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    reprobate
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    @Rapido no. we did what we frequently do when we get beaten. this usually happens when we play a team that wants the ball, plays simple and direct on attack, and has a rush defence: we allow them to retain the ball and build momentum, then when we finally do get the ball we try shitty short kicks that give the ball straight back.

    everyone says 'the opposition is up quick, put it in behind them'. bullshit. the grubber is not something you should do just because the opposition rushes, it is something you do because there is a gap. the potatoes have covered the damn gap, so don't kick the ball away dickheads.

    i am still cross about this.

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    @Catogrande said in 6 Nations 2019:

    @nzzp said in 6 Nations 2019:

    @Rapido said in 6 Nations 2019:

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    @Victor-Meldrew said in 6 Nations 2019:

    Doubt if I've ever read a more stupid, idiotic moan about losing a game in decades. It even beats Stephen Jones quoting out-of-date rugby laws to prove England were cheated by the ref when losing to us in November

    Not sure Ireland created much against us last November. They played the way Wales did - suffocating defence and forcing errors. Fair play to them - but you rely on a ref, and it's hard to chase a game that way.

    Did we create much against Ireland last November?
    Genuine question, need someone 20 years younger than me and with a better memory to answer, I can't recall. I don't really recall us bombing scoring opportunities all afternoon. I think we just got smashed (backwards).

    Yep, out-passioned to use an old John Hartism. We were never in that game, and played terribly. 9 points is a horrible outcome.

    We're going to see this in the RWC unless refs get more aggressive with the offside line. Modern defences are hard to unlock; I just hope we've got some tactics up our sleeve that are hard to negate in a few weeks.

    Yeah, I was trying to take more notice of the offside line in the final two 6N games and everyone was at it. It was policed very poorly in general. I’m not really in favour of interference by the TMO but maybe this is an area that it might be useful?

    It's a reality though, and expect rush defence and borderline offside to continue. NZ are currently pretty hopeless at dealing with it (from an attacking POV). It's a leveller, makes the world cup even more wide open (NZ probably on the decline anyway).

    Test rugby these days is reminding me more of old school tests. Hard to score tries.

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    @reprobate Except kicking the ball behind the rush can work very very well, see England vs Ireland. There is nothing wrong with that kicking strategy, you just have to be good at it. Our nines are not

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    @Rapido "hard to score tries" Scotland scored the most tries vs England at Twickers EVER on the weekend. 6 tries, was it? Only one team has done 5, I think I read, and only on 4 times have they given up 4!

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    @Machpants said in 6 Nations 2019:

    No one's saying it's not winning rugby, just that it is pretty unexciting rugby, Victor. The contest can be tense and exciting even if the rugby isn't. Two different things. I'd prefer tense and exciting contests of quality rugby, but it doesn't happen often!

    I don't agree with his conclusion but the stats he quotes tell a story
    https://www.theroar.com.au/2019/03/19/six-nations-a-personal-triumph-for-warren-gatland-but-not-wales/

    Either Wales' opponents are really fucking stupid or the majority of the penalties we kicked were sacrificed by the opposition in the knowledge that if they didn't kill the play then we were about to open them up.

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    Yeah it's the ABs way too, give the three we'll score 5/7. Wales will just not let anyone else score at all!

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    The Blues took the extraordinary step of de-listing Anscombe, which came after his rookie season in which he won them a game in South Africa against good opposition (he had an absolute blinder that day).

    I've increasingly come around to the theory that Anscombe payed the price for the messages that were sent to Pat Lam by other parties. Really shitty to do to a young player, if true.

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    @Tim

    Pretty sure it was Kirwan

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    @Duluth The question for me is whether it was done for reasons unrelated to Anscombe's ability etc.

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    @Tim

    Sure. Kirwan had shitty feedback from another player

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    @Tim said in 6 Nations 2019:

    The Blues took the extraordinary step of de-listing Anscombe, which came after his rookie season in which he won them a game in South Africa against good opposition (he had an absolute blinder that day).

    He took the ball to the line frequently, and then either ran or distributed. Generally, though, he sat in the pocket, which made defenders lick their lips at an undersized 10.

    But yeah, didn't Ma'a (round 1) refuse to play outside him, and then pull the pin and shoot off the the Highlanders?

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    Gareth Anscombe rightly got let go from the Blues after his dad's disgusting racist comments which were backed up by Gareth Anscombe himself.

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    https://www.newshub.co.nz/sport/racist-text-to-pat-lam-confirmed-2012051717

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    @African-Monkey said in 6 Nations 2019:

    which were backed up by Gareth Anscombe himself

    What did Gareth do/say?

    I remember Mark Anscombes excuse that a friend had taken his phone and sent the message

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    @African-Monkey said in 6 Nations 2019:

    Gareth Anscombe rightly got let go from the Blues after his dad's disgusting racist comments which were backed up by Gareth Anscombe himself.

    Is there any evidence of that?

    Anscombe wasn't a good 10 in NZ so he could have been deregistered for that alone, he was a passable fill in 15 for the Chiefs for a season. Parkes wasn't Super level in NZ either.

    I guess players can improve in different environments as these two appear to have.

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    Sorry can't confirm it from any articles or anything but was told by the son of a former Auckland player during the 80s who I won't name incase he is reading. He was also dating JKs niece as well at the time and confirmed that Nonu was particularly disgusted with Mark Anscombe's comments at the time and Gareth for not criticising or apologising for what his father had said behind closed doors and that Kirwan had a choice to make out of Anscombe and Nonu and sure enough Kirwan chose Nonu who fucked off anyway. This conversation started as he heard me criticising Kirwan for letting Anscombe go for Chris Noakes funnily enough haha.

    I'm sure most probably don't believe me haha but that is what I was told and if anyone is interested in who the son of the player was you can message me haha.

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    @reprobate said in 6 Nations 2019:

    the grubber is not something you should do

    FIFY

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    AWJ named Player of the Tournament, and joins Chris Coleman and John Charles in being awarded The Freedom of Swansea

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47643706?fbclid=IwAR3bSITEqo0ttXedzJeXIytISFLnQiMocPZW3QlEewdu6F4eny11Uf7_qMA

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    @MiketheSnow said in 6 Nations 2019:

    AWJ named Player of the Tournament, and joins Chris Coleman and John Charles in being awarded The Freedom of Swansea

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-47643706?fbclid=IwAR3bSITEqo0ttXedzJeXIytISFLnQiMocPZW3QlEewdu6F4eny11Uf7_qMA

    Doesn't that mean he is free to drive his livestock through the town? Fill your boots A-W J, you've earned it!

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