6 Nations 2019
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@Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:
@MiketheSnow I did hear that the 3 points bonus for winning the Grand Slam was an afterthought after someone clever had pointed out that it would be possible to take the GC and still not win the Championship.
Wouldn't surprise me.
Either way, the correct decision.
So Wales 'JUST' need to win on Saturday.
Expect a monumental defensive effort.
@MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:
@Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:
@MiketheSnow I did hear that the 3 points bonus for winning the Grand Slam was an afterthought after someone clever had pointed out that it would be possible to take the GC and still not win the Championship.
Wouldn't surprise me.
Either way, the correct decision.
So Wales 'JUST' need to win on Saturday.
Expect a monumental defensive effort.
Absolutely the correct decision. To win the GS and still lose would be ridiculous.
I think the game will go one of two ways, either a reasonably comfortable win for Ireland or a bloody hard fought game that could go either way. I'd like to wish your boys well but, well, you know.
BTW, had a great day out in Cardiff for the England match (barring the result).
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@Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:
@Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:
Bonus point win. That’ll do me.
The bonus point system has been a real positive for the 6N's.
Looking forward to the Taffs v Oirish fandango on Saturday. Think the Jocks might struggle away at Twickenham.
Smarter people than me have worked the Bonus Point system out.
England beat Scotland with a bonus point (5pts) and they finish on 20pts
Wales beat Ireland with no bonus point (4pts) and they also finish on 20pts
With England's superior points difference then England take the title.
But wait, Grand Slam winners get a 3pt bonus
So Wales end up with 23pts, the Grand Slam and the 6N Championship.
And all is right in the world.
Easy
@MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:
Smarter people than me have worked the Bonus Point system out.
Give their names to Theresa May...
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@Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:
@MiketheSnow I did hear that the 3 points bonus for winning the Grand Slam was an afterthought after someone clever had pointed out that it would be possible to take the GC and still not win the Championship.
Wouldn't surprise me.
Either way, the correct decision.
So Wales 'JUST' need to win on Saturday.
Expect a monumental defensive effort.
I can't make out if Ireland have been figured out or just haven't clicked this year.
Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?
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I can't make out if Ireland have been figured out or just haven't clicked this year.
Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?
@Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:
I can't make out if Ireland have been figured out or just haven't clicked this year.
Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?
Bit of A and bit of B I think.
Which has been the story for Ireland, England and Scotland.
Wales has been consistent in producing a very average 40 mins and a decent 40 mins in each match. Plus consistently good defence at the business end of the match.
I don't expect Wales to play any differently and neither does Ireland.
Cato has it right, Irish walkover or arm wrestle to the death.
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Roofgate popped up in the news.
Last outing Ireland gave the choice to Wales and then accused them of watering the pitch to paddy status. Thought that would have been advantage Ireland actually.
Wales had asked 6N committee to intervene and rule on closing the roof - shit weather, I mean really shit weather forecast.
Schmidt keeping us guessing.
It's about time the rules were changed.
We took steps to mitigate against the weather, built it, and should be able to call the shots.
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@Victor-Meldrew comes with the territory of being a 'top' team.
For decades teams have looked at the ABs style of play, to try and replicate or absorb into thier play.
I expect Ireland have had thier game plans under a microscope even more since rolling the ABs, which would have been good on both counts in seeing the structures used to beat the ABs but also will have highlighted thier own limitations, and I think that is the thing, they play a fairly simple game, but you push them on that, thier systems dont seem to work as well...#noplanb
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Roofgate popped up in the news.
Last outing Ireland gave the choice to Wales and then accused them of watering the pitch to paddy status. Thought that would have been advantage Ireland actually.
Wales had asked 6N committee to intervene and rule on closing the roof - shit weather, I mean really shit weather forecast.
Schmidt keeping us guessing.
It's about time the rules were changed.
We took steps to mitigate against the weather, built it, and should be able to call the shots.
@MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:
We took steps to mitigate against the weather, built it, and should be able to call the shots.
Agreed - it's your stadium.
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Wales v Ireland is going to be 1915-esque trench warfare. Irish one-off runners smacking in to committed Welsh tacklers. Over and over and over again. The only difference is they didn't really need to worry about air raids in 1915.
So the plan is either box kick, or 45 short phases. It will be epic. Navidi and Tipuric will barely be able to stand on Monday.
Just on the other thing, the "# BPs for a GS" thing is such a cop-out. If a team is good enough to win 4 games and also get 5 bonus points, then they have at least some claim to a title if the other side can't even muster a solitary bonus point in 5 games. Should have just made the tie-breaker the head-to-head result.
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Wales v Ireland is going to be 1915-esque trench warfare. Irish one-off runners smacking in to committed Welsh tacklers. Over and over and over again. The only difference is they didn't really need to worry about air raids in 1915.
So the plan is either box kick, or 45 short phases. It will be epic. Navidi and Tipuric will barely be able to stand on Monday.
Just on the other thing, the "# BPs for a GS" thing is such a cop-out. If a team is good enough to win 4 games and also get 5 bonus points, then they have at least some claim to a title if the other side can't even muster a solitary bonus point in 5 games. Should have just made the tie-breaker the head-to-head result.
@mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:
The only difference is they didn't really need to worry about air raids in 2015.
So the plan is either box kick,there will be air raids of a sort...
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@mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:
The only difference is they didn't really need to worry about air raids in 2015.
So the plan is either box kick,there will be air raids of a sort...
@taniwharugby said in 6 Nations 2019:
@mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:
The only difference is they didn't really need to worry about air raids in 2015.
So the plan is either box kick,there will be air raids of a sort...
fuck, no air raids in 1915.
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Wales v Ireland is going to be 1915-esque trench warfare. Irish one-off runners smacking in to committed Welsh tacklers. Over and over and over again. The only difference is they didn't really need to worry about air raids in 1915.
So the plan is either box kick, or 45 short phases. It will be epic. Navidi and Tipuric will barely be able to stand on Monday.
Just on the other thing, the "# BPs for a GS" thing is such a cop-out. If a team is good enough to win 4 games and also get 5 bonus points, then they have at least some claim to a title if the other side can't even muster a solitary bonus point in 5 games. Should have just made the tie-breaker the head-to-head result.
@mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:
Wales v Ireland is going to be 1915-esque trench warfare.
Just on the other thing, the "# BPs for a GS" thing is such a cop-out. If a team is good enough to win 4 games and also get 5 bonus points, then they have at least some claim to a title if the other side can't even muster a solitary bonus point in 5 games. Should have just made the tie-breaker the head-to-head result.
Note first air raid was in 1915, first airborne attack 1911
Which is the same as giving 3 points to slam winner, as by definition the slam winner will have win the head to head.
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Wales v Ireland is going to be 1915-esque trench warfare. Irish one-off runners smacking in to committed Welsh tacklers. Over and over and over again. The only difference is they didn't really need to worry about air raids in 1915.
So the plan is either box kick, or 45 short phases. It will be epic. Navidi and Tipuric will barely be able to stand on Monday.
Just on the other thing, the "# BPs for a GS" thing is such a cop-out. If a team is good enough to win 4 games and also get 5 bonus points, then they have at least some claim to a title if the other side can't even muster a solitary bonus point in 5 games. Should have just made the tie-breaker the head-to-head result.
@mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:
Wales v Ireland is going to be 1915-esque trench warfare. Irish one-off runners smacking in to committed Welsh tacklers. Over and over and over again. The only difference is they didn't really need to worry about air raids in 1915.
So the plan is either box kick, or 45 short phases. It will be epic. Navidi and Tipuric will barely be able to stand on Monday.
Just on the other thing, the "# BPs for a GS" thing is such a cop-out. If a team is good enough to win 4 games and also get 5 bonus points, then they have at least some claim to a title if the other side can't even muster a solitary bonus point in 5 games. Should have just made the tie-breaker the head-to-head result.
Unbeaten always sits better than rolling over weak teams IMHO
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I can't make out if Ireland have been figured out or just haven't clicked this year.
Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?
@Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:
Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?
Oh Schmidt you shit.
Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.
The roof stays open.
The Paddy Fields of Athenry.
Advantage Ireland.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:
Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?
Oh Schmidt you shit.
Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.
The roof stays open.
The Paddy Fields of Athenry.
Advantage Ireland.
@MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:
@Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:
Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?
Oh Schmidt you shit.
Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.
The roof stays open.
The Paddy Fields of Athenry.
Advantage Ireland.
What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.
Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.
PS It has rained prior to and during other 6N matches - Noah wasn’t required on those occasions either. It’s all gone a bit drama-queen for me.
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@MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:
@Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:
Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?
Oh Schmidt you shit.
Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.
The roof stays open.
The Paddy Fields of Athenry.
Advantage Ireland.
What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.
Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.
PS It has rained prior to and during other 6N matches - Noah wasn’t required on those occasions either. It’s all gone a bit drama-queen for me.
@Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:
@MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:
@Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:
Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?
Oh Schmidt you shit.
Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.
The roof stays open.
The Paddy Fields of Athenry.
Advantage Ireland.
What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.
Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.
I concur. The arrangement is that the visiting side gets to choose. That fact is known in advance so why bleat about it halfway through the competition? By all means agitate to get that arrangement changed but don't fucking whine about it.
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@Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:
@MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:
@Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:
Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?
Oh Schmidt you shit.
Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.
The roof stays open.
The Paddy Fields of Athenry.
Advantage Ireland.
What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.
Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.
I concur. The arrangement is that the visiting side gets to choose. That fact is known in advance so why bleat about it halfway through the competition? By all means agitate to get that arrangement changed but don't fucking whine about it.
@Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:
@Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:
@MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:
@Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:
Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?
Oh Schmidt you shit.
Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.
The roof stays open.
The Paddy Fields of Athenry.
Advantage Ireland.
What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.
Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.
I concur. The arrangement is that the visiting side gets to choose. That fact is known in advance so why bleat about it halfway through the competition? By all means agitate to get that arrangement changed but don't fucking whine about it.
Yep. And the arrangement is that the two sides have to agree that it should be closed. Some years ago, IIRC, Fiji asked for it to be closed, Wales said no.
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@Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:
@Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:
@MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:
@Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:
Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?
Oh Schmidt you shit.
Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.
The roof stays open.
The Paddy Fields of Athenry.
Advantage Ireland.
What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.
Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.
I concur. The arrangement is that the visiting side gets to choose. That fact is known in advance so why bleat about it halfway through the competition? By all means agitate to get that arrangement changed but don't fucking whine about it.
Yep. And the arrangement is that the two sides have to agree that it should be closed. Some years ago, IIRC, Fiji asked for it to be closed, Wales said no.
@Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:
@Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:
@Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:
@MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:
@Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:
Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?
Oh Schmidt you shit.
Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.
The roof stays open.
The Paddy Fields of Athenry.
Advantage Ireland.
What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.
Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.
I concur. The arrangement is that the visiting side gets to choose. That fact is known in advance so why bleat about it halfway through the competition? By all means agitate to get that arrangement changed but don't fucking whine about it.
Yep. And the arrangement is that the two sides have to agree that it should be closed. Some years ago, IIRC, Fiji asked for it to be closed, Wales said no.
Snigger (if true).
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I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.
