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6 Nations 2019

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  • D Derm McCrum

    @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

    @MiketheSnow

    Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?

    Oh Schmidt you shit.

    Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.

    The roof stays open.

    The Paddy Fields of Athenry.

    Advantage Ireland.

    What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.

    Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.

    PS It has rained prior to and during other 6N matches - Noah wasn’t required on those occasions either. It’s all gone a bit drama-queen for me.

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    Catogrande
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    @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

    @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

    @MiketheSnow

    Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?

    Oh Schmidt you shit.

    Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.

    The roof stays open.

    The Paddy Fields of Athenry.

    Advantage Ireland.

    What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.

    Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.

    I concur. The arrangement is that the visiting side gets to choose. That fact is known in advance so why bleat about it halfway through the competition? By all means agitate to get that arrangement changed but don't fucking whine about it.

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    • CatograndeC Catogrande

      @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

      @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

      @MiketheSnow

      Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?

      Oh Schmidt you shit.

      Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.

      The roof stays open.

      The Paddy Fields of Athenry.

      Advantage Ireland.

      What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.

      Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.

      I concur. The arrangement is that the visiting side gets to choose. That fact is known in advance so why bleat about it halfway through the competition? By all means agitate to get that arrangement changed but don't fucking whine about it.

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      @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

      @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

      @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

      @MiketheSnow

      Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?

      Oh Schmidt you shit.

      Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.

      The roof stays open.

      The Paddy Fields of Athenry.

      Advantage Ireland.

      What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.

      Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.

      I concur. The arrangement is that the visiting side gets to choose. That fact is known in advance so why bleat about it halfway through the competition? By all means agitate to get that arrangement changed but don't fucking whine about it.

      Yep. And the arrangement is that the two sides have to agree that it should be closed. Some years ago, IIRC, Fiji asked for it to be closed, Wales said no.

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      • D Derm McCrum

        @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

        @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

        @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

        @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

        @MiketheSnow

        Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?

        Oh Schmidt you shit.

        Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.

        The roof stays open.

        The Paddy Fields of Athenry.

        Advantage Ireland.

        What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.

        Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.

        I concur. The arrangement is that the visiting side gets to choose. That fact is known in advance so why bleat about it halfway through the competition? By all means agitate to get that arrangement changed but don't fucking whine about it.

        Yep. And the arrangement is that the two sides have to agree that it should be closed. Some years ago, IIRC, Fiji asked for it to be closed, Wales said no.

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        Catogrande
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        #604

        @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

        @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

        @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

        @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

        @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

        @MiketheSnow

        Do you think Gatland will use the same rope-a-dope tactics he used against England?

        Oh Schmidt you shit.

        Less rope-a-dope more bar of soap.

        The roof stays open.

        The Paddy Fields of Athenry.

        Advantage Ireland.

        What’s it got to do with Schmidt? If Wales asked the 6N Roof Committee torule on whether the roof should be open or closed then point the finger at TSNRC.

        Besides that, it’s funny how this roof malarkey only seems to come up before certain games with Gatland attempting to make an issue of it. If the WRU really do have a problem with it, then get it sorted outside the 6N so that everyone knows the policy in advance and there’s no whining about it during the comp - it just looks a bit sad.

        I concur. The arrangement is that the visiting side gets to choose. That fact is known in advance so why bleat about it halfway through the competition? By all means agitate to get that arrangement changed but don't fucking whine about it.

        Yep. And the arrangement is that the two sides have to agree that it should be closed. Some years ago, IIRC, Fiji asked for it to be closed, Wales said no.

        Snigger (if true).

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          Close it, weld it closed... oops - how did that happen?

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            I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

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              I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

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              MiketheSnow
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              @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

              I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

              Exactly.

              At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

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              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                Exactly.

                At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

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                @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                Exactly.

                At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

                That’s the same as just asking the away team what they want?

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                • MajorPomM MajorPom

                  @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                  Exactly.

                  At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

                  That’s the same as just asking the away team what they want?

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                  @MajorRage said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                  Exactly.

                  At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

                  That’s the same as just asking the away team what they want?

                  Yep.

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                    #610

                    I.... Think I'm supporting Wales

                    https://twitter.com/RHAGLENJONATHAN/status/1106668927835357184?s=19

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                    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                      @MajorRage said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                      Exactly.

                      At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

                      That’s the same as just asking the away team what they want?

                      Yep.

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                      Derm McCrum
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                      @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      @MajorRage said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                      I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                      Exactly.

                      At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

                      That’s the same as just asking the away team what they want?

                      Yep.

                      The default is open.
                      So if Ireland said they wanted it closed, and Wales said they wanted it open, what would happen?

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                      • D Derm McCrum

                        @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        @MajorRage said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                        Exactly.

                        At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

                        That’s the same as just asking the away team what they want?

                        Yep.

                        The default is open.
                        So if Ireland said they wanted it closed, and Wales said they wanted it open, what would happen?

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                        MiketheSnow
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                        @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        @MajorRage said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                        I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                        Exactly.

                        At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

                        That’s the same as just asking the away team what they want?

                        Yep.

                        The default is open.
                        So if Ireland said they wanted it closed, and Wales said they wanted it open, what would happen?

                        Closed.

                        Away team decides.

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                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                          @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                          Exactly.

                          At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

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                          @MiketheSnow simple solution, away team build thier own stadium with a retractable roof then decide themselves.

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                          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                            @MiketheSnow simple solution, away team build thier own stadium with a retractable roof then decide themselves.

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                            @taniwharugby said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            @MiketheSnow simple solution, away team build thier own stadium with a retractable roof then decide themselves.

                            Exactly.

                            And what I have been saying for years.

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                              Shouldn't the concept of home advantage put the decision with the home team? Isn't the width of the field (and depth of in goal) up to the home team (as long as they meet minimum standards)? These can be adjusted to the advantage of the home team so why not the roof as well?

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                              • NepiaN Nepia

                                Shouldn't the concept of home advantage put the decision with the home team? Isn't the width of the field (and depth of in goal) up to the home team (as long as they meet minimum standards)? These can be adjusted to the advantage of the home team so why not the roof as well?

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                                @Nepia yup 😂
                                9bbdb7f4-6c0c-457e-a487-64724bf6c6f3-image.jpeg https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img/dynamic/69/590x/England-rugby-home-ground-Twickenham-in-goal-area-933318.jpg

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                                • NepiaN Nepia

                                  Shouldn't the concept of home advantage put the decision with the home team? Isn't the width of the field (and depth of in goal) up to the home team (as long as they meet minimum standards)? These can be adjusted to the advantage of the home team so why not the roof as well?

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                                  @Nepia said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                  Shouldn't the concept of home advantage put the decision with the home team? Isn't the width of the field (and depth of in goal) up to the home team (as long as they meet minimum standards)? These can be adjusted to the advantage of the home team so why not the roof as well?

                                  Well if we win today then we can go to the 6 Nations table and say we've done as you asked but from here on in we're going to decide.

                                  So get fucked.

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                                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                    @Nepia said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                    Shouldn't the concept of home advantage put the decision with the home team? Isn't the width of the field (and depth of in goal) up to the home team (as long as they meet minimum standards)? These can be adjusted to the advantage of the home team so why not the roof as well?

                                    Well if we win today then we can go to the 6 Nations table and say we've done as you asked but from here on in we're going to decide.

                                    So get fucked.

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                                    @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                    @Nepia said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                    Shouldn't the concept of home advantage put the decision with the home team? Isn't the width of the field (and depth of in goal) up to the home team (as long as they meet minimum standards)? These can be adjusted to the advantage of the home team so why not the roof as well?

                                    Well if we win today then we can go to the 6 Nations table and say we've done as you asked but from here on in we're going to decide.

                                    So get fucked.

                                    And if you don't win...?

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                                    • NTAN NTA

                                      I.... Think I'm supporting Wales

                                      https://twitter.com/RHAGLENJONATHAN/status/1106668927835357184?s=19

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                                      @NTA said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                      I.... Think I'm supporting Wales

                                      https://twitter.com/RHAGLENJONATHAN/status/1106668927835357184?s=19

                                      On the left hand, so am I.. on the right. Not so much.

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                                      • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                        @NTA said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                        I.... Think I'm supporting Wales

                                        https://twitter.com/RHAGLENJONATHAN/status/1106668927835357184?s=19

                                        On the left hand, so am I.. on the right. Not so much.

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                                        @Catogrande bet it gets cold in the valleys

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                                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                                          @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @MajorRage said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                                          Exactly.

                                          At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

                                          That’s the same as just asking the away team what they want?

                                          Yep.

                                          The default is open.
                                          So if Ireland said they wanted it closed, and Wales said they wanted it open, what would happen?

                                          Closed.

                                          Away team decides.

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                                          Derm McCrum
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                                          @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @Derm-McCrum said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @MajorRage said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          I guess the roof problem is it was the a first for rugby, so there were lots of complaints about the advantage it could theoretically give? So WRU said visitor can choose to select criticism. But ffs we've moved on, WRU just need to say, from now on, or roof, we'll put it how we like it.

                                          Exactly.

                                          At present if both sides don't agree, then the away team has the final say.

                                          That’s the same as just asking the away team what they want?

                                          Yep.

                                          The default is open.
                                          So if Ireland said they wanted it closed, and Wales said they wanted it open, what would happen?

                                          Closed.

                                          Away team decides.

                                          Err nope. Both teams decide. Read the Six Nations policy on it.

                                          “*We run the competition by consensus.

                                          "What we are doing is staying with existing protocols, which basically say if both teams agree conditions demand they want to close the roof, or both teams want to close the roof anyway, that's fine.

                                          "But what we can't do is allow any one individual team an inherent or underlying advantage.

                                          "The other unions perceive it to be an advantage for Wales given they could play all their games under the roof given they understand the conditions.

                                          "These games are won on any tight margins anyway. It's a case of everyone wanting a level playing pitch."*

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