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  • DuluthD Duluth

    I have no problem with Parsons getting another contract. 15 hookers get contracts and to be honest there aren't 15 good options in NZ

    Hopefully we recruit another one and he drops back to 2nd or 3rd choice

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    @Duluth yep thats the thing...he is a great guy to have in your squad, but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

    As I said in the Blues/tahs thread, he is a trier, he gets through alot of work, is reasonably accurate but is pretty passive, doesnt get beyond the gain line much, makes alot of tackles, but these are almost like he is just a speed bump tripping the guy over 😉 ...he is 3rd top tackler for the Blues...that said, Blues seem content to continue using him as a ball runner despite his lack of punch...

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    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

      @Duluth yep thats the thing...he is a great guy to have in your squad, but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

      As I said in the Blues/tahs thread, he is a trier, he gets through alot of work, is reasonably accurate but is pretty passive, doesnt get beyond the gain line much, makes alot of tackles, but these are almost like he is just a speed bump tripping the guy over 😉 ...he is 3rd top tackler for the Blues...that said, Blues seem content to continue using him as a ball runner despite his lack of punch...

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      @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

      but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

      I agree

      But this just suggests that MacDonald isn't happy with the other options in the squad he inherited. Next year there is no excuse.

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      • DuluthD Duluth

        @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

        but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

        I agree

        But this just suggests that MacDonald isn't happy with the other options in the squad he inherited. Next year there is no excuse.

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        @Duluth for sure...Apisai I can understand, but based on what I have heard about Moulds over the years, I cannot understand them sitting him out as much as they do, more so the area of his game that was an issue is no worse than Parsons when you look at the upside with the rest of Moulds game vs Parsons.

        As I have said before, something just doesnt add up, so not sure what is up there and I have heard he is likely to head off anyway...always thought it odd how little they used him, yet they kept offering him contracts and he kept signing them...

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          Media release: https://theblues.co.nz/super-7-extend-their-stay/

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            @Duluth for sure...Apisai I can understand, but based on what I have heard about Moulds over the years, I cannot understand them sitting him out as much as they do, more so the area of his game that was an issue is no worse than Parsons when you look at the upside with the rest of Moulds game vs Parsons.

            As I have said before, something just doesnt add up, so not sure what is up there and I have heard he is likely to head off anyway...always thought it odd how little they used him, yet they kept offering him contracts and he kept signing them...

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            @taniwharugby
            Moulds probably signed before Parsons in previous years, only to find he’s stuck behind the captain. Now they have two captains that are either injured or standing down for AB’s, so Parsons is still sometimes captain.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              Excellent news.

              I wonder if Perofeta will be looked at as a 15 option next year as a replacement for Nanai.

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              @KiwiMurph Yeah I was thinking that unless we recruit someone to replace Nanai.

              Does that mean Nock, Collins, Apisai and Tupou are gone after this year?

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              • DuluthD Duluth

                @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

                but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

                I agree

                But this just suggests that MacDonald isn't happy with the other options in the squad he inherited. Next year there is no excuse.

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                @Duluth said in Blues 2019:

                @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

                but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

                I agree

                But this just suggests that MacDonald isn't happy with the other options in the squad he inherited. Next year there is no excuse.

                Leon has a givealittle page for buying hookers - donate! 🙂

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  @Duluth said in Blues 2019:

                  @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

                  but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

                  I agree

                  But this just suggests that MacDonald isn't happy with the other options in the squad he inherited. Next year there is no excuse.

                  Leon has a givealittle page for buying hookers - donate! 🙂

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                  @Chris-B said in Blues 2019:

                  @Duluth said in Blues 2019:

                  @taniwharugby said in Blues 2019:

                  but no way should he be starting week in week out and then getting anywhere near as many minutes as he does.

                  I agree

                  But this just suggests that MacDonald isn't happy with the other options in the squad he inherited. Next year there is no excuse.

                  Leon has a givealittle page for buying hookers - donate! 🙂

                  me too!!

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                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/rugby/news/article.cfm?c_id=80&objectid=12220750

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                      If Moulds is off, then I wouldn't be surprised to see Abel back.

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                        Abel and Sosene-Feagai both played well for Auckland, and Eklund and Olsen also look promising. The last two are inexperienced at this level, and there are questions over athletic ability.

                        Nathan Harris and Samisoni Taukei'aho are both off contract, and I think that Makalio and Funnell are too. Then there's Coltman. We should try for all of those names and Abel. Who would you prefer?

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                          IIRC, these are the 18 players who are signed for next year:

                          Prop
                          Alex Hodgman
                          Ofa Tu'ungafasi
                          Karl Tu’inukuafe
                          Sione Mafileo

                          Hooker
                          James Parsons

                          Lock
                          Patrick Tuipulotu

                          Loose Forward
                          Blake Gibson
                          Dalton Papali'i
                          Akira Ioane
                          Hoskins Sotutu
                          Tom Robinson

                          Halfback

                          1st 5
                          Otere Black
                          Harry Plummer
                          Stephen Perofeta

                          Midfield
                          Tanielu Tele’a
                          TJ Faiane

                          Wing/Fullback
                          Rieko Ioane
                          Caleb Clarke

                          --

                          Tele'a has the physical ability. Will be interesting to see how he goes after a season of Super Rugby. Hopefully he'll get some good game time in the NPC.

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                          • TimT Tim

                            Abel and Sosene-Feagai both played well for Auckland, and Eklund and Olsen also look promising. The last two are inexperienced at this level, and there are questions over athletic ability.

                            Nathan Harris and Samisoni Taukei'aho are both off contract, and I think that Makalio and Funnell are too. Then there's Coltman. We should try for all of those names and Abel. Who would you prefer?

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                            @Tim Don't forget Luteru Tolai in your mix of hooker prospects. I was impressed by him in the 2 dev. games I saw. He is only 20 years old but is a big powerful unit (119kgs). Hopefully he can get enough minutes playing behind Parsons at harbour to develop his game and for us to assess him properly.

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                            • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                              @Tim Don't forget Luteru Tolai in your mix of hooker prospects. I was impressed by him in the 2 dev. games I saw. He is only 20 years old but is a big powerful unit (119kgs). Hopefully he can get enough minutes playing behind Parsons at harbour to develop his game and for us to assess him properly.

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                              @Daffy-Jaffy Had no idea he was that young.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                @Daffy-Jaffy Had no idea he was that young.

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                                @Tim Just googled to check if my memory was right - born -Jun 1, 1998.

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                                • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                                  @Tim Don't forget Luteru Tolai in your mix of hooker prospects. I was impressed by him in the 2 dev. games I saw. He is only 20 years old but is a big powerful unit (119kgs). Hopefully he can get enough minutes playing behind Parsons at harbour to develop his game and for us to assess him properly.

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                                  @Daffy-Jaffy He's a converted hooker too as he spent all his school years playing in the back row.

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                                  • TimT Tim

                                    Abel and Sosene-Feagai both played well for Auckland, and Eklund and Olsen also look promising. The last two are inexperienced at this level, and there are questions over athletic ability.

                                    Nathan Harris and Samisoni Taukei'aho are both off contract, and I think that Makalio and Funnell are too. Then there's Coltman. We should try for all of those names and Abel. Who would you prefer?

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                                    #1520

                                    @Tim said in Blues 2019:

                                    Abel and Sosene-Feagai both played well for Auckland, and Eklund and Olsen also look promising. The last two are inexperienced at this level, and there are questions over athletic ability.

                                    Nathan Harris and Samisoni Taukei'aho are both off contract, and I think that Makalio and Funnell are too. Then there's Coltman. We should try for all of those names and Abel. Who would you prefer?

                                    Maybe GPT is in the mix too?

                                    His form has been all over the place. We might see improvements with a NPC season under Tiatia then Coventry at SR level

                                    No idea what his contract situation is. Canterbury NPC last year, but it appears he has no fully pro contract (he was in that 'World XV' that played the Force recently)

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                                      https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-moment-tom-robinsons-all-black-quest-came-to-an-end-for-this-year

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                                      • DuluthD Duluth

                                        https://www.rugbypass.com/news/the-moment-tom-robinsons-all-black-quest-came-to-an-end-for-this-year

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                                        @Duluth Is that article saying that one mistake, that didn't cost the game, is the reason he won't make the AB's this year?

                                        He's been named in the training squad of 51?

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                                          @Duluth Is that article saying that one mistake, that didn't cost the game, is the reason he won't make the AB's this year?

                                          He's been named in the training squad of 51?

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                                          Duluth
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                                          @Hooroo

                                          Yes, it's overstating the importance of that error

                                          He isn't in the squad

                                          The Tahs going down the blindside was really obvious though. Plummer had come on for Rieko.. I doubt he played much wing before and he was getting advice from team mates on where to stand.
                                          Robinson should have been expecting the Tahs to go down that side

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