Kiwis is we manage to off load the odd fluffybunny down your way. No need for thanks.

                  He's also the kind of piston wristed gibbon who, if the ABs won the final 9-6, would laud them for their 'guts, determination, precision' and any other superlatives.

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                  • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                    thing is, form leading into RWC isnt always a factor.

                    Possibly looking at being the most wide open RWC in many years, if not ever, with ABs always there or thereabouts...
                    SA coming along quietly, all but under the radar
                    Ireland, while thier confidence will have taken a huge dent, one game wont ruin them...losing is good for you apparently šŸ˜† #peakedalready
                    England, another team that is usually there or thereabouts.

                    Not sure you can realistically look any further to France (biggest chokers in RWC history) or Wales.

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      thing is, form leading into RWC isnt always a factor.

                      Possibly looking at being the most wide open RWC in many years, if not ever, with ABs always there or thereabouts...
                      SA coming along quietly, all but under the radar
                      Ireland, while thier confidence will have taken a huge dent, one game wont ruin them...losing is good for you apparently šŸ˜† #peakedalready
                      England, another team that is usually there or thereabouts.

                      Not sure you can realistically look any further to France (biggest chokers in RWC history) or Wales.

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                      @taniwharugby said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      thing is, form leading into RWC isnt always a factor.

                      2007 England proved that form during the tournament doesn't matter much either. They were a dragged toe away from potentially winning the final. And stank up the joint during that horrible, horrible tourney

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

                        Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

                        Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

                        Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

                        Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

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                        Nepia
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                        @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                        Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

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                        • NepiaN Nepia

                          @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                          Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

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                          @Nepia said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                          Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

                          Hopefully lots of Articles about Akira Ioane being this year's World Cup bolter.

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @Nepia said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                            Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

                            Hopefully lots of Articles about Akira Ioane being this year's World Cup bolter.

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                            Nepia
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                            @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            @Nepia said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                            Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

                            Hopefully lots of Articles about Akira Ioane being this year's World Cup bolter.

                            That wouldn't surprise me although the reality it will be lots of articles about how lazy he is despite making the most metres all season and more tackles than The Tongan, Taufua or Evans.

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                              @taniwharugby said in 6 Nations 2019:

                              thing is, form leading into RWC isnt always a factor.

                              2007 England proved that form during the tournament doesn't matter much either. They were a dragged toe away from potentially winning the final. And stank up the joint during that horrible, horrible tourney

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                              @nzzp said in 6 Nations 2019:

                              @taniwharugby said in 6 Nations 2019:

                              thing is, form leading into RWC isnt always a factor.

                              2007 England proved that form during the tournament doesn't matter much either. They were a dragged toe away from potentially winning the final. And stank up the joint during that horrible, horrible tourney

                              Pretty sure there wasn't a world cup in 2007.

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                              • MN5M MN5

                                @Nepia said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                                Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

                                Hopefully lots of Articles about Akira Ioane being this year's World Cup bolter.

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                                @MN5 good to see you have moved off from Charlie Ngatai as your goto

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                                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                  @MN5 good to see you have moved off from Charlie Ngatai as your goto

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                                  @taniwharugby said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                  @MN5 good to see you have moved off from Charlie Ngatai as your goto

                                  Who?

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                                    also, we have an early front runner for softest yellow of the year, that's going to take some beating. Especially because he was told it was for a late shoulder charge, which it very clearly was not.

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                                      @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                      In other news, all the losers will play the winners in Round Two.
                                      Scot v Irl

                                      Could be a cracking game.

                                      The Jocks are a tough proposition at Murrayfield, play attacking Rugby and you wonder how much Ireland's confidence (esp. Sexton) has been dented after yesterday's mauling

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                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                      @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                      In other news, all the losers will play the winners in Round Two.
                                      Scot v Irl
                                      Could be a cracking game.

                                      The Jocks are a tough proposition at Murrayfield, play attacking Rugby and you wonder how much Ireland's confidence (esp. Sexton) has been dented after yesterday's mauling

                                      Yep. Murray has been off the boil since he came back from his neck injury. Sexton at least had the excuse that he hadn’t played since December before going into the England test. The early possible injury report has Earls, Toner, Ringrose, and definitely Stander out of next week, which added to the absence of Henderson, Beirne, Marmion, Luke McGrath is going to test the depth a fair bit.

                                      Either Dillane or Roux partnering Ryan and the other on the bench. POM is also carrying a rib injury that he looks like he hasn’t got over yet, but he’ll soldier on.

                                      So Schmidt has a fair bit to do to get them back on the horse for next weekend with the Scots licking their lips.

                                      My early guess (assuming the above injuries) for next week’s lineup would be:
                                      McGrath, Best*, Furlong
                                      Ryan, Roux
                                      POM, SOB, Murphy
                                      Murray, Sexton*
                                      Henshaw/Aki, C Farrell
                                      Conway, Stockdale, R Kearney
                                      Reps: Scannell, Healy, Porter, Dillane, vdF, Cooney, Carbery, Addison

                                      We’ll see how the week goes.

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                                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                        Endless kicking bores me.

                                        That start be England was awesome and I actually clapped the TV

                                        The first Irish try was held up for all money

                                        Ireland are still great at holding the ball but don't know what to do with it

                                        Youngs is stopping England being a better attacking team be being too slow.

                                        The whole tournament was turned on its head this morning

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                                        @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                        Endless kicking bores me.

                                        That start be England was awesome and I actually clapped the TV

                                        The first Irish try was held up for all money

                                        Ireland are still great at holding the ball but don't know what to do with it

                                        Youngs is stopping England being a better attacking team be being too slow.

                                        The whole tournament was turned on its head this morning

                                        On the whole, I think he did a good job of holding up the English defence with what (at fist glance) seemed to be hesitancy, but as the game wore on was clearly a plan. A couple of steps looking at what options he had close to the ruck to dart himself, or use a crash runner, seemed to open up more space for subsequent phases. I think it was part of the game plan and worked quite well (something I think the ABs should have tried to do more of last November).

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                                          @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          Endless kicking bores me.

                                          That start be England was awesome and I actually clapped the TV

                                          The first Irish try was held up for all money

                                          Ireland are still great at holding the ball but don't know what to do with it

                                          Youngs is stopping England being a better attacking team be being too slow.

                                          The whole tournament was turned on its head this morning

                                          On the whole, I think he did a good job of holding up the English defence with what (at fist glance) seemed to be hesitancy, but as the game wore on was clearly a plan. A couple of steps looking at what options he had close to the ruck to dart himself, or use a crash runner, seemed to open up more space for subsequent phases. I think it was part of the game plan and worked quite well (something I think the ABs should have tried to do more of last November).

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                                          @junior Obviously John Mitchell is no longer on the coaching team or if he is we will sit back and watch England implode come September

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