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Blues 2019

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    Yeah not so much rest rules, as guidelines!

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      So, I've been thinking about our season so far, and what success will look like. It's not winning the comp, or even making the playoffs - I think our bar is lower than that. We've lost a game we should have won (Crusaders). Got smoked physically by teh Shorks, and then played stupid rugby against the Jaguares.

      Since coming home, though, we've shown resilience. I don't think we've played well, and our set piece is a real worry, but we're playing with some heart, commitment and the semblence of a team pattern. I like it a lot.

      For me, if we can achieve the following 5 things in the rest of the comp I'd be happy.

      1. Figure out who our 9-10 is. And stick with them. And if the 9 isn't in the squad, then make damn sure we find a prospect. I've been impressed with Ruru generally, but he's no superstar.

      2. Keep up the coaching.
        Self evident, but you're seeing a good coach get the best out of the players. Nanai looks a different player to the one Tana and JK had. Players seem to be growing and know what their roles are - and the longer good coaches have players, the better they seem to get.

      3. Stop losing players
        anyone really think Nanai would be going overseas if he'd had these coaches last season? Good coaches will retain talent... it's a 2-4 year timeline for us to plug gaps and develop players. Auckland region has the players in the borders - we just have to be credible as a place to play to attract the good ones.

      4. Identify gaps in the squad, and fill them
        I think previous coaches could do the first, but not the second. I mean, who'd go to the Blues? Once we get credibility back, we're a long way down that path.

      5. Finish the year on the up
        We're going to drop some games in a stupid way I think - but all we need going into the offseason is to have some momentum and belief that we're getting better and going to be more competitive next year.

      All this, of course, is predicated on the Board continuing to do a good job and sort out teh front office. It's great to see, and I think if they keep this up they'll lay foundations for a long term healthy organisation.

      To be clear - we're a very very long way from the finished product, but I am pretty happy with the progress I'm seeing. Now I'm just waiting for a catstrophic injury or two, and a classic implosion 🙂

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/rieko-ioane-free-face-waratahs-all-blacks-rest-delayed

        Blues winger Rieko Ioane appears to have found a loophole in the All Blacks’ 2019 Super Rugby rest policy, training today to face the Waratahs at Eden Park on Saturday.
        
        With All Blacks players under orders not to play more than six straight matches leading into this year’s Rugby World Cup in Japan, Ioane appeared to have reached his consecutive match limit after last weekend’s victory over the Stormers.
        
        However, 1 NEWS understands that with the Blues’ bye round falling between March 9-22, the six game limit has been reset, allowing for Ioane to face the Waratahs this weekend.
        
        As a result, Ioane was pictured in full training for the Blues today, put through his paces in preparation to face the New South Wales franchise.
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        @KiwiMurph it's a shame the bye week didn't apply in the case of Tele'as suspension! Its really a 5 week suspension if he can only return on 10th May.

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          A puff piece on Caleb Clarke. That was a great comeback match after injury and a couple of sub par games last year. The try celebration was a good touch

          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12220345

          https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1115001317863317506

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            Gibson and SBW unavailable for the next two games at least (Chiefs & Highlanders)

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              https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1115431730482016258

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                https://twitter.com/BluesRugbyTeam/status/1115431730482016258

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                @Stargazer they must be enjoying their time in the environment eh 🙂

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                  @Stargazer they must be enjoying their time in the environment eh 🙂

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                  @nzzp It's really good news. Gives some stability in the squad. You'd have to wonder for how many years they've re-signed Parsons though. No media release on the website yet.

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                    @nzzp It's really good news. Gives some stability in the squad. You'd have to wonder for how many years they've re-signed Parsons though. No media release on the website yet.

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                    @Stargazer said in Blues 2019:

                    @nzzp It's really good news. Gives some stability in the squad. You'd have to wonder for how many years they've re-signed Parsons though. No media release on the website yet.

                    aw crap, missed that.

                    I like Parsons, but he's physically too small for this level. God loves a trier, but he just gets ragdolled too often

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                      The Super Seven comprise James Parsons, TJ Faiane, Sione Mafileo, Otere Black, Tom Robinson and Stephen Perofeta, who will continue at the Blues until 2021, while young star Caleb Clarke has signed until 2022.

                      https://theblues.co.nz/super-7-extend-their-stay/

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                        I have no problem with Parsons getting another contract. 15 hookers get contracts and to be honest there aren't 15 good options in NZ

                        Hopefully we recruit another one and he drops back to 2nd or 3rd choice

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                          With the contract duration: all signed through to 2021, except Clarke (2022).

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                            Excellent news.

                            I wonder if Perofeta will be looked at as a 15 option next year as a replacement for Nanai.

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                              I have no problem with Parsons getting another contract. 15 hookers get contracts and to be honest there aren't 15 good options in NZ

                              Hopefully we recruit another one and he drops back to 2nd or 3rd choice

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                              @Duluth yep thats the thing...he is a great guy to have in your squad, but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

                              As I said in the Blues/tahs thread, he is a trier, he gets through alot of work, is reasonably accurate but is pretty passive, doesnt get beyond the gain line much, makes alot of tackles, but these are almost like he is just a speed bump tripping the guy over 😉 ...he is 3rd top tackler for the Blues...that said, Blues seem content to continue using him as a ball runner despite his lack of punch...

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                                @Duluth yep thats the thing...he is a great guy to have in your squad, but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

                                As I said in the Blues/tahs thread, he is a trier, he gets through alot of work, is reasonably accurate but is pretty passive, doesnt get beyond the gain line much, makes alot of tackles, but these are almost like he is just a speed bump tripping the guy over 😉 ...he is 3rd top tackler for the Blues...that said, Blues seem content to continue using him as a ball runner despite his lack of punch...

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                                @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

                                but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

                                I agree

                                But this just suggests that MacDonald isn't happy with the other options in the squad he inherited. Next year there is no excuse.

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                                  @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

                                  but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

                                  I agree

                                  But this just suggests that MacDonald isn't happy with the other options in the squad he inherited. Next year there is no excuse.

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                                  @Duluth for sure...Apisai I can understand, but based on what I have heard about Moulds over the years, I cannot understand them sitting him out as much as they do, more so the area of his game that was an issue is no worse than Parsons when you look at the upside with the rest of Moulds game vs Parsons.

                                  As I have said before, something just doesnt add up, so not sure what is up there and I have heard he is likely to head off anyway...always thought it odd how little they used him, yet they kept offering him contracts and he kept signing them...

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                                    Media release: https://theblues.co.nz/super-7-extend-their-stay/

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                                      @Duluth for sure...Apisai I can understand, but based on what I have heard about Moulds over the years, I cannot understand them sitting him out as much as they do, more so the area of his game that was an issue is no worse than Parsons when you look at the upside with the rest of Moulds game vs Parsons.

                                      As I have said before, something just doesnt add up, so not sure what is up there and I have heard he is likely to head off anyway...always thought it odd how little they used him, yet they kept offering him contracts and he kept signing them...

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                                      @taniwharugby
                                      Moulds probably signed before Parsons in previous years, only to find he’s stuck behind the captain. Now they have two captains that are either injured or standing down for AB’s, so Parsons is still sometimes captain.

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                                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                        Excellent news.

                                        I wonder if Perofeta will be looked at as a 15 option next year as a replacement for Nanai.

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                                        @KiwiMurph Yeah I was thinking that unless we recruit someone to replace Nanai.

                                        Does that mean Nock, Collins, Apisai and Tupou are gone after this year?

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

                                          but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

                                          I agree

                                          But this just suggests that MacDonald isn't happy with the other options in the squad he inherited. Next year there is no excuse.

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                                          @Duluth said in Blues 2019:

                                          @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

                                          but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

                                          I agree

                                          But this just suggests that MacDonald isn't happy with the other options in the squad he inherited. Next year there is no excuse.

                                          Leon has a givealittle page for buying hookers - donate! 🙂

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