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6 Nations 2019

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  • D Derm McCrum

    A reading from St Patrick to the Kiwians

    All England tries were legit.
    Ireland were shit.

    Here endeth the lesson.

    In other news, all the losers will play the winners in Round Two.
    Scot v Irl
    Ita v Wal
    Eng v Fra

    If all three continue to win, it makes Round 3 very interesting with
    Sco v Fra and Wal v Eng.

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    @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

    A reading from St Patrick to the Kiwians

    ...Ireland were shit.....

    A bit harsh mate, perhaps judging on recent form your expectations are leading you down this road?

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      England are now holders of the Raeburn Shield:

      http://www.raeburnshield.com/previousholders/

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        I see everyone rushing to anoint England as RWC favs, Rattue included. If there's anything I've learnt, it's that one game means nothing - if England roll all and sundry in the 6N, then let's talk.

        I can't think of such favorable external circumstances for NZ for this RWC - no hometown advantage, except for Japan who are not contenders, and for once NZ are unlikely to be outright favourites.

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        • D Derm McCrum

          A reading from St Patrick to the Kiwians

          All England tries were legit.
          Ireland were shit.

          Here endeth the lesson.

          In other news, all the losers will play the winners in Round Two.
          Scot v Irl
          Ita v Wal
          Eng v Fra

          If all three continue to win, it makes Round 3 very interesting with
          Sco v Fra and Wal v Eng.

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          #231

          @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

          In other news, all the losers will play the winners in Round Two.
          Scot v Irl

          Could be a cracking game.

          The Jocks are a tough proposition at Murrayfield, play attacking Rugby and you wonder how much Ireland's confidence (esp. Sexton) has been dented after yesterday's mauling

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          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

            I see everyone rushing to anoint England as RWC favs, Rattue included. If there's anything I've learnt, it's that one game means nothing - if England roll all and sundry in the 6N, then let's talk.

            I can't think of such favorable external circumstances for NZ for this RWC - no hometown advantage, except for Japan who are not contenders, and for once NZ are unlikely to be outright favourites.

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            @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

            I can't think of such favorable external circumstances for NZ for this RWC - no hometown advantage, except for Japan who are not contenders, and for once NZ are unlikely to be outright favourites.

            More than happy with that. There were questions raised about the ABs at RWC2015 until we hammered France in the quarter-final. Can't help but think that worked in our .

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            • Billy TellB Billy Tell

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

              Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

              Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

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              @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

              Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

              Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

              Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

              Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

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              • MN5M MN5

                @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

                Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

                Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

                Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

                Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

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                @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

                Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

                Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

                Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

                Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                Mate, we all gave our journo twats. Where we in the UK have over you Kiwis is we manage to off load the odd fluffybunny down your way. No need for thanks.

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                • CatograndeC Catogrande

                  @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

                  Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

                  Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

                  Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

                  Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                  Mate, we all gave our journo twats. Where we in the UK have over you Kiwis is we manage to off load the odd fluffybunny down your way. No need for thanks.

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                  @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

                  Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

                  Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

                  Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

                  Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                  Mate, we all gave our journo twats. Where we in the UK have over you Kiwis is we manage to off load the odd fluffybunny down your way. No need for thanks.

                  You also have good ones. I can't think of any good NZ ones.

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                  • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                    I see everyone rushing to anoint England as RWC favs, Rattue included. If there's anything I've learnt, it's that one game means nothing - if England roll all and sundry in the 6N, then let's talk.

                    I can't think of such favorable external circumstances for NZ for this RWC - no hometown advantage, except for Japan who are not contenders, and for once NZ are unlikely to be outright favourites.

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                    akan004
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                    #236

                    @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                    I see everyone rushing to anoint England as RWC favs, Rattue included. If there's anything I've learnt, it's that one game means nothing - if England roll all and sundry in the 6N, then let's talk.

                    I can't think of such favorable external circumstances for NZ for this RWC - no hometown advantage, except for Japan who are not contenders, and for once NZ are unlikely to be outright favourites.

                    What these experts are not taking into account is England's draw. They have by far the hardest draw of any of the top teams. They have to play Argentina and France in the last two rounds of pool play which effectively means that they have to be close to or at their peak for five consecutive weekends in order to lift the cup. Not an easy ask.

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                    • CatograndeC Catogrande

                      @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

                      Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

                      Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

                      Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

                      Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                      Mate, we all gave our journo twats. Where we in the UK have over you Kiwis is we manage to off load the odd fluffybunny down your way. No need for thanks.

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                      MN5
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                      #237

                      @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

                      Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

                      Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

                      Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

                      Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                      Mate, we all gave our journo twats. Where we in the UK have over you Kiwis is we manage to off load the odd fluffybunny down your way. No need for thanks.

                      He's also the kind of piston wristed gibbon who, if the ABs won the final 9-6, would laud them for their 'guts, determination, precision' and any other superlatives.

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                      • taniwharugbyT Offline
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                        thing is, form leading into RWC isnt always a factor.

                        Possibly looking at being the most wide open RWC in many years, if not ever, with ABs always there or thereabouts...
                        SA coming along quietly, all but under the radar
                        Ireland, while thier confidence will have taken a huge dent, one game wont ruin them...losing is good for you apparently šŸ˜† #peakedalready
                        England, another team that is usually there or thereabouts.

                        Not sure you can realistically look any further to France (biggest chokers in RWC history) or Wales.

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          thing is, form leading into RWC isnt always a factor.

                          Possibly looking at being the most wide open RWC in many years, if not ever, with ABs always there or thereabouts...
                          SA coming along quietly, all but under the radar
                          Ireland, while thier confidence will have taken a huge dent, one game wont ruin them...losing is good for you apparently šŸ˜† #peakedalready
                          England, another team that is usually there or thereabouts.

                          Not sure you can realistically look any further to France (biggest chokers in RWC history) or Wales.

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                          nzzp
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                          @taniwharugby said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          thing is, form leading into RWC isnt always a factor.

                          2007 England proved that form during the tournament doesn't matter much either. They were a dragged toe away from potentially winning the final. And stank up the joint during that horrible, horrible tourney

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @Billy-Tell said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12200385

                            Gifford at his usual sanctimonious best.

                            Would have been delighted if NZ had played like that in Autumn. For the record England scored 4 tries and NZ none.

                            Reading between the lines all I see is 'Ireland beat the ABs, fuck how do I cope, I know, I'll attack them for being boring'....and we have the nerve to go on about Stephen Jones.

                            Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

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                            NepiaN Online
                            Nepia
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                            #240

                            @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                            Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

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                            • NepiaN Nepia

                              @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                              Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                              Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

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                              MN5
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                              @Nepia said in 6 Nations 2019:

                              @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                              Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                              Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

                              Hopefully lots of Articles about Akira Ioane being this year's World Cup bolter.

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                              • MN5M MN5

                                @Nepia said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                                Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

                                Hopefully lots of Articles about Akira Ioane being this year's World Cup bolter.

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                                Nepia
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                                @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                @Nepia said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                                Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

                                Hopefully lots of Articles about Akira Ioane being this year's World Cup bolter.

                                That wouldn't surprise me although the reality it will be lots of articles about how lazy he is despite making the most metres all season and more tackles than The Tongan, Taufua or Evans.

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                                • nzzpN nzzp

                                  @taniwharugby said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                  thing is, form leading into RWC isnt always a factor.

                                  2007 England proved that form during the tournament doesn't matter much either. They were a dragged toe away from potentially winning the final. And stank up the joint during that horrible, horrible tourney

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                                  @nzzp said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                  @taniwharugby said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                  thing is, form leading into RWC isnt always a factor.

                                  2007 England proved that form during the tournament doesn't matter much either. They were a dragged toe away from potentially winning the final. And stank up the joint during that horrible, horrible tourney

                                  Pretty sure there wasn't a world cup in 2007.

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @Nepia said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                    @MN5 said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                    Gifford is so bad though. Articles like this make me long for him writing a Crusaders wankfest.

                                    Super Rugby is about to begin so you'll be getting these weekly very soon.

                                    Hopefully lots of Articles about Akira Ioane being this year's World Cup bolter.

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                                    @MN5 good to see you have moved off from Charlie Ngatai as your goto

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @MN5 good to see you have moved off from Charlie Ngatai as your goto

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                                      @taniwharugby said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                      @MN5 good to see you have moved off from Charlie Ngatai as your goto

                                      Who?

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                                        also, we have an early front runner for softest yellow of the year, that's going to take some beating. Especially because he was told it was for a late shoulder charge, which it very clearly was not.

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                                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                          @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          In other news, all the losers will play the winners in Round Two.
                                          Scot v Irl

                                          Could be a cracking game.

                                          The Jocks are a tough proposition at Murrayfield, play attacking Rugby and you wonder how much Ireland's confidence (esp. Sexton) has been dented after yesterday's mauling

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                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          In other news, all the losers will play the winners in Round Two.
                                          Scot v Irl
                                          Could be a cracking game.

                                          The Jocks are a tough proposition at Murrayfield, play attacking Rugby and you wonder how much Ireland's confidence (esp. Sexton) has been dented after yesterday's mauling

                                          Yep. Murray has been off the boil since he came back from his neck injury. Sexton at least had the excuse that he hadn’t played since December before going into the England test. The early possible injury report has Earls, Toner, Ringrose, and definitely Stander out of next week, which added to the absence of Henderson, Beirne, Marmion, Luke McGrath is going to test the depth a fair bit.

                                          Either Dillane or Roux partnering Ryan and the other on the bench. POM is also carrying a rib injury that he looks like he hasn’t got over yet, but he’ll soldier on.

                                          So Schmidt has a fair bit to do to get them back on the horse for next weekend with the Scots licking their lips.

                                          My early guess (assuming the above injuries) for next week’s lineup would be:
                                          McGrath, Best*, Furlong
                                          Ryan, Roux
                                          POM, SOB, Murphy
                                          Murray, Sexton*
                                          Henshaw/Aki, C Farrell
                                          Conway, Stockdale, R Kearney
                                          Reps: Scannell, Healy, Porter, Dillane, vdF, Cooney, Carbery, Addison

                                          We’ll see how the week goes.

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