2019 Rugby Championship
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However, Hansen said an agreement with New Zealand Rugby and the five Kiwi Super Rugby franchises around the foundation days – another will be held in Auckland on May 20 for the North Island players and in Christchurch on June 3 for the South Islanders – meant only those involved with the All Blacks last year could be included.
The reason for that was "so they [New Zealand franchises] could do some clear planning and would have an understanding of who they would have and who they would not have", Hansen said.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12222576
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However, Hansen said an agreement with New Zealand Rugby and the five Kiwi Super Rugby franchises around the foundation days – another will be held in Auckland on May 20 for the North Island players and in Christchurch on June 3 for the South Islanders – meant only those involved with the All Blacks last year could be included.
The reason for that was "so they [New Zealand franchises] could do some clear planning and would have an understanding of who they would have and who they would not have", Hansen said.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12222576
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@Machpants and Tom Robinson spends alot of time on the wings for the Blues too
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@Machpants and Tom Robinson spends alot of time on the wings for the Blues too
@taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Machpants and Tom Robinson spends alot of time on the wings for the Blues too
Tom Robinson ABs #3 #10 confirmed
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There is absolutely no way Ryan Crotty gets a start at 10 in an international treat match. Has he ever played a game at 10 even at NPC level??
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There is absolutely no way Ryan Crotty gets a start at 10 in an international treat match. Has he ever played a game at 10 even at NPC level??
@Billy-Tell said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
There is absolutely no way Ryan Crotty gets a start at 10 in an international treat match. Has he ever played a game at 10 even at NPC level??
And yet Leon MacDonald started for the All Blacks at 10 when things got desperate.
I'd rather a very good, very experienced player out of position than a very average and green player in position. Stephen Donald was a better first-five than all the options being currently lined up, and he was poor the first times he played for the ABs.
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With all the pr nonsense floating around it's easy to forget how sport and luck can be so cruel.
Not long ago DMac was the most resilient player in NZ - did about 2 seasons playing every minute for the chiefs or thereabouts
@Siam said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
With all the pr nonsense floating around it's easy to forget how sport and luck can be so cruel.
Yeah, the cruelness of injuries is what gave him a full season when he was still very young though.
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@Billy-Tell said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
There is absolutely no way Ryan Crotty gets a start at 10 in an international treat match. Has he ever played a game at 10 even at NPC level??
And yet Leon MacDonald started for the All Blacks at 10 when things got desperate.
I'd rather a very good, very experienced player out of position than a very average and green player in position. Stephen Donald was a better first-five than all the options being currently lined up, and he was poor the first times he played for the ABs.
@Chester-Draws said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Billy-Tell said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
There is absolutely no way Ryan Crotty gets a start at 10 in an international treat match. Has he ever played a game at 10 even at NPC level??
And yet Leon MacDonald started for the All Blacks at 10 when things got desperate.
I'd rather a very good, very experienced player out of position than a very average and green player in position. Stephen Donald was a better first-five than all the options being currently lined up, and he was poor the first times he played for the ABs.
MacDonald was an experienced 10. Played plenty of provincial and Super at 10.
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I think you could see four different starting First Fives for the four different ABs games.
For example:
Crotty Vs Argentina, Barrett (B) Vs South Africa, Barrett (J) Vs Australia (A), Mo'unga Vs Australia (H)
@sparky said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
I think you could see four different starting First Fives for the four different ABs games.
For example:
Crotty Vs Argentina, Barrett (B) Vs South Africa, Barrett (J) Vs Australia (A), Mo'unga Vs Australia (H)
I don't think either Crotty or Jordie has the attributes to play first five effectively. Crotty doesn't kick much for the Crusaders - the second clearing option is usually Havili.
Reality is that if Beaudy and Mo'unga get broken from here, we are most likely fucked. This 2019 team isn't as good as the 2015 team and the 2015 team probably wouldn't have beaten either the Boks or Australia with a makeshift first five.
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@sparky said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
I think you could see four different starting First Fives for the four different ABs games.
For example:
Crotty Vs Argentina, Barrett (B) Vs South Africa, Barrett (J) Vs Australia (A), Mo'unga Vs Australia (H)
I don't think either Crotty or Jordie has the attributes to play first five effectively. Crotty doesn't kick much for the Crusaders - the second clearing option is usually Havili.
Reality is that if Beaudy and Mo'unga get broken from here, we are most likely fucked. This 2019 team isn't as good as the 2015 team and the 2015 team probably wouldn't have beaten either the Boks or Australia with a makeshift first five.
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@gt12 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Chris-B
That’s pretty much it. Nevertheless, some one needs to be brought in. So, who?
Beaver
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@gt12 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
@Chris-B
That’s pretty much it. Nevertheless, some one needs to be brought in. So, who?
Beaver
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It’ll be interesting if he sees time for the Chiefs now.
@gt12 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:
It’ll be interesting if he sees time for the Chiefs now.
yeah nah, I'm not serious
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@gt12 Probably Otere Black.
The ABs were happy to play DMac at first five after pretty much one season of Super rugby as a first five - by the time we get to the 4N Black should have a similar amount of of Super time under his belt plus the added advantage of having specialized at first five throughout his career.
Disadvantage of no prior international experience - but, it seems like DMac wasn't going to play much first five for the Chiefs this year, so I'm not panicking just yet. We've lost our third string first five - but, there's at least 10 players we can less afford to lose.
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That’s a positive view; I’ll take it.
Assuming no one else gets injured, it gives a lot of clarity about roles in the team - they’ll pick BB to start, BFA at the back, and Mo’unga off the bench. So, it’s Naholo or Bridge for 14.
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That’s a positive view; I’ll take it.
Assuming no one else gets injured, it gives a lot of clarity about roles in the team - they’ll pick BB to start, BFA at the back, and Mo’unga off the bench. So, it’s Naholo or Bridge for 14.
@gt12 What they probably won't now do is:
ASmith, Mo'unga, Ioane, a second five, Goodhue, BSmith, BBarrett, which might well be our best combination.
But, I don't think Hansen would entrust Mo'unga with the reins - it goes against his grain when he's got an experienced option - and that grain has served him pretty well.
