2019 club rugby
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@Stargazer Yeah I noticed that too,but in the Monday game wrap in the hbt it mentions that and he also got the 3 points in the best and fairest in the paper. Also an article on Saturday about Manihera Eden also mentions taradale having 4 Samoan boys ready to do some damage, so perhaps they arrived after the squad lists were submitted.
@kiwimatrix It's odd. HBT isn't a good paper and has been wrong before, but I've seen the HBRU make mistakes, too. I guess, we'll find out in the weeks to come.
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Results 23/3:
Premiers Nash Cup - round 2
MAC 17 - 25 Havelock North
HRS 31 - 27 Clive
NOBM 85 - 12 Central
Taradale 50 - 5 NTOB
Tamatea 15 - 17 PirateTown/Country - Pratt Trophy - round 1
Pirate LBD - WBD Clive
Porangahau 19 -10 Havelock North
Maraenui 28 - 10 MAC
NOBM 17 -17 Otane
WCUMR 27 - 29 NTOB
YMP x - x Taradale
Central WBD - LBD Tamatea -
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I heard someone mentioning that NOBM smashing everyone else with such scores is not good for HB club rugby.
What do you guys think? You can't really say they're stacked with Magpies, so why are they so dominant?By the way, this was today's squad:
@Stargazer I wonder if it's too early to tell, they've played two cabbage teams so far (in the context of this year), we might get a better gauge when they come up against a team with a defensive pattern.
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What level is the Pratt Trophy? I thought there used to be a Premier Reserve grade that followed the same draw as the Premier grade. Has that fallen by the wayside and the Pratt Trophy become effectively the Premier Reserve grade and is open to all clubs?
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What level is the Pratt Trophy? I thought there used to be a Premier Reserve grade that followed the same draw as the Premier grade. Has that fallen by the wayside and the Pratt Trophy become effectively the Premier Reserve grade and is open to all clubs?
@Higgins Premier Reserve grade is only played during the second part of the season. Has been that way for years.
First half of the season:
Premiers - Nash Cup
Town/Country - Pratt Trophy
Div 3 - Maury Coady Cup
and Colts & womenSecond half of the season:
Premiers - Maddison Trophy
Premier Reserve - Jack Swain Cup
Div 2 - Arthur Bowman Cup
Div 3 - Ron Parker Memorial Cup
and Colts & women -
Was at the NOB Marist v Central game.
Central actually scored first for a 7-0 lead, but at halftime it was 40-12 to NOB Marist and Central did not score in the second half.
The forwards were pretty even in the tight, but NOB Marist were hugely superior in the loose forwards and in the backs.
Tom Parsons played 60 minutes for Central, his brother Ben came on for the last 20.
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Nash Cup - try & points scorers:
Havelock North 25 (M Vuicakau 2, A Blake tries; Blake 2 pens, 2 cons)
MAC 17 (P Smith, D Hokianga, F Selesele tries; Smith con). HT: 7-5Taradale 50 (J Malielegaoi 2, O Sapsford 2, J Baker, N Sanft , I Mapu, H Sheild tries; B Truesdale 3, Sapsford, Malielegaoi cons)
Napier Technical 5 (E Martin try)
HT: 26-5Hastings Rugby and Sports 31 (S Ofa 2, N Fomai, S Timu, J Rihia tries; Timu 2, I Ioane cons)
Clive 27 (L Goodin 2, L Udy-Johns 2, J Tangaere tries; J Henry con). HT: 19-10Napier Old Boys Marist 85 (M Buckley 4, L Edwards 2, R Hayes 2, S Paese 2, J Winson, M Drew, P Fatialofa tries; Edwards 10 cons)
Central 12 (J Cutbush 2 tries; B Hardwidge con). HT: 40-12Napier Pirate Rugby and Sports 17 (H Hann 2, T Dodd-Edwards tries; T Lord con)
Tamatea 15 (P Ariki, L McClutchie tries; H Solomon pen, con). HT: 10-all -
Watched Tamatea v Clive.
Clive won 50-36.
Lincoln McClutchie was classy, I thought, in a beaten team.
Scored two tries, both times cutting inside his marker in the Clive 22, kicked well (out of hand and for posts) and passed well, two or three times dummying and then offloading to put the man outside him into gaps. Also bossed the team well with a lot of talk.
Last year's Hastings BHS first XV captain Liam Udy-Johns played well at flanker for Clive.
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Watched NOB
Mv HRS36-31 to NOB. HRS out to an early 10-nil need, NOB came back to be 22-10 up, with the score 22-17 at half time.
HRS got 2 intercept tries in the game with NOB throwing it wide from inside their 22 at almost every occasion.
The back 3 for NOB looked good, with Liam Edwards at fullback particularly good. Ricky Hayes was very solid at 7 for NOB too.
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Watched Tamatea v Clive.
Clive won 50-36.
Lincoln McClutchie was classy, I thought, in a beaten team.
Scored two tries, both times cutting inside his marker in the Clive 22, kicked well (out of hand and for posts) and passed well, two or three times dummying and then offloading to put the man outside him into gaps. Also bossed the team well with a lot of talk.
Last year's Hastings BHS first XV captain Liam Udy-Johns played well at flanker for Clive.
@Number-10 Good to hear that about McClutchie! I still find it a bit frustrating that the Canes haven't given him the same opportunities as Flanders, Kereru-Symes, and Toala. McClutchie is showing so much promise; they should ditch JGB for next year and sign McC, but then a development contract for this season would have made so much sense.
I can't wait to see our young Magpies in action for NZU20s next month, to see how much they've progressed since last season. You'd expect all four players to get selected. Tavita-Metcalfe may miss out; last year's injury may have huge consequences for him. He simply hasn't had enough game time since his injury. And, Fakatava; even if he was able to participate, he might not have been released by the Landers anyway, because of Aaron Smith's injury.
By the way, did Karl Lowe play for Clive? Is he still playing well, or is age showing?
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Yep, no sign of Karl Lowe. He was helping out the Hastings BHS first XV last year. Maybe he's doing the same again this year?
No sign of Kianu Kereru-Symes for Tamatea, either.
That Clive team list of 22 contains only five players that played in last year's Maddison Trophy final - Rana Huata, Lucas Goodin, Bronson Hokianga, Eti Collins, Jesse Tuhua.
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Yep, no sign of Karl Lowe. He was helping out the Hastings BHS first XV last year. Maybe he's doing the same again this year?
No sign of Kianu Kereru-Symes for Tamatea, either.
That Clive team list of 22 contains only five players that played in last year's Maddison Trophy final - Rana Huata, Lucas Goodin, Bronson Hokianga, Eti Collins, Jesse Tuhua.
@Number-10 Kereru-Symes played for Hurricanes Hunters (Dev) on Friday, so that explains why he wasn't playing club rugby.
Karl Lowe is on the Clive team list that was published earlier (see a previous post), just like one of Jonah's other brothers, Jacob. But indeed, maybe he's only available when Hastings Boys isn't playing?
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Just a heads up,former Havelock North coach Joseph Snee who won a couple of titles down your way and has been up in Auckland for the last several years is returning back to the Bay .
Snee won a title with Grammar Tech Up here in Auckland and has been involved with the Auckland Dev squad for the last few seasons..it will be interesting to see where he ends up in the Bay..?.
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Yep, no sign of Karl Lowe. He was helping out the Hastings BHS first XV last year. Maybe he's doing the same again this year?
No sign of Kianu Kereru-Symes for Tamatea, either.
That Clive team list of 22 contains only five players that played in last year's Maddison Trophy final - Rana Huata, Lucas Goodin, Bronson Hokianga, Eti Collins, Jesse Tuhua.
@Number-10 said in 2019 club rugby:
Yep, no sign of Karl Lowe. He was helping out the Hastings BHS first XV last year. Maybe he's doing the same again this year?
No sign of Kianu Kereru-Symes for Tamatea, either.
That Clive team list of 22 contains only five players that played in last year's Maddison Trophy final - Rana Huata, Lucas Goodin, Bronson Hokianga, Eti Collins, Jesse Tuhua.
According to the paper Kereru-Symes played for MAC yesterday and Tim Farrell made his first appearance for 18 months.
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From that article:
Magpies prop Pouri Rakete-Stones was again a powerful figure in the Pirate pack.In his first season out of secondary schools rugby tighthead prop Patrick Teddy was NOBM's player-of-the-match. ... Centre Saia Paese was again classy in the hosts backline."We had a few guys playing out of position and didn't have the same pace as NOBM out wide as Mason [Magpies winger Emerson] was playing sevens in Japan," Rosenberg added.Magpies hooker Kianu Kereru-Symes made his debut for MAC as a loosie ...Clive lead 43-10 and with the Storm Week in mind, all 10 teams will play three games within eight days this week, made numerous changes and leaked 26 points during the final 15 minutes. Three members of last year's Hastings Boys' High School 1st XV, tighthead prop Zac Southwick, lock Donovan Mataira and flanker Liam Udy-Johns provided plenty of grunt to the winning engine room. Magpies pivot Lincoln McClutchie was classy for Tamatea and finished with 21 points from two tries, four conversions and a penalty. His older brother, Keil McClutchie, provided quality impact off the pine at second five-eight ...Magpies prop and 2017 world champion Baby Black Tim Farrell had 20 minutes off the pine in his first outing in 18 months after an injury and scored a try for Altherm Window Systems Napier Technical.https://www.nzherald.co.nz/hawkes-bay-today/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=1503460&objectid=12217926
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@Number-10 said in 2019 club rugby:
Yep, no sign of Karl Lowe. He was helping out the Hastings BHS first XV last year. Maybe he's doing the same again this year?
No sign of Kianu Kereru-Symes for Tamatea, either.
That Clive team list of 22 contains only five players that played in last year's Maddison Trophy final - Rana Huata, Lucas Goodin, Bronson Hokianga, Eti Collins, Jesse Tuhua.
According to the paper Kereru-Symes played for MAC yesterday and Tim Farrell made his first appearance for 18 months.
@kiwimatrix said in 2019 club rugby:
@Number-10 said in 2019 club rugby:
Yep, no sign of Karl Lowe. He was helping out the Hastings BHS first XV last year. Maybe he's doing the same again this year?
No sign of Kianu Kereru-Symes for Tamatea, either.
That Clive team list of 22 contains only five players that played in last year's Maddison Trophy final - Rana Huata, Lucas Goodin, Bronson Hokianga, Eti Collins, Jesse Tuhua.
According to the paper Kereru-Symes played for MAC yesterday and Tim Farrell made his first appearance for 18 months.
Ah, that will explain it!
