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    From Sky Sport:

    THE NZ PLAYER EXODUS ✈️

    Ben Smith, Nehe Milner-Skudder & more... Should we be worried? Leading player agent Simon Porter joins us tonight on The Breakdown to discuss the big 💰 contracts overseas and the #AllBlacks player exodus

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      @Tim

      TJ Perenara has never quite managed to convince that he's a better option than even a not-quite fully-firing Smith.
      

      I disagree with this. When AS was not playing at his best the last few years, TJP has definitely looked the better player. I don't think there's much between the two; they're very different players and one will be more suitable to start against opponent A, and the other against opponent B.

      This bit is hilarious:

      The fact he's also sure he is committing to stay in New Zealand will give him a deeper foundation of stability and he will most likely once again prove he's in that select group, alongside Brodie Retallick, Sam Whitelock, Kieran Read, Sonny Bill Williams and Ben Smith that make a tangible and significant difference to the way the All Blacks play.
      

      When has SBW ever made "a tangible and significant difference to the way the All Blacks play"?

      There is a bit of noise being made about his understudy at the Highlanders, but Folau Fakatava is an untested 19-year-old with an enormous way to go to prove he's even Super Rugby ready.
      

      Well, obviously the Highlanders management disagree, because they have already given him some game time and he'll get more soon. Fakatava is SR ready.

      I think keeping AS in NZ will be a good thing. But mostly for the Highlanders, not the ABs. He'll turn 31 at the end of the year. I can't see him playing in black for 4 more years. Behind TJP, there are a few halfbacks that already are, or will be knocking on the door in the next few years. TTT is the obvious player to look at (if he gets more game time, that's another story), but also Hall, Enari, and yes, maybe in a few years time also Fakatava.

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      @Stargazer said in Exodus 2019:

      When has SBW ever made "a tangible and significant difference to the way the All Blacks play"?

      The most important off the top of my head was the semi in 2015 against SA. He came on, bent the line, ran hard and smashed people. Really made a difference in a very tight game

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        @Stargazer said in Exodus 2019:

        When has SBW ever made "a tangible and significant difference to the way the All Blacks play"?

        The most important off the top of my head was the semi in 2015 against SA. He came on, bent the line, ran hard and smashed people. Really made a difference in a very tight game

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        @nzzp Performing well (or badly) in one or a few specific games is not the same as making "a tangible and significant difference to the way the ABs play".

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          @nzzp Performing well (or badly) in one or a few specific games is not the same as making "a tangible and significant difference to the way the ABs play".

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          @Stargazer said in Exodus 2019:

          @nzzp Performing well (or badly) in one or a few specific games is not the same as making "a tangible and significant difference to the way the ABs play".

          Changed world rugby with his offloading skills. There's that 🙂

          Also - ask the saffers about him. He seemed to play really well, and (like LIam Messam) they generally seemed to consider him god-like and couldn't believe he wasn't starting all the time

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            SBW - polarizing opinions since ages ago!

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              Not sure if it is the right thread but Ronan O'Gara should join the French coaching team for the RWC.

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                Not sure if it is the right thread but Ronan O'Gara should join the French coaching team for the RWC.

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                @cgrant said in Exodus 2019:

                Not sure if it is the right thread but Ronan O'Gara should join the French coaching team for the RWC.

                Sorry cg but do you mean "is likely to" rather than "would benefit if he did"?

                You have a sauce?

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                  Rugbyrama. He and Fabien Galthie are likely to join the coaching staff. I don't know whether they have been signed or if it's just a rumour.

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                    Was watching a bit of the scarlets v Cardiff blues game,Commentator mentioned Willis Halaholo will be eligible for Wales in the upcoming autumn ..how the worm is turning..!

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                      Glad to see them doing something about the loss of players.

                      http://www.allblacks.com/News/33913/dwayne-the-rock-johnson-and-jason-aquaman-momoa-sign-with-nz-rugby

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                        Ryan Crotty to leave NZ at the end of the year. He's signed with Kubota Spears.

                        http://www.allblacks.com/News/33918/crotty-to-farewell-new-zealand-rugby

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                        • StargazerS Stargazer

                          Ryan Crotty to leave NZ at the end of the year. He's signed with Kubota Spears.

                          http://www.allblacks.com/News/33918/crotty-to-farewell-new-zealand-rugby

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                          @Stargazer Is this one also an April Fools prank?

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                            Ryan Crotty to leave NZ at the end of the year. He's signed with Kubota Spears.

                            http://www.allblacks.com/News/33918/crotty-to-farewell-new-zealand-rugby

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                            @Stargazer said in Exodus 2019:

                            Ryan Crotty to leave NZ at the end of the year. He's signed with Kubota Spears.

                            http://www.allblacks.com/News/33918/crotty-to-farewell-new-zealand-rugby

                            That makes the RWC midfield selections easier 😉

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                              Sam Lousi leaving the Canes to join Welsh club Scarlets.

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                                https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/111746329/super-rugby-welsh-club-scarlets-swoop-to-sign-hurricanes-lock-sam-lousi

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                                  Glad to see them doing something about the loss of players.

                                  http://www.allblacks.com/News/33913/dwayne-the-rock-johnson-and-jason-aquaman-momoa-sign-with-nz-rugby

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                                  @gt12 said in Exodus 2019:

                                  Glad to see them doing something about the loss of players.

                                  http://www.allblacks.com/News/33913/dwayne-the-rock-johnson-and-jason-aquaman-momoa-sign-with-nz-rugby

                                  No, it’s all true. I read it on a reputable rugby site from Stephen Jones. I can’t seem to find it now but if you google “Poaching Kiwi Bastards”, I’m fairly sure you’ll find it.

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                                    @gt12 said in Exodus 2019:

                                    Glad to see them doing something about the loss of players.

                                    http://www.allblacks.com/News/33913/dwayne-the-rock-johnson-and-jason-aquaman-momoa-sign-with-nz-rugby

                                    No, it’s all true. I read it on a reputable rugby site from Stephen Jones. I can’t seem to find it now but if you google “Poaching Kiwi Bastards”, I’m fairly sure you’ll find it.

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                                    @Catogrande said in Exodus 2019:

                                    No, it’s all true. I read it on a reputable rugby site from Stephen Jones. I can’t seem to find it now but if you google “Poaching Kiwi Bastards”, I’m fairly sure you’ll find it.

                                    Atlantis is in the Pacific Islands isn't it? Next to the tiny country of Tokoroa.

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                                      @Catogrande said in Exodus 2019:

                                      No, it’s all true. I read it on a reputable rugby site from Stephen Jones. I can’t seem to find it now but if you google “Poaching Kiwi Bastards”, I’m fairly sure you’ll find it.

                                      Atlantis is in the Pacific Islands isn't it? Next to the tiny country of Tokoroa.

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                                      @rotated said in Exodus 2019:

                                      @Catogrande said in Exodus 2019:

                                      No, it’s all true. I read it on a reputable rugby site from Stephen Jones. I can’t seem to find it now but if you google “Poaching Kiwi Bastards”, I’m fairly sure you’ll find it.

                                      Atlantis is in the Pacific Islands isn't it? Next to the tiny country of Tokoroa.

                                      I have it on good authority that you lot know no boundaries and will travel far and wide in your search for plunder. Atlantis is jus a threepenny bus ride.

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                                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/111746329/super-rugby-welsh-club-scarlets-swoop-to-sign-hurricanes-lock-sam-lousi

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                                        @mikey07 said in Exodus 2019:

                                        https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/111746329/super-rugby-welsh-club-scarlets-swoop-to-sign-hurricanes-lock-sam-lousi

                                        This really, really sucks. We have been missing him this season, and our stocks just get shorter and shorter.

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                                        • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

                                          @mikey07 said in Exodus 2019:

                                          https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/111746329/super-rugby-welsh-club-scarlets-swoop-to-sign-hurricanes-lock-sam-lousi

                                          This really, really sucks. We have been missing him this season, and our stocks just get shorter and shorter.

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                                          @Paekakboyz said in Exodus 2019:

                                          our stocks just get shorter and shorter.

                                          Move Ardie to lock?

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