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Chiefs 2019

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  • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

    Bad News:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/111158322/chiefs-coach-colin-cooper-not-going-anywhere-as-teams-super-rugby-slide-continues

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    @Donsteppa Booooooooooooooooooooo Get him off the stage!! Booooooooooooooooooooooooo

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      I feel your frustration, he was Canes coach for far too long and always looked like a deer in headlights - similar to how the Chiefs are playing atm.

      He really needs to find his inner "Scott Robertson" and find a way to re-energise his team, otherwise, we may see him being cut before the season is out.

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        FROM THE ARTICLE:

        With that, the Chiefs have now coughed up a whopping 23 tries (six more than anyone else) and 171 points (48 more than anyone else) this season, which puts the blowtorch on defence coach Neil Barnes, following a change in coaching structure at the club for this year.

        With Cooper this year in a more overseeing-type role, Barnes' previous job as forwards coach is now handled by Nick White - who replaced Carl Hoeft as scrum coach midway through last season. Tabai Matson is the attack coach, Roger Randle has this year been brought in as an assistant backs coach, and Andrew Strawbridge remains a skills coach.

        Of those, White is probably the only one who shouldn't be worried about their job: Barnes is clearly not up to standard, Matson should be living on borrowed time, and what the fuck is Strawbridge spending his time doing? It's clearly not working. Plus, of course Cooper, who oversees this mess.

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          Just in defense of Strawbridge, he's been there for a couple of years, and over the past couple i would have said the Chiefs were the most skilled team in NZ. Some of their catching and passing was superb.

          This is just another area the 2019 team has dropped waaaay behind

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            Just in defense of Strawbridge, he's been there for a couple of years, and over the past couple i would have said the Chiefs were the most skilled team in NZ. Some of their catching and passing was superb.

            This is just another area the 2019 team has dropped waaaay behind

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            @mariner4life I think it has a lot to do with lack of confidence. At some stage during their last game, several Chiefs players looked like they were panicking. Mental skills probably a worse problem than other skills.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              I feel your frustration, he was Canes coach for far too long and always looked like a deer in headlights - similar to how the Chiefs are playing atm.

              He really needs to find his inner "Scott Robertson" and find a way to re-energise his team, otherwise, we may see him being cut before the season is out.

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              @Canes4life said in Chiefs 2019:

              I feel your frustration, he was Canes coach for far too long and always looked like a deer in headlights - similar to how the Chiefs are playing atm.

              He really needs to find his inner "Scott Robertson" and find a way to re-energise his team, otherwise, we may see him being cut before the season is out.

              I actually think Cooper was very good in the early part of his Canes stint, he was hamstrung at 10 but that team was really good with that limitation noted and they were competitive with the Crusaders in an era where they were totally dominant (much like they are this year). He stayed on too long at the Canes though.

              I was actually fairly happy with his 2017 with the Chiefs, they played good rugby and made it to the finals with a horrendous injury toll. So a drop off of this much was unexpected despite what I considered a poor selection when the teams were named last year.

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                New Zealand's famed coaching tree is providing more fruit to export markets than it is for the domestic consumer. I spent the weekend in Taranaki and there were some fairly loud rumblings that at least two of the Chiefs' coaching panel do not see eye-to-eye.

                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12211560

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                • TimT Tim

                  New Zealand's famed coaching tree is providing more fruit to export markets than it is for the domestic consumer. I spent the weekend in Taranaki and there were some fairly loud rumblings that at least two of the Chiefs' coaching panel do not see eye-to-eye.

                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12211560

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                  @Tim all I hear is Aucklanders doing the Muttley laugh when whenever I see Chiefs mentioned

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                  • HoorooH Hooroo

                    @Tim all I hear is Aucklanders doing the Muttley laugh when whenever I see Chiefs mentioned

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                    @Hooroo said in Chiefs 2019:

                    @Tim all I hear is Aucklanders doing the Muttley laugh when whenever I see Chiefs mentioned

                    That's the biggest indictment of Colin Cooper and friends.

                    The Blues are playing yet another season like they've all had to be kicked off the Playstation to be there, but they'll still be a comfortable fourth in the NZ conference.

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                    • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                      @Hooroo said in Chiefs 2019:

                      @Tim all I hear is Aucklanders doing the Muttley laugh when whenever I see Chiefs mentioned

                      That's the biggest indictment of Colin Cooper and friends.

                      The Blues are playing yet another season like they've all had to be kicked off the Playstation to be there, but they'll still be a comfortable fourth in the NZ conference.

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                      @Donsteppa said in Chiefs 2019:

                      @Hooroo said in Chiefs 2019:

                      @Tim all I hear is Aucklanders doing the Muttley laugh when whenever I see Chiefs mentioned

                      The Blues are playing yet another season like they've all had to be kicked off the Playstation to be there, but they'll still be a comfortable fourth in the NZ conference.

                      If Harry Plummer had kicked that first round penalty, the fans would be planning the pictures on the jumbo jet and the ticker tape parade. 🙂

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                      • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                        @Hooroo said in Chiefs 2019:

                        @Tim all I hear is Aucklanders doing the Muttley laugh when whenever I see Chiefs mentioned

                        That's the biggest indictment of Colin Cooper and friends.

                        The Blues are playing yet another season like they've all had to be kicked off the Playstation to be there, but they'll still be a comfortable fourth in the NZ conference.

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                        @Donsteppa said in Chiefs 2019:

                        The Blues are playing yet another season like they've all had to be kicked off the Playstation to be there, but they'll still be a comfortable fourth in the NZ conference.

                        Hey, if we play well it could be third!

                        nah, you're right. Fourth, and we'll be not too disappointed with it 🙂

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          @mariner4life I think it has a lot to do with lack of confidence. At some stage during their last game, several Chiefs players looked like they were panicking. Mental skills probably a worse problem than other skills.

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                          @Stargazer said in Chiefs 2019:

                          @mariner4life I think it has a lot to do with lack of confidence. At some stage during their last game, several Chiefs players looked like they were panicking. Mental skills probably a worse problem than other skills.

                          So how do we fix this? Hire Gilbert Enoka? Something needs to be done and bloody quick

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                            Saw on his instagram that Sean Wainui has a broken nose.

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                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12211995

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                                https://twitter.com/NigelYalden/status/1105962533234499584

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                                  https://twitter.com/NigelYalden/status/1105962533234499584

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                                  @Stargazer said in Chiefs 2019:

                                  https://twitter.com/NigelYalden/status/1105962533234499584

                                  Booooo! Wrap him in cotton wool until All Blacks tests start!

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                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/111276708/chiefs-captain-brodie-retallick-gets-green-light-to-break-super-rugbys-all-blacks-rest-rule

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                                      Good to see common sense being applied.

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        Good to see common sense being applied.

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                                        @KiwiMurph said in Chiefs 2019:

                                        Good to see common sense being applied.

                                        We don't want that - the Chiefs will break him. :angry_face:

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                                          Interesting discussion of the Chiefs woes on the Shortball podcast today. Apparently (new defence coach) Neil Barnes came up with a new defensive system, and trained the players with it. When the AB's returned it was found that "it would take too long to get them up to speed with it", so it was abandoned. Hence their defence is truly shit.

                                          Problems with returning ABs not getting with the program are vintage Blues stuff. This also goes along with the rumours of senior players and coaches not seeing eye-to-eye. Perhaps it is a player attitude problem?

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