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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @nzzp It's really good news. Gives some stability in the squad. You'd have to wonder for how many years they've re-signed Parsons though. No media release on the website yet.

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    @Stargazer said in Blues 2019:

    @nzzp It's really good news. Gives some stability in the squad. You'd have to wonder for how many years they've re-signed Parsons though. No media release on the website yet.

    aw crap, missed that.

    I like Parsons, but he's physically too small for this level. God loves a trier, but he just gets ragdolled too often

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      The Super Seven comprise James Parsons, TJ Faiane, Sione Mafileo, Otere Black, Tom Robinson and Stephen Perofeta, who will continue at the Blues until 2021, while young star Caleb Clarke has signed until 2022.

      https://theblues.co.nz/super-7-extend-their-stay/

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        I have no problem with Parsons getting another contract. 15 hookers get contracts and to be honest there aren't 15 good options in NZ

        Hopefully we recruit another one and he drops back to 2nd or 3rd choice

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          With the contract duration: all signed through to 2021, except Clarke (2022).

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            Excellent news.

            I wonder if Perofeta will be looked at as a 15 option next year as a replacement for Nanai.

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            • DuluthD Duluth

              I have no problem with Parsons getting another contract. 15 hookers get contracts and to be honest there aren't 15 good options in NZ

              Hopefully we recruit another one and he drops back to 2nd or 3rd choice

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              @Duluth yep thats the thing...he is a great guy to have in your squad, but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

              As I said in the Blues/tahs thread, he is a trier, he gets through alot of work, is reasonably accurate but is pretty passive, doesnt get beyond the gain line much, makes alot of tackles, but these are almost like he is just a speed bump tripping the guy over 😉 ...he is 3rd top tackler for the Blues...that said, Blues seem content to continue using him as a ball runner despite his lack of punch...

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @Duluth yep thats the thing...he is a great guy to have in your squad, but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

                As I said in the Blues/tahs thread, he is a trier, he gets through alot of work, is reasonably accurate but is pretty passive, doesnt get beyond the gain line much, makes alot of tackles, but these are almost like he is just a speed bump tripping the guy over 😉 ...he is 3rd top tackler for the Blues...that said, Blues seem content to continue using him as a ball runner despite his lack of punch...

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                @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

                but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

                I agree

                But this just suggests that MacDonald isn't happy with the other options in the squad he inherited. Next year there is no excuse.

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                • DuluthD Duluth

                  @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

                  but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

                  I agree

                  But this just suggests that MacDonald isn't happy with the other options in the squad he inherited. Next year there is no excuse.

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                  @Duluth for sure...Apisai I can understand, but based on what I have heard about Moulds over the years, I cannot understand them sitting him out as much as they do, more so the area of his game that was an issue is no worse than Parsons when you look at the upside with the rest of Moulds game vs Parsons.

                  As I have said before, something just doesnt add up, so not sure what is up there and I have heard he is likely to head off anyway...always thought it odd how little they used him, yet they kept offering him contracts and he kept signing them...

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                    Media release: https://theblues.co.nz/super-7-extend-their-stay/

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                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                      @Duluth for sure...Apisai I can understand, but based on what I have heard about Moulds over the years, I cannot understand them sitting him out as much as they do, more so the area of his game that was an issue is no worse than Parsons when you look at the upside with the rest of Moulds game vs Parsons.

                      As I have said before, something just doesnt add up, so not sure what is up there and I have heard he is likely to head off anyway...always thought it odd how little they used him, yet they kept offering him contracts and he kept signing them...

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                      @taniwharugby
                      Moulds probably signed before Parsons in previous years, only to find he’s stuck behind the captain. Now they have two captains that are either injured or standing down for AB’s, so Parsons is still sometimes captain.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        Excellent news.

                        I wonder if Perofeta will be looked at as a 15 option next year as a replacement for Nanai.

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                        @KiwiMurph Yeah I was thinking that unless we recruit someone to replace Nanai.

                        Does that mean Nock, Collins, Apisai and Tupou are gone after this year?

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                        • DuluthD Duluth

                          @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

                          but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

                          I agree

                          But this just suggests that MacDonald isn't happy with the other options in the squad he inherited. Next year there is no excuse.

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                          @Duluth said in Blues 2019:

                          @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

                          but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

                          I agree

                          But this just suggests that MacDonald isn't happy with the other options in the squad he inherited. Next year there is no excuse.

                          Leon has a givealittle page for buying hookers - donate! 🙂

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                          • Chris B.C Chris B.

                            @Duluth said in Blues 2019:

                            @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

                            but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

                            I agree

                            But this just suggests that MacDonald isn't happy with the other options in the squad he inherited. Next year there is no excuse.

                            Leon has a givealittle page for buying hookers - donate! 🙂

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                            @Chris-B said in Blues 2019:

                            @Duluth said in Blues 2019:

                            @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

                            but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

                            I agree

                            But this just suggests that MacDonald isn't happy with the other options in the squad he inherited. Next year there is no excuse.

                            Leon has a givealittle page for buying hookers - donate! 🙂

                            me too!!

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                              https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12220750

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                                If Moulds is off, then I wouldn't be surprised to see Abel back.

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                                  Abel and Sosene-Feagai both played well for Auckland, and Eklund and Olsen also look promising. The last two are inexperienced at this level, and there are questions over athletic ability.

                                  Nathan Harris and Samisoni Taukei'aho are both off contract, and I think that Makalio and Funnell are too. Then there's Coltman. We should try for all of those names and Abel. Who would you prefer?

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                                    IIRC, these are the 18 players who are signed for next year:

                                    Prop
                                    Alex Hodgman
                                    Ofa Tu'ungafasi
                                    Karl Tu’inukuafe
                                    Sione Mafileo

                                    Hooker
                                    James Parsons

                                    Lock
                                    Patrick Tuipulotu

                                    Loose Forward
                                    Blake Gibson
                                    Dalton Papali'i
                                    Akira Ioane
                                    Hoskins Sotutu
                                    Tom Robinson

                                    Halfback

                                    1st 5
                                    Otere Black
                                    Harry Plummer
                                    Stephen Perofeta

                                    Midfield
                                    Tanielu Tele’a
                                    TJ Faiane

                                    Wing/Fullback
                                    Rieko Ioane
                                    Caleb Clarke

                                    --

                                    Tele'a has the physical ability. Will be interesting to see how he goes after a season of Super Rugby. Hopefully he'll get some good game time in the NPC.

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                                    • TimT Tim

                                      Abel and Sosene-Feagai both played well for Auckland, and Eklund and Olsen also look promising. The last two are inexperienced at this level, and there are questions over athletic ability.

                                      Nathan Harris and Samisoni Taukei'aho are both off contract, and I think that Makalio and Funnell are too. Then there's Coltman. We should try for all of those names and Abel. Who would you prefer?

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                                      @Tim Don't forget Luteru Tolai in your mix of hooker prospects. I was impressed by him in the 2 dev. games I saw. He is only 20 years old but is a big powerful unit (119kgs). Hopefully he can get enough minutes playing behind Parsons at harbour to develop his game and for us to assess him properly.

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                                      • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                        @Tim Don't forget Luteru Tolai in your mix of hooker prospects. I was impressed by him in the 2 dev. games I saw. He is only 20 years old but is a big powerful unit (119kgs). Hopefully he can get enough minutes playing behind Parsons at harbour to develop his game and for us to assess him properly.

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                                        @Daffy-Jaffy Had no idea he was that young.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          @Daffy-Jaffy Had no idea he was that young.

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                                          @Tim Just googled to check if my memory was right - born -Jun 1, 1998.

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