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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    @Stargazer said in 2019 under 20's:

    Players unavailable due to Super Rugby and Sevens commitments
    Caleb Clarke (Blues), Etene Nanai Seturo (Chiefs), Billy Proctor (Hurricanes), Leicester Faingaanuku (Crusaders), Scott Gregory (All Blacks Sevens)

    so they are unavailable for the trial, but will they be made available for selection of the squad for the Cup?

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    @taniwharugby That is usually what happens unless their Super side desperately needs their services.

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @Stargazer said in 2019 under 20's:

      Players unavailable due to Super Rugby and Sevens commitments
      Caleb Clarke (Blues), Etene Nanai Seturo (Chiefs), Billy Proctor (Hurricanes), Leicester Faingaanuku (Crusaders), Scott Gregory (All Blacks Sevens)

      so they are unavailable for the trial, but will they be made available for selection of the squad for the Cup?

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      @taniwharugby said in 2019 under 20's:

      @Stargazer said in 2019 under 20's:

      Players unavailable due to Super Rugby and Sevens commitments
      Caleb Clarke (Blues), Etene Nanai Seturo (Chiefs), Billy Proctor (Hurricanes), Leicester Faingaanuku (Crusaders), Scott Gregory (All Blacks Sevens)

      so they are unavailable for the trial, but will they be made available for selection of the squad for the Cup?

      That's a good question. Jordie Barrett wasn't made available for the second year (2017) he was eligible for the NZU20, was he?

      I guess it depends on a player's status within the team. If he's in the match day 23 regularly, or if there are many injuries, you'll have good reason to doubt he'll be available for the NZ U20s. If I'd have to guess, I'd say it's more likely that Proctor and Faingaanuku will play at the JWC than Clarke and Nanai Seturo. Gregory might be released from the AB7s for the last leg of the World Series, depending on the return of now injured players.

      Edit: correction. Jordie Barrett made the AB7s in 2017.

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      • C chchfanatic

        @Stargazer another one gone from the Lincoln squad. If all the Lincoln boys make the World Cup the dynasty could be over. They’ve lost quite a few from last years team and not many good colts from last year

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        @chchfanatic said in 2019 under 20's:

        @Stargazer another one gone from the Lincoln squad. If all the Lincoln boys make the World Cup the dynasty could be over. They’ve lost quite a few from last years team and not many good colts from last year

        Good, I’m sick of the students winning everything.

        Hopefully Sydenham can make the step up. Although they will probably choke again come semi finals.

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          The Oceania Rugby U20 Championship takes place at Bond University on the Gold Coast over three rounds next month from April 26 to 4 May 2019 and will feature the Junior Wallabies, New Zealand U20, Japan U20s and Fiji U20 teams.
          

          2019 Oceania Rugby U20 Championship Schedule (Bond University Rugby Club)

          Match Round 1: Friday 26 April 2019
          New Zealand v Fiji – Kick off 7pm NZT (5pm, AEST)
          Australia v Japan – Kick off 9pm NZT (7pm, AEST)

          Match Round 2: Tuesday 30 April 2019
          New Zealand v Japan – Kick off 7pm NZT (5pm, AEST)
          Australia v Fiji – Kick off 9pm NZT (7pm, AEST)

          Match Round 3: Saturday 4 May 2019
          Japan v Fiji – Kick off 7pm NZT (5pm, AEST)
          New Zealand v Australia – Kick off 9pm NZT (7pm, AEST)

          http://www.oceaniarugby.com/pageitem.aspx?id=171226&id2=1&eID=66726&entityID=66726

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            The NZ U20s squad for the Oceania U20 Championship has been named:

            Forwards:
            Naitoa Ah Kuoi - Wellington
            Kaylum Boshier - Taranaki
            George Dyer - Waikato
            Samipeni Finau - Waikato
            Devan Flanders - Hawke's Bay
            Cullen Grace - Canterbury
            Kohan Herbert - Bay of Plenty
            Kianu Kereru Symes - Hawke's Bay
            Shilo Klein - Canterbury
            Jeriah Mua - Bay of Plenty
            Fletcher Newell - Canterbury
            Ollie Norris - Waikato
            Simon Parker - Waikato
            Taine Plumtree - Wellington
            Kaliopasi Uluilakepa - Wellington
            Tupou Vaa’i - Taranaki
            Tamaiti Williams - Canterbury

            Backs:
            Fergus Burke - Canterbury
            Leroy Carter - Bay of Plenty
            Leicester Faingaanuku - Ta$man
            Cole Forbes - Bay of Plenty
            Taufa Funaki - Auckland
            Sam Gilbert - Canterbury
            Lalomilo Lalomilo - Bay of Plenty
            Dallas McLeod - Canterbury
            Rivez Reihana - Waikato
            Etene Nanai Seturo - Counties Manukau
            Danny Toala - Hawke's Bay
            Quinn Tupaea - Waikato

            *One back to be added

            Players not considered due to Super Rugby commitments: Caleb Clarke (Auckland/Blues), Billy Proctor (Wellington/Hurricanes)

            Players not considered due to injury: Scott Gregory (Northland), Kaleb Trask (Bay of Plenty), Finlay Brewis (Canterbury), Jack Heighton (North Harbour), Callum Harkin (Wellington)

            Philpott said while the 30 players that head to Australia to defend the Oceania title will form the core of the World Championship squad, the door is not closed for those left behind.
            
            “Last year was a perfect example. Injuries dictated that we called seven players into our squad. The message is clear to those players who have missed initial selection; that we need them to be ready when the call comes."
            
            Also in contention for World Championships will be those players currently injured and those with Super Rugby duties. Philpott made special mention of the Chiefs and Crusaders releasing Etene Nanai-Seturo and Leicester Faingaanuku respectively to be part of the Oceania campaign.
            

            http://www.allblacks.com/News/33937/new-zealand-under-20s-named-for-first-tournament-of-2019

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              No Lincoln McClutchie :angry_face:

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                The players who attended the first and/or second camp, but missed out:

                Forwards
                Iona Apineru - Wellington
                Rob Cobb - Auckland
                Sam Cooper - Waikato
                Sam Dickson - Otago
                Tovo Lesinali Faleafa - Auckland
                Iosefa Maloney-Fiaola - Bay of Plenty
                Josh Hill - Otago
                Shamus Hurley Langton - Wellington
                Michael Loft - Taranaki
                Isileli Manu - Auckland
                Kershawl Sykes Martin - Ta$man
                Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe - Hawkes Bay
                Tane Te Aho - Wellington (hooker)
                James Thompson - Waikato
                Matt Graham Williams - Ta$man

                Backs
                Luke Donaldson - Canterbury
                Chay Fihaki - Canterbury
                Connor Garden Bachop - Wellington
                Jack Gray - Auckland
                Awatere Kiwara - Manawatu
                Lincoln McClutchie - Hawke's Bay
                Brad McNaughten - North Harbour
                Emoni Narawa - Bay of Plenty
                Isaiah Punivai - Canterbury
                Dennon Robinson Barlett - Bay of Plenty
                Zarn Sullivan - Auckland
                Reuben Va’a - Wellington

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                • StargazerS Stargazer

                  The players who attended the first and/or second camp, but missed out:

                  Forwards
                  Iona Apineru - Wellington
                  Rob Cobb - Auckland
                  Sam Cooper - Waikato
                  Sam Dickson - Otago
                  Tovo Lesinali Faleafa - Auckland
                  Iosefa Maloney-Fiaola - Bay of Plenty
                  Josh Hill - Otago
                  Shamus Hurley Langton - Wellington
                  Michael Loft - Taranaki
                  Isileli Manu - Auckland
                  Kershawl Sykes Martin - Ta$man
                  Josiah Tavita-Metcalfe - Hawkes Bay
                  Tane Te Aho - Wellington (hooker)
                  James Thompson - Waikato
                  Matt Graham Williams - Ta$man

                  Backs
                  Luke Donaldson - Canterbury
                  Chay Fihaki - Canterbury
                  Connor Garden Bachop - Wellington
                  Jack Gray - Auckland
                  Awatere Kiwara - Manawatu
                  Lincoln McClutchie - Hawke's Bay
                  Brad McNaughten - North Harbour
                  Emoni Narawa - Bay of Plenty
                  Isaiah Punivai - Canterbury
                  Dennon Robinson Barlett - Bay of Plenty
                  Zarn Sullivan - Auckland
                  Reuben Va’a - Wellington

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                  @Stargazer Connor Garden Bachop would have been in there but he is aparently injured, same with McLutchie and Punivai.

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                    His (CG-B) name is not in the "not considered due to injury" list, so probably not, unless he's the "one player to be added". McClutchie played club rugby last Wednesday and I haven't read anything about him getting injured either. Don't know about Punivai.

                    PS: the allblacks dot com website has been wrong with lists before, but I can't imagine them forgetting three players.

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                      Lincoln McClutchie played for his club Tamatea on Wednesday night, kicking two conversions.

                      He certainly played the whole 80 minutes for his club last Saturday as I saw him score two tries.

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                        Interesting re McLutchie, CGB hasn't played or isn't down to play in this weeks Club rugby so i'm assuming he's injured atm.

                        Surely those guys make it in having all played NPC.

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          Interesting re McLutchie, CGB hasn't played or isn't down to play in this weeks Club rugby so i'm assuming he's injured atm.

                          Surely those guys make it in having all played NPC.

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                          @Canes4life I'm not sure whether they'll make the JWC squad. The media release says the squad for the Oceania U20s is the core of the JWC squad and seems to suggest that players who missed out, depend on injuries to get in.

                          Only one player to be added for the Oceania U20s.

                          It's annoying, because McClutchie was clearly better than Reihana when they played for NZ Schools, McClutchie was very good for the Magpies. I don't know whether Reihana has any NPC experience, but certainly not as much and not as significant as McClutchie. Can't say much about Burke; can't remember him. I assume he played for Canterbury U19s last year.

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                            @Canes4life I'm not sure whether they'll make the JWC squad. The media release says the squad for the Oceania U20s is the core of the JWC squad and seems to suggest that players who missed out, depend on injuries to get in.

                            Only one player to be added for the Oceania U20s.

                            It's annoying, because McClutchie was clearly better than Reihana when they played for NZ Schools, McClutchie was very good for the Magpies. I don't know whether Reihana has any NPC experience, but certainly not as much and not as significant as McClutchie. Can't say much about Burke; can't remember him. I assume he played for Canterbury U19s last year.

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                            @Stargazer Burke is an ok player. I thought they would have gone with Mcclutchir still. I wonder if they are thinking kicking though, but who knows. Surprised about Cobb also as he has already had two years in u20, but overall predictable squad

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                              @Stargazer Burke is an ok player. I thought they would have gone with Mcclutchir still. I wonder if they are thinking kicking though, but who knows. Surprised about Cobb also as he has already had two years in u20, but overall predictable squad

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                              @98blueandgold McClutchie now does the goal kicking for his club, so he must have been working on it. And Toala is an excellent goal kicker.

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                                @Canes4life I'm not sure whether they'll make the JWC squad. The media release says the squad for the Oceania U20s is the core of the JWC squad and seems to suggest that players who missed out, depend on injuries to get in.

                                Only one player to be added for the Oceania U20s.

                                It's annoying, because McClutchie was clearly better than Reihana when they played for NZ Schools, McClutchie was very good for the Magpies. I don't know whether Reihana has any NPC experience, but certainly not as much and not as significant as McClutchie. Can't say much about Burke; can't remember him. I assume he played for Canterbury U19s last year.

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                                @Stargazer said in 2019 under 20's:

                                McClutchie was very good for the Magpies.

                                McClutchie was better than Falcon last year too, who has a settled Super contract.

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                                  Draw for Oceania tournament:

                                  http://www.oceaniarugby.com/common/pages/public/rv/draw.aspx?seasonid=108&gradeid=22911_1&entityid=66726

                                  Round 1
                                  26 Apr 19 5:00PM New Zealand U20s v Fiji U20s Bond University
                                  26 Apr 19 7:00PM Australia U20s v Japan U20s Bond University
                                  Round 2
                                  30 Apr 19 5:00PM New Zealand U20s v Japan U20s Bond University
                                  30 Apr 19 7:00PM Australia U20s v Fiji U20s Bond University
                                  Round 3
                                  4 May 19 5:00PM Japan U20s v Fiji U20s Bond University
                                  4 May 19 7:00PM New Zealand U20s v Australia U20s Bond University

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                                    Draw for Oceania tournament:

                                    http://www.oceaniarugby.com/common/pages/public/rv/draw.aspx?seasonid=108&gradeid=22911_1&entityid=66726

                                    Round 1
                                    26 Apr 19 5:00PM New Zealand U20s v Fiji U20s Bond University
                                    26 Apr 19 7:00PM Australia U20s v Japan U20s Bond University
                                    Round 2
                                    30 Apr 19 5:00PM New Zealand U20s v Japan U20s Bond University
                                    30 Apr 19 7:00PM Australia U20s v Fiji U20s Bond University
                                    Round 3
                                    4 May 19 5:00PM Japan U20s v Fiji U20s Bond University
                                    4 May 19 7:00PM New Zealand U20s v Australia U20s Bond University

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                                    @Tim Yep, see a few posts earlier in this thread (with NZ times) :winking_face:

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                                      South Africa U20s vs Argentina U20s live on youtube


                                      Final score:- Argies 34 - 33 Boks.

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                                        There have been a few changes to the NZ U20s squad for the Oceania U20 Championship that was announced on 5 April:

                                        His 17 forwards look settled, out of which Hawke’s Bay hooker Kianu Kereru-Symes will be skipper. He is one of nine from this squad who played Mitre 10 Cup in 2018, while four appeared for the Under 20s in 2018, a side which won Oceania but placed fourth in the World Cup after dropping the semifinal to France and the bronze playoff to South Africa.
                                        
                                        The backline is bursting with talent and versatility. Last season’s NZ Schools captain Isaiah Punivai, a midfielder/wing, has been called in after injury to Crusaders wing Leicester Faingaanuku, but the latter is expected to be available for the World Cup. The Hurricanes’ Billy Proctor and the Blues’ Caleb Clarke have yet to be released by their franchises, but Proctor, in particular is a likely starter for the World Cup. Etene Nanai-Seturo was originally released by the Chiefs, but depletion of their outside back reserves means he was recalled. The former All Blacks Sevens rep is another who may yet play a part in Argentina.
                                        
                                        Scott Gregory is back from injury, but will likely not be considered until the second game in Australia. With the depth of riches in midfield, Gregory could suit up at either fullback or wing. There are no specialist wings, but Philpott knows several of his charges can do a job on the flanks.
                                        

                                        So the final squad for the Oceania tournament is:

                                        Forwards:
                                        Naitoa Ah Kuoi - Wellington
                                        Kaylum Boshier - Taranaki (vc)
                                        George Dyer - Waikato
                                        Samipeni Finau - Waikato
                                        Devan Flanders - Hawke's Bay
                                        Cullen Grace - Canterbury
                                        Kohan Herbert - Bay of Plenty
                                        Kianu Kereru Symes - Hawke's Bay (c)
                                        Shilo Klein - Canterbury
                                        Jeriah Mua - Bay of Plenty
                                        Fletcher Newell - Canterbury
                                        Ollie Norris - Waikato
                                        Simon Parker - Waikato
                                        Taine Plumtree - Wellington
                                        Kaliopasi Uluilakepa - Wellington
                                        Tupou Vaa’i - Taranaki
                                        Tamaiti Williams - Canterbury

                                        Backs:
                                        Fergus Burke - Canterbury
                                        Leroy Carter - Bay of Plenty
                                        Leicester Faingaanuku - Ta$man
                                        Cole Forbes - Bay of Plenty
                                        Taufa Funaki - Auckland
                                        Sam Gilbert - Canterbury
                                        Lalomilo Lalomilo - Bay of Plenty
                                        Dallas McLeod - Canterbury (vc)
                                        Rivez Reihana - Waikato
                                        Etene Nanai Seturo - Counties Manukau
                                        Danny Toala - Hawke's Bay
                                        Quinn Tupaea - Waikato

                                        Added (all backs):
                                        Isaiah Punivai (Canterbury)
                                        Scott Gregory (Northland)
                                        Chay Fihaki (Canterbury)

                                        .

                                        After France exposed New Zealand in the scrum last year, it is no secret that set-piece has been a key plank of the planning for this 2019 campaign.
                                        
                                        “Especially given our pool at the World Cup (Georgia, Scotland and South Africa). We’ll be pretty good at defending the lineout drive after that. They are very set-piece focused teams, but we have probably one of the biggest packs we’ve selected for a while, especially in the tight five,” says Philpott.
                                        
                                        “In the past, New Zealand rugby has been about our big boys having soft skillsets, being able to catch, pass and run like backs, but we find that is essential they can scrum first and do their core tasks at set-piece.”
                                        
                                        As ever, while the NZ Schools and NZ Barbarians Schools teams offer well-established pathways into the Under 20s, the Jock Hobbs Memorial National Under 19 tournament is a vital step in the selection process.
                                        
                                        “A lot of these guys impressed in that 2018 tournament. One that springs to mind is (lock) Samipeni Finau for Waikato. He was the first player I saw on the first day. He made a break and we thought ‘Wow.’ We kept an eye on him. We’ve also got a lot of Bay of Plenty guys in our team from the side that won the tournament, like Lalomilo Lalomilo, Leroy Carter and Cole Forbes. That’s where they come to the fore, so that tournament is invaluable for us,” says Philpott.
                                        

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                                        Match Round 1: Friday 26 April 2019
                                        New Zealand v Fiji – Kick off 7pm NZT (5pm, AEST)
                                        Australia v Japan – Kick off 9pm NZT (7pm, AEST)

                                        Match Round 2: Tuesday 30 April 2019
                                        New Zealand v Japan – Kick off 7pm NZT (5pm, AEST)
                                        Australia v Fiji – Kick off 9pm NZT (7pm, AEST)

                                        Match Round 3: Saturday 4 May 2019
                                        Japan v Fiji – Kick off 7pm NZT (5pm, AEST)
                                        New Zealand v Australia – Kick off 9pm NZT (7pm, AEST)

                                        .

                                        All matches will be live streamed on www.rugby.com.au.

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                                          I don't understand why they plan these games at the same time as Super Rugby games. Why not on a Thursday evening instead of Friday, and on Saturday afternoon instead of Saturday evening?

                                          I hope they post the full games on YouTube like last year.

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