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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
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    #66

    <p>Yeah, I saw that. It wasn't related to my issues. I'm usually up around 88-93Mb-ish. This is my last day of work before going on holiday, so if it's still like that when I get back I'll go down that support rabbit hole again.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Their support is 1 million times better than Vodafone's though. Had to call them twice about the last house, and was on hold for 90mins and 80mins. I even complained on Faceboook (had nothing else to do...)</p>

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    #67

    <p>Oh, and I did get help from geekzone, but he didn't (as far as I know) pull any strings. He confirmed that the helpdesk had followed all the right diagnostic/resolution steps.</p>

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  • NTAN Offline
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    #68

    <p>With the fibre connections is there any limit on aggregation like with Coax/cable? Once you have a certain number of connections on the same exchange, and they're piping out from there, does it affect speed?</p>

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
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    #69

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Kirwan" data-cid="465860" data-time="1418936595">
    <div>
    <p>Oh, and I did get help from geekzone, but he didn't (as far as I know) pull any strings. He confirmed that the helpdesk had followed all the right diagnostic/resolution steps.</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Geekzone is a fairly well respected forum in the industry though. Very knowledgeable folk and well moderated. You will probably have noticed that many of the techies that post there are happy to be open (with employer consent) about where they work and will often try and directly help.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=135&topicid=136800'>http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=135&topicid=136800</a></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Nick, this is probably a good thread for you to read Starts with a clear explanation from Chorus on speeds attained etc. As far as I know, the shear capacity from the Cabinets minimises the effect you are talking about. Fibre doesn't have the same distance issues as copper. Light continues at the speed of light etc. Aggregation issues with copper are more to do with the amount a cabinet can process from light to electric. If the network is all copper then the problems are simply signal strength.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>There will be aggregation slowdowns at fibre cabs I guess but with no conversion necessary you are simply talking about how much light a mirror can handle.</p>

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    #70

    <p>and a good explanation of how GPON works (Passive Optical Network). Use the tabs on the page for the full story</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www3.alcatel-lucent.com/technology/gpon/#tabAnchor3'>http://www3.alcatel-lucent.com/technology/gpon/#tabAnchor3</a></p>

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  • KirwanK Offline
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    Kirwan
    wrote on last edited by
    #71

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="465865" data-time="1418940304">
    <div>
    <p>Geekzone is a fairly well respected forum in the industry though. Very knowledgeable folk and well moderated. You will probably have noticed that many of the techies that post there are happy to be open (with employer consent) about where they work and will often try and directly help.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=135&topicid=136800'>http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=135&topicid=136800</a></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Nick, this is probably a good thread for you to read Starts with a clear explanation from Chorus on speeds attained etc. As far as I know, the shear capacity from the Cabinets minimises the effect you are talking about. Fibre doesn't have the same distance issues as copper. Light continues at the speed of light etc. Aggregation issues with copper are more to do with the amount a cabinet can process from light to electric. If the network is all copper then the problems are simply signal strength.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>There will be aggregation slowdowns at fibre cabs I guess but with no conversion necessary you are simply talking about how much light a mirror can handle.</p>
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    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Yep, it's an incredibly useful resource. The guy that replied to me was an Orcon employee, which is great as the helpdesk is offshore, and as nice as they are having local help has benefits.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Fixed an issue getting onto my VPN for work from past threads on there, an issue I'd never have solved on my own.</p>

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  • NTAN Offline
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    NTA
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    #72

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="465865" data-time="1418940304">
    <div>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=135&topicid=136800'>http://www.geekzone.co.nz/forums.asp?forumid=135&topicid=136800</a></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Nick, this is probably a good thread for you to read Starts with a clear explanation from Chorus on speeds attained etc. As far as I know, the shear capacity from the Cabinets minimises the effect you are talking about. Fibre doesn't have the same distance issues as copper. Light continues at the speed of light etc. Aggregation issues with copper are more to do with the amount a cabinet can process from light to electric. If the network is all copper then the problems are simply signal strength.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>There will be aggregation slowdowns at fibre cabs I guess but with no conversion necessary you are simply talking about how much light a mirror can handle.</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Figures.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Here with the new estates that are getting hooked up on fibre, they actually have bans on roof-mounted TV aerials because everything is delivered through glass - phone, TV, fax, internet of course.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Even though we're talking light, there are still hardware junctions along the way that need to process it, and they still have to route and manage requests through even if it is as really high speeds. Its not a single strand of glass connecting me all the way to my ISP after all.</p>

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
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    #73

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="NTA" data-cid="465883" data-time="1418950723"><p>Figures.<br><br>
    Here with the new estates that are getting hooked up on fibre, they actually have bans on roof-mounted TV aerials because everything is delivered through glass - phone, TV, fax, internet of course.<br><br>
    Even though we're talking light, there are still hardware junctions along the way that need to process it, and they still have to route and manage requests through even if it is as really high speeds. Its not a single strand of glass connecting me all the way to my ISP after all.</p></blockquote>
    That geekzone link explains the expected losses from the theoretical speed. <br>
    I find it really funny though that you are concerned about possible losses of a magnitude that pales into insignificance when compared to your current service

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  • JCJ Offline
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    JC
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    #74

    <p>How about this then. Broadband, apparently:</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4002406137"><img src="http://www.speedtest.net/result/4002406137.png" alt="4002406137.png"></a></p>

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  • NTAN Offline
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    NTA
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    #75

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Crucial" data-cid="466011" data-time="1419102327">
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    <p>That geekzone link explains the expected losses from the theoretical speed.<br>
    I find it really funny though that you are concerned about possible losses of a magnitude that pales into insignificance when compared to your current service</p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>I'm a dreamer.</p>

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    #76

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JC" data-cid="466098" data-time="1419203133">
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    <p>How about this then. Broadband, apparently:</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4002406137"><img src="http://www.speedtest.net/result/4002406137.png" alt="4002406137.png"></a></p>
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    </blockquote>
    <p>Whereabouts are you JC? Somewhere up the Napier-Taupo road? That's crazy slow.</p>

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  • antipodeanA Offline
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    antipodean
    wrote on last edited by
    #77

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JC" data-cid="466098" data-time="1419203133">
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    <p>How about this then. Broadband, apparently:</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a class="bbc_url" href="http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/4002406137"><img src="http://www.speedtest.net/result/4002406137.png" alt="4002406137.png"></a></p>
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    <p> </p>
    <p>That's unreasonable. It should rate worse than F surely?</p>

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  • JCJ Offline
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    JC
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    #78

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Nepia" data-cid="466154" data-time="1419235918">
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    <p>Whereabouts are you JC? Somewhere up the Napier-Taupo road? That's crazy slow.</p>
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    </blockquote>
    <p>No, Taradale! It's not exactly the sticks is it?</p>

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  • TimT Away
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    Tim
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    #79

    <p><img src="http://i.imgur.com/riAEHlU.png" alt="riAEHlU.png"></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>In theory I have a gigabit connection, but it's limited by the building's interal 100mbit network.</p>

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  • NTAN Offline
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    NTA
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    #80

    <p>Oh you poor thing...</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><img src="http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/finger.gif" alt="finger.gif"></p>

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  • NepiaN Offline
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    Nepia
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    #81

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JC" data-cid="466160" data-time="1419242230">
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    <p>No, Taradale! It's not exactly the sticks is it?</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>Taradale! WTF! Up on a hill? Top of Churchill Drive maybe? :(</p>

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  • JCJ Offline
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    #82

    <p>You'd think so wouldn't you? But nope. Guppy Road.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.google.co.nz/maps/@-39.5364687,176.8590208,3a,75y,105.75h,74.07t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1srE4lBBnLWxu4b-kFeG4frA!2e0!6m1!1e1'>https://www.google.co.nz/maps/@-39.5364687,176.8590208,3a,75y,105.75h,74.07t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1srE4lBBnLWxu4b-kFeG4frA!2e0!6m1!1e1</a></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I guess the internet connection is the same one the house had when it was built 100 years ago. The modem is made of cast iron and lead, and it only works properly once the steam builds up to a decent working pressure.</p>

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    Chris B.
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    #83

    <p>Mine's equally shit, JC - though I do live a bit in the sticks.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>But, well inside a 2 mile radius of where Lord Rutherford was born. As a proven repository of geniuses (genii to us) we should be given the very best stuff first on principle - ahead of all you other thick fucks!  :)</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>Merry Christmas!</p>

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  • CrucialC Offline
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    Crucial
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    #84

    <blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="JC" data-cid="466212" data-time="1419300783">
    <div>
    <p>You'd think so wouldn't you? But nope. Guppy Road.</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p><a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://www.google.co.nz/maps/@-39.5364687,176.8590208,3a,75y,105.75h,74.07t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1srE4lBBnLWxu4b-kFeG4frA!2e0!6m1!1e1'>https://www.google.co.nz/maps/@-39.5364687,176.8590208,3a,75y,105.75h,74.07t/data=!3m4!1e1!3m2!1srE4lBBnLWxu4b-kFeG4frA!2e0!6m1!1e1</a></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>I guess the internet connection is the same one the house had when it was built 100 years ago. The modem is made of cast iron and lead, and it only works properly once the steam builds up to a decent working pressure.</p>
    </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p> </p>
    <p>The problem is almost certainly in the house. Checked the network maps and all of Guppy Rd is ADSL2+ with the very southern end VDSL capable. Either your wiring, your modem/ router or computer are screwed. Probably your internal wiring.</p>

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    #85

    <p><img src="http://www.speedtest.net/result/4039291759.png" alt="4039291759.png"></p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>And that's an upgrade for us! just got on to an unlimited VDSL plan which somehow works out cheaper than our previous 250gb standard broadband plan. We can't get UFBB in our area... if only Porirua had won Gigatown!</p>
    <p> </p>
    <p>We were on 5-7 down and .7 up which started to fall over with the number of devices etc in the house now.</p>

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