Exodus
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@taniwharugby 8 years in the ABs is nothing to be sneezed at.
@Nepia pfft, Money-Bill!!
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@taniwharugby 8 years in the ABs is nothing to be sneezed at.
@Nepia said in Exodus 2019:
@taniwharugby 8 years in the ABs is nothing to be sneezed at.
A single cap off the bench in the 78th minute in black is nothing to sneeze at.
For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much. When all of that is stripped away he has had the Super/Test career of Liam Messam, with a good offload in a RWC final and the record for most cards in AB history.
It's a pity that his code-and-continent-hopping tendencies didn't kick in a season or two earlier (around the same age they do for tenured All Blacks) because he has offered buckleys for anyone other than the journalists this cycle.
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@Nepia said in Exodus 2019:
@taniwharugby 8 years in the ABs is nothing to be sneezed at.
A single cap off the bench in the 78th minute in black is nothing to sneeze at.
For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much. When all of that is stripped away he has had the Super/Test career of Liam Messam, with a good offload in a RWC final and the record for most cards in AB history.
It's a pity that his code-and-continent-hopping tendencies didn't kick in a season or two earlier (around the same age they do for tenured All Blacks) because he has offered buckleys for anyone other than the journalists this cycle.
@rotated said in Exodus 2019:
@Nepia said in Exodus 2019:
@taniwharugby 8 years in the ABs is nothing to be sneezed at.
A single cap off the bench in the 78th minute in black is nothing to sneeze at.
For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much. When all of that is stripped away he has had the Super/Test career of Liam Messam, with a good offload in a RWC final and the record for most cards in AB history.
It's a pity that his code-and-continent-hopping tendencies didn't kick in a season or two earlier (around the same age they do for tenured All Blacks) because he has offered buckleys for anyone other than the journalists this cycle.
What’s Kevin Senio got to do with this?
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Kobe is where Wayne Smith and Dan Carter are. Given how much the Black Jersey means to those two gentlemen, I doubt they'd let Brodie return to NZ broken and fat.
@sparky said in Exodus 2019:
Kobe is where Wayne Smith and Dan Carter are. Given how much the Black Jersey means to those two gentlemen, I doubt they'd let Brodie return to NZ broken and fat.
Huh? All I did was mention he's going to Japan.
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@sparky said in Exodus 2019:
Kobe is where Wayne Smith and Dan Carter are. Given how much the Black Jersey means to those two gentlemen, I doubt they'd let Brodie return to NZ broken and fat.
Huh? All I did was mention he's going to Japan.
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@Nepia said in Exodus 2019:
@taniwharugby 8 years in the ABs is nothing to be sneezed at.
A single cap off the bench in the 78th minute in black is nothing to sneeze at.
For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much. When all of that is stripped away he has had the Super/Test career of Liam Messam, with a good offload in a RWC final and the record for most cards in AB history.
It's a pity that his code-and-continent-hopping tendencies didn't kick in a season or two earlier (around the same age they do for tenured All Blacks) because he has offered buckleys for anyone other than the journalists this cycle.
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@sparky said in Exodus 2019:
Kobe is where Wayne Smith and Dan Carter are. Given how much the Black Jersey means to those two gentlemen, I doubt they'd let Brodie return to NZ broken and fat.
Huh? All I did was mention he's going to Japan.
@Bones said in Exodus 2019:
@sparky said in Exodus 2019:
Kobe is where Wayne Smith and Dan Carter are. Given how much the Black Jersey means to those two gentlemen, I doubt they'd let Brodie return to NZ broken and fat.
Huh? All I did was mention he's going to Japan.
IT WAS IMPLIED YOU FATIST!!!!!
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@Nepia said in Exodus 2019:
@taniwharugby 8 years in the ABs is nothing to be sneezed at.
A single cap off the bench in the 78th minute in black is nothing to sneeze at.
For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much. When all of that is stripped away he has had the Super/Test career of Liam Messam, with a good offload in a RWC final and the record for most cards in AB history.
It's a pity that his code-and-continent-hopping tendencies didn't kick in a season or two earlier (around the same age they do for tenured All Blacks) because he has offered buckleys for anyone other than the journalists this cycle.
@rotated said in Exodus 2019:
For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much.
When he first made the ABs he had the best partnership we've ever had (sorry Frank and Walter) ahead of him and since they've been gone he's started every test he hasn't been injured for.
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@rotated said in Exodus 2019:
For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much.
When he first made the ABs he had the best partnership we've ever had (sorry Frank and Walter) ahead of him and since they've been gone he's started every test he hasn't been injured for.
@Nepia said in Exodus 2019:
@rotated said in Exodus 2019:
For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much.
When he first made the ABs he had the best partnership we've ever had (sorry Frank and Walter) since they've been gone he's started every test he hasn't been injured for.
Conrad Smith and Nonu?
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@Nepia said in Exodus 2019:
@rotated said in Exodus 2019:
For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much.
When he first made the ABs he had the best partnership we've ever had (sorry Frank and Walter) since they've been gone he's started every test he hasn't been injured for.
Conrad Smith and Nonu?
@Hooroo said in Exodus 2019:
@Nepia said in Exodus 2019:
@rotated said in Exodus 2019:
For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much.
When he first made the ABs he had the best partnership we've ever had (sorry Frank and Walter) since they've been gone he's started every test he hasn't been injured for.
Conrad Smith and Nonu?
I missed out 'ahead of him'. Fixed it now with an edit.
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@Nepia said in Exodus 2019:
@rotated said in Exodus 2019:
For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much.
When he first made the ABs he had the best partnership we've ever had (sorry Frank and Walter) since they've been gone he's started every test he hasn't been injured for.
Conrad Smith and Nonu?
@Hooroo said in Exodus 2019:
@Nepia said in Exodus 2019:
@rotated said in Exodus 2019:
For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much.
When he first made the ABs he had the best partnership we've ever had (sorry Frank and Walter) since they've been gone he's started every test he hasn't been injured for.
Conrad Smith and Nonu?
no you dick, Maherhoffler and Clarke
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@Hooroo said in Exodus 2019:
@Nepia said in Exodus 2019:
@rotated said in Exodus 2019:
For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much.
When he first made the ABs he had the best partnership we've ever had (sorry Frank and Walter) since they've been gone he's started every test he hasn't been injured for.
Conrad Smith and Nonu?
no you dick, Maherhoffler and Clarke
@mariner4life said in Exodus 2019:
@Hooroo said in Exodus 2019:
@Nepia said in Exodus 2019:
@rotated said in Exodus 2019:
For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much.
When he first made the ABs he had the best partnership we've ever had (sorry Frank and Walter) since they've been gone he's started every test he hasn't been injured for.
Conrad Smith and Nonu?
no you dick, Maherhoffler and Clarke
Oi Peanus!!! His post read before he made the edit that SBW made the best centre pairing when he came into the ab's. I was merely pointing out that actually Nonu and Smith were the best.
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@rotated said in Exodus 2019:
For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much.
When he first made the ABs he had the best partnership we've ever had (sorry Frank and Walter) ahead of him and since they've been gone he's started every test he hasn't been injured for.
@Nepia said in Exodus 2019:
@rotated said in Exodus 2019:
For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much.
When he first made the ABs he had the best partnership we've ever had (sorry Frank and Walter) ahead of him and since they've been gone he's started every test he hasn't been injured for.
Barrett was stuck behind Carter too wasn't he?
The reason why SBW's AB legacy isn't more impressive isn't because of his post 2015 efforts. It's because he faffed around with Toulon, NRL and Japan in 2010, 2012 and 2014 playing 4, 5 and 4 tests respectively. Nonu and Smith gave plenty of opportunities during 2012-15 both taking sabbaticals and having injuries.
His only full seasons were 2011 and 2015 which are padded with C-tier nations in pool play, RWC warm games and the most forgettable TRC fixtures of the cycle... and 2017 which was hardly a career year.
If it weren't for the 2017 Lions Series the history of the All Blacks could comfortably be written without a mention of SBW.
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@Nepia said in Exodus 2019:
@rotated said in Exodus 2019:
For a guy who wasn't able to hold down a starting spot in the test team the column inches and media circus got a bit much.
When he first made the ABs he had the best partnership we've ever had (sorry Frank and Walter) ahead of him and since they've been gone he's started every test he hasn't been injured for.
Barrett was stuck behind Carter too wasn't he?
The reason why SBW's AB legacy isn't more impressive isn't because of his post 2015 efforts. It's because he faffed around with Toulon, NRL and Japan in 2010, 2012 and 2014 playing 4, 5 and 4 tests respectively. Nonu and Smith gave plenty of opportunities during 2012-15 both taking sabbaticals and having injuries.
His only full seasons were 2011 and 2015 which are padded with C-tier nations in pool play, RWC warm games and the most forgettable TRC fixtures of the cycle... and 2017 which was hardly a career year.
If it weren't for the 2017 Lions Series the history of the All Blacks could comfortably be written without a mention of SBW.
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Best three games I can remember SBW having in Black were the 2010 game Vs Scotland, the 2012 Ireland game in Hamilton and then 2015 RWC final off the bench. He was outstanding on all three occasions.
Why did he not hit those heights more often? Why was he still picked so much in 2017 and 2018 when his level of performance had dropped off so much? Why have the All Blacks coaching set team tolerated the circus around SBW when most players are given much less leeway?
