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6 Nations 2019

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  • sparkyS sparky

    @Crazy-Horse Have you seen the slow motion shot? Slade was behind the ball (just) at the moment when May kicked it.

    I thought disallowing Mako Vunipola a try before half time was harsh.

    More dubious to me was the Daly try. Nowell took out Stockdale when he didn't have the ball.

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    @sparky said in 6 Nations 2019:

    @Crazy-Horse Have you seen the slow motion shot? Slade was behind the ball (just) at the moment when May kicked it.

    I thought disallowing Mako Vunipola a try before half time was harsh.

    More dubious to me was the Daly try. Nowell took out Stockdale when he didn't have the ball.

    I had no real problems with any of the calls on the tries and non-try at the time. Vunipola's non-try looked to me to be just that. Healy's try on reviewing was slightly suss and I'm now surprised that Garces didn't go to the TMO, but to me at the time it wasn't that obvious so I guess Garces should get the same leeway. Daley's try was fine, Ringrose was in contact with the ball when Nowell commenced the tackle, just because he subsequently lost it doesn't make that an off the ball tackle.

    All in all a proper test match, ferocious, committed and in truth the result could have gone either way up until Slade's first try, after that a bit too much of a mountain for the men in green.

    Edit: Looking again at the first Slade try, there's been no mention and in truth I didn't notice it at the time, of Henshaw (last line of defence) taking out May after the kick ahead.

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    • CatograndeC Catogrande

      @sparky said in 6 Nations 2019:

      @Crazy-Horse Have you seen the slow motion shot? Slade was behind the ball (just) at the moment when May kicked it.

      I thought disallowing Mako Vunipola a try before half time was harsh.

      More dubious to me was the Daly try. Nowell took out Stockdale when he didn't have the ball.

      I had no real problems with any of the calls on the tries and non-try at the time. Vunipola's non-try looked to me to be just that. Healy's try on reviewing was slightly suss and I'm now surprised that Garces didn't go to the TMO, but to me at the time it wasn't that obvious so I guess Garces should get the same leeway. Daley's try was fine, Ringrose was in contact with the ball when Nowell commenced the tackle, just because he subsequently lost it doesn't make that an off the ball tackle.

      All in all a proper test match, ferocious, committed and in truth the result could have gone either way up until Slade's first try, after that a bit too much of a mountain for the men in green.

      Edit: Looking again at the first Slade try, there's been no mention and in truth I didn't notice it at the time, of Henshaw (last line of defence) taking out May after the kick ahead.

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      @Catogrande
      It wasn't Ringrose but Stockdale.

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        @Catogrande
        It wasn't Ringrose but Stockdale.

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        @cgrant said in 6 Nations 2019:

        @Catogrande
        It wasn't Ringrose but Stockdale.

        My bad, you’re right. Opposition - they all look the same to me.

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        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

          According to The Guardian, Aura has grabbed her passport and has left the Irish Republic. Puncture wound, apparently.

          "Ireland will surely be better than this but the shamrock aura has been unceremoniously pierced."

          Ireland’s Johnny Sexton fails to lift wilting shamrock against England

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          @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

          According to The Guardian, Aura has grabbed her passport and has left the Irish Republic. Puncture wound, apparently.

          "Ireland will surely be better than this but the shamrock aura has been unceremoniously pierced."

          Ireland’s Johnny Sexton fails to lift wilting shamrock against England

          Aura & Rugby: a History

          All Blacks 1903-2017 (Except for 1948, 1992, 1998, World Cups 1991-2007 and some years ending in 3 playing England)

          Australia 1983-1992 (As known as the Campese effect)

          South Africa 1995-1996 (cf. The Mandela Aura)

          France 1970s-2011 (French Flair: when you least expected it)

          England 2002-2003 (As known as the Woodward years) 2019 (Some sights of a reappearance)

          Wales: The 1970s (Including when Wales players represented the Barbarians)

          Ireland: November 2018-January 2019 (Monte Carlo special)

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            A reading from St Patrick to the Kiwians

            All England tries were legit.
            Ireland were shit.

            Here endeth the lesson.

            In other news, all the losers will play the winners in Round Two.
            Scot v Irl
            Ita v Wal
            Eng v Fra

            If all three continue to win, it makes Round 3 very interesting with
            Sco v Fra and Wal v Eng.

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              A reading from St Patrick to the Kiwians

              All England tries were legit.
              Ireland were shit.

              Here endeth the lesson.

              In other news, all the losers will play the winners in Round Two.
              Scot v Irl
              Ita v Wal
              Eng v Fra

              If all three continue to win, it makes Round 3 very interesting with
              Sco v Fra and Wal v Eng.

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              @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

              A reading from St Patrick to the Kiwians

              ...Ireland were shit.....

              A bit harsh mate, perhaps judging on recent form your expectations are leading you down this road?

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                England are now holders of the Raeburn Shield:

                http://www.raeburnshield.com/previousholders/

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                  I see everyone rushing to anoint England as RWC favs, Rattue included. If there's anything I've learnt, it's that one game means nothing - if England roll all and sundry in the 6N, then let's talk.

                  I can't think of such favorable external circumstances for NZ for this RWC - no hometown advantage, except for Japan who are not contenders, and for once NZ are unlikely to be outright favourites.

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                  • D Derm McCrum

                    A reading from St Patrick to the Kiwians

                    All England tries were legit.
                    Ireland were shit.

                    Here endeth the lesson.

                    In other news, all the losers will play the winners in Round Two.
                    Scot v Irl
                    Ita v Wal
                    Eng v Fra

                    If all three continue to win, it makes Round 3 very interesting with
                    Sco v Fra and Wal v Eng.

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                    @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

                    In other news, all the losers will play the winners in Round Two.
                    Scot v Irl

                    Could be a cracking game.

                    The Jocks are a tough proposition at Murrayfield, play attacking Rugby and you wonder how much Ireland's confidence (esp. Sexton) has been dented after yesterday's mauling

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                    • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                      I see everyone rushing to anoint England as RWC favs, Rattue included. If there's anything I've learnt, it's that one game means nothing - if England roll all and sundry in the 6N, then let's talk.

                      I can't think of such favorable external circumstances for NZ for this RWC - no hometown advantage, except for Japan who are not contenders, and for once NZ are unlikely to be outright favourites.

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                      @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      I can't think of such favorable external circumstances for NZ for this RWC - no hometown advantage, except for Japan who are not contenders, and for once NZ are unlikely to be outright favourites.

                      More than happy with that. There were questions raised about the ABs at RWC2015 until we hammered France in the quarter-final. Can't help but think that worked in our .

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                      • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

                        Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

                        Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

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                        @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

                        Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

                        Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

                        Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

                        Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

                          Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

                          Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

                          Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

                          Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

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                          @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

                          Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

                          Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

                          Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

                          Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                          Mate, we all gave our journo twats. Where we in the UK have over you Kiwis is we manage to off load the odd fluffybunny down your way. No need for thanks.

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                          • CatograndeC Catogrande

                            @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

                            Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

                            Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

                            Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

                            Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                            Mate, we all gave our journo twats. Where we in the UK have over you Kiwis is we manage to off load the odd fluffybunny down your way. No need for thanks.

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                            @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

                            Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

                            Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

                            Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

                            Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                            Mate, we all gave our journo twats. Where we in the UK have over you Kiwis is we manage to off load the odd fluffybunny down your way. No need for thanks.

                            You also have good ones. I can't think of any good NZ ones.

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                            • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                              I see everyone rushing to anoint England as RWC favs, Rattue included. If there's anything I've learnt, it's that one game means nothing - if England roll all and sundry in the 6N, then let's talk.

                              I can't think of such favorable external circumstances for NZ for this RWC - no hometown advantage, except for Japan who are not contenders, and for once NZ are unlikely to be outright favourites.

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                              @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                              I see everyone rushing to anoint England as RWC favs, Rattue included. If there's anything I've learnt, it's that one game means nothing - if England roll all and sundry in the 6N, then let's talk.

                              I can't think of such favorable external circumstances for NZ for this RWC - no hometown advantage, except for Japan who are not contenders, and for once NZ are unlikely to be outright favourites.

                              What these experts are not taking into account is England's draw. They have by far the hardest draw of any of the top teams. They have to play Argentina and France in the last two rounds of pool play which effectively means that they have to be close to or at their peak for five consecutive weekends in order to lift the cup. Not an easy ask.

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                              • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

                                Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

                                Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

                                Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

                                Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                                Mate, we all gave our journo twats. Where we in the UK have over you Kiwis is we manage to off load the odd fluffybunny down your way. No need for thanks.

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                                @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

                                Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

                                Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

                                Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

                                Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                                Mate, we all gave our journo twats. Where we in the UK have over you Kiwis is we manage to off load the odd fluffybunny down your way. No need for thanks.

                                He's also the kind of piston wristed gibbon who, if the ABs won the final 9-6, would laud them for their 'guts, determination, precision' and any other superlatives.

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                                  thing is, form leading into RWC isnt always a factor.

                                  Possibly looking at being the most wide open RWC in many years, if not ever, with ABs always there or thereabouts...
                                  SA coming along quietly, all but under the radar
                                  Ireland, while thier confidence will have taken a huge dent, one game wont ruin them...losing is good for you apparently 😆 #peakedalready
                                  England, another team that is usually there or thereabouts.

                                  Not sure you can realistically look any further to France (biggest chokers in RWC history) or Wales.

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                                  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                    thing is, form leading into RWC isnt always a factor.

                                    Possibly looking at being the most wide open RWC in many years, if not ever, with ABs always there or thereabouts...
                                    SA coming along quietly, all but under the radar
                                    Ireland, while thier confidence will have taken a huge dent, one game wont ruin them...losing is good for you apparently 😆 #peakedalready
                                    England, another team that is usually there or thereabouts.

                                    Not sure you can realistically look any further to France (biggest chokers in RWC history) or Wales.

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                                    @taniwharugby said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                    thing is, form leading into RWC isnt always a factor.

                                    2007 England proved that form during the tournament doesn't matter much either. They were a dragged toe away from potentially winning the final. And stank up the joint during that horrible, horrible tourney

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                                    • MN5M MN5

                                      @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

                                      Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

                                      Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

                                      Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

                                      Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

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                                      @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                      Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                                      Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                        Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                                        Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

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                                        @Nepia said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                        @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                        Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                                        Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

                                        Hopefully lots of Articles about Akira Ioane being this year's World Cup bolter.

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                                        • MN5M MN5

                                          @Nepia said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                                          Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

                                          Hopefully lots of Articles about Akira Ioane being this year's World Cup bolter.

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                                          @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @Nepia said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                                          Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

                                          Hopefully lots of Articles about Akira Ioane being this year's World Cup bolter.

                                          That wouldn't surprise me although the reality it will be lots of articles about how lazy he is despite making the most metres all season and more tackles than The Tongan, Taufua or Evans.

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