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6 Nations 2019

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  • sparkyS Offline
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    wrote on last edited by sparky
    #816

    @mariner4life

    Disagree profoundly, how much of the Wales games this year have you actually watched?

    Alyn Wyn Jones, Justin Tipuric, Josh Navidi, LiamWilliams and George North are all world class players and great to watch. Wales remind me a lot in style to the 2011 All Blacks.

    You don't win 14 Rugby internationals in a row without being a very good side indeed.

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    • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

      @booboo said in 6 Nations 2019:

      @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

      From the bottom

      ITALY
      Showed signs of promise and will be a pain in the arse for NZ and SA mid-week sides.

      SCOTLAND
      Showed moments of brilliance. With a full, fit squad who knows?
      Resoundingly beaten by Ireland in 6N and expect the same at RWC
      On a good day both Samoa and Japan could turn them over

      FRANCE
      Who the fuck knows?
      Murdered Wales in the first half, fell apart in the second.
      Thumped Scotland.
      Got bossed by England and Ireland.
      Will battle with Argentina for QF spot

      IRELAND
      Got worked out
      Had injuries
      Halfbacks need a rest and a rethink
      Should top their RWC group
      Can't see them defeating NZ

      ENGLAND
      Used to think it was frustrating being a Welsh fan
      The English fans must be thinking WTF
      Bossed Ireland and France and Italy
      Lost to Wales
      Could so easily have lost to Scotland which would have been the biggest shit the bed in rugby history
      Will top their group
      On their day can beat anybody

      WALES
      Belief and resiliance
      Not the prettiest rugby but oh so effective
      Got out of jail against Scotland
      Will go through to QF, who knows who will top the group
      Can beat anyone on their day with the exception of NZ
      Bridge too far

      Subtle little troll there Snowyboi ...

      Not at all

      Now if I'd added 'again' 😉

      Seriously it's NZ's to lose and I think only England, Australia and SA can beat them.

      Obviously they have to play out of their skins, score when the opportunities present themselves and don't kick shitly to NZ.

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      #817

      @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

      @booboo said in 6 Nations 2019:

      @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

      From the bottom

      ITALY
      Showed signs of promise and will be a pain in the arse for NZ and SA mid-week sides.

      SCOTLAND
      Showed moments of brilliance. With a full, fit squad who knows?
      Resoundingly beaten by Ireland in 6N and expect the same at RWC
      On a good day both Samoa and Japan could turn them over

      FRANCE
      Who the fuck knows?
      Murdered Wales in the first half, fell apart in the second.
      Thumped Scotland.
      Got bossed by England and Ireland.
      Will battle with Argentina for QF spot

      IRELAND
      Got worked out
      Had injuries
      Halfbacks need a rest and a rethink
      Should top their RWC group
      Can't see them defeating NZ

      ENGLAND
      Used to think it was frustrating being a Welsh fan
      The English fans must be thinking WTF
      Bossed Ireland and France and Italy
      Lost to Wales
      Could so easily have lost to Scotland which would have been the biggest shit the bed in rugby history
      Will top their group
      On their day can beat anybody

      WALES
      Belief and resiliance
      Not the prettiest rugby but oh so effective
      Got out of jail against Scotland
      Will go through to QF, who knows who will top the group
      Can beat anyone on their day with the exception of NZ
      Bridge too far

      Subtle little troll there Snowyboi ...

      Not at all

      Now if I'd added 'again' 😉

      Seriously it's NZ's to lose and I think only England, Australia and SA can beat them.

      Obviously they have to play out of their skins, score when the opportunities present themselves and don't kick shitly to NZ.

      I read it as Ireland losing to NZ on the QF, suggesting we lose to SA ...

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      • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

        @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

        @NTA
        May, Daley & Nowell are pretty good on attack but the first 2 can be v. flakey on defence. Pom midfield is, IMHO, shite.

        Watched it back and Nowell was a turnstile on 2 of the Scottish tries.

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        @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

        @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

        @NTA
        May, Daley & Nowell are pretty good on attack but the first 2 can be v. flakey on defence. Pom midfield is, IMHO, shite.

        Watched it back and Nowell was a turnstile on 2 of the Scottish tries.

        Going back to a point I made on social media somewhere: English backs are poor at defense because they don't do much except front-on tackling in their "Premiership" from what I've observed the last 2 months. It is dire.

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        • sparkyS sparky

          @mariner4life

          Disagree profoundly, how much of the Wales games this year have you actually watched?

          Alyn Wyn Jones, Justin Tipuric, Josh Navidi, LiamWilliams and George North are all world class players and great to watch. Wales remind me a lot in style to the 2011 All Blacks.

          You don't win 14 Rugby internationals in a row without being a very good side indeed.

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          #819

          @sparky said in 6 Nations 2019:

          @mariner4life

          Disagree profoundly, how much of the Wales games this year have you actually watched?

          Alyn Wyn Jones, Justin Tipuric, Josh Navidi, LiamWilliams and George North are all world class players and great to watch. Wales remind me a lot in style to the 2011 All Blacks.

          You don't win 14 Rugby internationals in a row without being a very good side indeed.

          yes, because what i clearly said was Wales are shit team with ordinary players.

          They play a very limited game plan, and they do it very well. Doesn't make for the most attractive of spectacles though (again, as per my previous post, i doubt the Welsh team or their supporters have any fucks to give about that).

          They scored 10 tries all tournament, which is not many when you get to play Scotland and Italy.

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          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

            @sparky said in 6 Nations 2019:

            @mariner4life

            Disagree profoundly, how much of the Wales games this year have you actually watched?

            Alyn Wyn Jones, Justin Tipuric, Josh Navidi, LiamWilliams and George North are all world class players and great to watch. Wales remind me a lot in style to the 2011 All Blacks.

            You don't win 14 Rugby internationals in a row without being a very good side indeed.

            yes, because what i clearly said was Wales are shit team with ordinary players.

            They play a very limited game plan, and they do it very well. Doesn't make for the most attractive of spectacles though (again, as per my previous post, i doubt the Welsh team or their supporters have any fucks to give about that).

            They scored 10 tries all tournament, which is not many when you get to play Scotland and Italy.

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            @mariner4life

            Wales scored three tries against England and Ireland, but the All Blacks scored only one try in those two games in November.

            They put out a reserve team against Italy.

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              • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

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                #822

                @MiketheSnow good little Grand Slam there Mike, solid levels of piss drinking going on?

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @MiketheSnow good little Grand Slam there Mike, solid levels of piss drinking going on?

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                  @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

                  @MiketheSnow good little Grand Slam there Mike, solid levels of piss drinking going on?

                  Cheers.

                  Several bottles of red were enjoyed 👍

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                  • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                    @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

                    @MiketheSnow good little Grand Slam there Mike, solid levels of piss drinking going on?

                    Cheers.

                    Several bottles of red were enjoyed 👍

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                    @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                    @mariner4life said in 6 Nations 2019:

                    @MiketheSnow good little Grand Slam there Mike, solid levels of piss drinking going on?

                    Cheers.

                    Several bottles of red were enjoyed 👍

                    excellent. very sophisticated.

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                    • MiketheSnowM Offline
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                      wrote on last edited by MiketheSnow
                      #825

                      Posted in another thread, but just in case

                      Sure you boys want Joe?

                      https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/joe-schmidt-blames-irelands-defeat-15990014?fbclid=IwAR3pFh616006txEcKyhlSIE127x8Le3jvDW8Ji2E2J6PTMXaSEbKCID-s2I

                      Schmidt claiming Gatland had an unfair advantage when an Irish website published the Irish team on Wednesday.

                      Once Liam Williams was declared fit Wales had an unchanged side, and even if Williams hadn't made it, it was a straight swap with Halfpenny.

                      So Schmidt had 14/15 of the side confirmed at the final whistle against Scotland a week in advance.

                      Then 15/15 of the starting 15 on Tuesday.

                      Take your medicine like Eddie did Joe.

                      You were outcoached.

                      And outplayed.

                      https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/2859/who-does-tsf-want-to-be-the-next-ab-coach/126

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                        #826

                        And now Neil is having a cry. Must have had Sexton in his ear

                        https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/irish-pundit-accuses-wales-illegal-15990042?fbclid=IwAR2_iTGf_p4YsKN2Iich0ud10pMQLfX8VQlGacxuy_JrJ55zVmGIwxZVtDk

                        Love this

                        He added: "Could Ireland beat Wales at the Aviva in two weeks' time with nothing to play for? Of course they would, but this rubber stamps the notion that international rugby is about doing it when it really matters."

                        Would not could. Rather confident that Neil.

                        And surely RWC tournaments are all "about doing it when it really matters."

                        What a buffoon.

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                        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                          And now Neil is having a cry. Must have had Sexton in his ear

                          https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/irish-pundit-accuses-wales-illegal-15990042?fbclid=IwAR2_iTGf_p4YsKN2Iich0ud10pMQLfX8VQlGacxuy_JrJ55zVmGIwxZVtDk

                          Love this

                          He added: "Could Ireland beat Wales at the Aviva in two weeks' time with nothing to play for? Of course they would, but this rubber stamps the notion that international rugby is about doing it when it really matters."

                          Would not could. Rather confident that Neil.

                          And surely RWC tournaments are all "about doing it when it really matters."

                          What a buffoon.

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                          @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                          From the article:

                          "Conventional wisdom told us that over the course of this championship Wales didn't create much, they didn't score many tries.

                          But they were difficult to break down and hard to score against and they were very comfortable in their own skin doing practically nothing. There was evidence of this as the final whistle blew. Wales had run 110 metres with the ball all day. "All they had to do was tackle and wait for the mistakes to come."

                          It's called having a successful game-plan, you wally.

                          Doubt if I've ever read a more stupid, idiotic moan about losing a game in decades. It even beats Stephen Jones quoting out-of-date rugby laws to prove England were cheated by the ref when losing to us in November

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                          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                            Posted in another thread, but just in case

                            Sure you boys want Joe?

                            https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/joe-schmidt-blames-irelands-defeat-15990014?fbclid=IwAR3pFh616006txEcKyhlSIE127x8Le3jvDW8Ji2E2J6PTMXaSEbKCID-s2I

                            Schmidt claiming Gatland had an unfair advantage when an Irish website published the Irish team on Wednesday.

                            Once Liam Williams was declared fit Wales had an unchanged side, and even if Williams hadn't made it, it was a straight swap with Halfpenny.

                            So Schmidt had 14/15 of the side confirmed at the final whistle against Scotland a week in advance.

                            Then 15/15 of the starting 15 on Tuesday.

                            Take your medicine like Eddie did Joe.

                            You were outcoached.

                            And outplayed.

                            https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/2859/who-does-tsf-want-to-be-the-next-ab-coach/126

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                            #828

                            @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                            Posted in another thread, but just in case

                            Sure you boys want Joe?

                            https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/joe-schmidt-blames-irelands-defeat-15990014?fbclid=IwAR3pFh616006txEcKyhlSIE127x8Le3jvDW8Ji2E2J6PTMXaSEbKCID-s2I

                            It's walesonline. You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

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                            • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                              @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

                              From the article:

                              "Conventional wisdom told us that over the course of this championship Wales didn't create much, they didn't score many tries.

                              But they were difficult to break down and hard to score against and they were very comfortable in their own skin doing practically nothing. There was evidence of this as the final whistle blew. Wales had run 110 metres with the ball all day. "All they had to do was tackle and wait for the mistakes to come."

                              It's called having a successful game-plan, you wally.

                              Doubt if I've ever read a more stupid, idiotic moan about losing a game in decades. It even beats Stephen Jones quoting out-of-date rugby laws to prove England were cheated by the ref when losing to us in November

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                              @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

                              Doubt if I've ever read a more stupid, idiotic moan about losing a game in decades. It even beats Stephen Jones quoting out-of-date rugby laws to prove England were cheated by the ref when losing to us in November

                              Not sure Ireland created much against us last November. They played the way Wales did - suffocating defence and forcing errors. Fair play to them - but you rely on a ref, and it's hard to chase a game that way.

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                                #830

                                Yeah it might be boring as fuck, but it can be effective. Neil is not wrong, Wales didn't create much all tournament. But neither did Italy, Ireland, France outside of one half, Scotland managed a few flashes, and England scored heaps & played some of the best rugby - shame for them that rugby is an eighty minute game & they have only one plan (also a common thread in this year's tournament).

                                The other story it's a total click bait headline, as Schmidt says it have an advantage, and it does. Only the all blacks don't give a fuck about that advantage and publish their team a day before anyone else. Not a bloody 25 point advantage tho!

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                                • nzzpN nzzp

                                  @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                  Doubt if I've ever read a more stupid, idiotic moan about losing a game in decades. It even beats Stephen Jones quoting out-of-date rugby laws to prove England were cheated by the ref when losing to us in November

                                  Not sure Ireland created much against us last November. They played the way Wales did - suffocating defence and forcing errors. Fair play to them - but you rely on a ref, and it's hard to chase a game that way.

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                                  @nzzp

                                  Ireland have been v.poor this 6Ns. Tactically inept against England and Wales

                                  Ireland relied on attacking the breakdown, suffocating D and their opponents mistakes. Wales mixed their tactics up and made it hard for their opponents to get into any rhythm - and Wales made bugger all mistakes.

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                                  • M Machpants

                                    Yeah it might be boring as fuck, but it can be effective. Neil is not wrong, Wales didn't create much all tournament. But neither did Italy, Ireland, France outside of one half, Scotland managed a few flashes, and England scored heaps & played some of the best rugby - shame for them that rugby is an eighty minute game & they have only one plan (also a common thread in this year's tournament).

                                    The other story it's a total click bait headline, as Schmidt says it have an advantage, and it does. Only the all blacks don't give a fuck about that advantage and publish their team a day before anyone else. Not a bloody 25 point advantage tho!

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                                    @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                    Wales didn't create much all tournament

                                    ..well, apart from 5 wins out of 5.

                                    It might not have been champagne rugby but their games against England and Ireland were bloody absorbing to watch,

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                                    • nzzpN nzzp

                                      @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                      Doubt if I've ever read a more stupid, idiotic moan about losing a game in decades. It even beats Stephen Jones quoting out-of-date rugby laws to prove England were cheated by the ref when losing to us in November

                                      Not sure Ireland created much against us last November. They played the way Wales did - suffocating defence and forcing errors. Fair play to them - but you rely on a ref, and it's hard to chase a game that way.

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                                      @nzzp said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                      Not sure Ireland created much against us last November. They played the way Wales did

                                      Yeah, and for much of that game, we played the same was as Ireland did on Saturday.

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                                        #834

                                        No one's saying it's not winning rugby, just that it is pretty unexciting rugby, Victor. The contest can be tense and exciting even if the rugby isn't. Two different things. I'd prefer tense and exciting contests of quality rugby, but it doesn't happen often!

                                        I don't agree with his conclusion but the stats he quotes tell a story
                                        https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/03/19/six-nations-a-personal-triumph-for-warren-gatland-but-not-wales/

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                                        • nzzpN nzzp

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          Doubt if I've ever read a more stupid, idiotic moan about losing a game in decades. It even beats Stephen Jones quoting out-of-date rugby laws to prove England were cheated by the ref when losing to us in November

                                          Not sure Ireland created much against us last November. They played the way Wales did - suffocating defence and forcing errors. Fair play to them - but you rely on a ref, and it's hard to chase a game that way.

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                                          @nzzp said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

                                          Doubt if I've ever read a more stupid, idiotic moan about losing a game in decades. It even beats Stephen Jones quoting out-of-date rugby laws to prove England were cheated by the ref when losing to us in November

                                          Not sure Ireland created much against us last November. They played the way Wales did - suffocating defence and forcing errors. Fair play to them - but you rely on a ref, and it's hard to chase a game that way.

                                          Did we create much against Ireland last November?
                                          Genuine question, need someone 20 years younger than me and with a better memory to answer, I can't recall. I don't really recall us bombing scoring opportunities all afternoon. I think we just got smashed (backwards).

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