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2020 All Blacks Squad

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  • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

    And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

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    @Chester-Draws assuming they are open about it just being arthroscopy, this is not a major surgery and could well be back up and running in a couple of weeks.

    As a non-elite athlete, I was back playing to my high level 4 weeks post arthroscopy.

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    • Chester DrawsC Chester Draws

      And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

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      @Chester-Draws said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

      And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

      I think badly broken is overstating it. It’s minor surgery that will sideline him for about a month.

      Blues head coach Leon MacDonald said: "Whatever he decides to do and puts his mind to, he sort of makes happen. If he still wants to keep playing later on he's the sort of guy you would never write off.
      "He's a pretty determined guy and this year he really wants to make the World Cup squad and be a part of that. So he's pretty driven to make sure he recovers well from this and gets back on the field."

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        Coltman has signed through to 2022:

        All Blacks hooker Liam Coltman re-signs with Highlanders

        https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/112066593/super-rugby-all-blacks-hooker-liam-coltman-resigns-with-highlanders

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        • sparkyS sparky

          Coltman has signed through to 2022:

          All Blacks hooker Liam Coltman re-signs with Highlanders

          https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/112066593/super-rugby-all-blacks-hooker-liam-coltman-resigns-with-highlanders

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          @sparky said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

          All Blacks hooker Liam Coltman

          not wonderful, but not as scary at this stage as 'All Blacks first five Otere Black'

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          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

            @Chester-Draws said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

            And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

            I think badly broken is overstating it. It’s minor surgery that will sideline him for about a month.

            Blues head coach Leon MacDonald said: "Whatever he decides to do and puts his mind to, he sort of makes happen. If he still wants to keep playing later on he's the sort of guy you would never write off.
            "He's a pretty determined guy and this year he really wants to make the World Cup squad and be a part of that. So he's pretty driven to make sure he recovers well from this and gets back on the field."

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            @ACT-Crusader said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

            @Chester-Draws said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

            And SBW is badly broken again. Six weeks with knee surgery. His chances of making the RWC squad are looking increasingly slim.

            I think badly broken is overstating it. It’s minor surgery that will sideline him for about a month.

            Which wouldn't matter much, if he had been playing regularly.

            In this case it's one more month out, minimum. The newspaper said six weeks (plus the two since the injury, makes eight weeks off). Then he'll not be at full fitness for a while.

            I was always in the pro-SBW camp, but it's got past ridiculous. I believe the term is "food bill".

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              #180

              Nathan Harris has re-signed with NZR and the Chiefs for 2020 and 2021:

              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/112200022/all-blacks-hooker-nathan-harris-resigns-with-new-zealand-rugby

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                #181

                Richie Mo'unga currently looks like the first-choice First-Five for 2019:

                Still unclear what is going to happen to the following All Blacks whose deals run out in 2019.

                Brodie Retallick:
                Jack Goodhue:
                Beauden Barrett:
                Jordie Barrett:
                Sonny Bill Williams:
                Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi:
                Kane Hames:
                Shannon Frizell:
                Waisake Naholo:
                Matt Todd:
                Luke Romano:
                Sam Whitelock (Could take up one-year extension)

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  Richie Mo'unga currently looks like the first-choice First-Five for 2019:

                  Still unclear what is going to happen to the following All Blacks whose deals run out in 2019.

                  Brodie Retallick:
                  Jack Goodhue:
                  Beauden Barrett:
                  Jordie Barrett:
                  Sonny Bill Williams:
                  Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi:
                  Kane Hames:
                  Shannon Frizell:
                  Waisake Naholo:
                  Matt Todd:
                  Luke Romano:
                  Sam Whitelock (Could take up one-year extension)

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                  @sparky hopefully Beaudy follows his bro and signs an extension with Canes and NZ rugby through to the next WC.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @sparky hopefully Beaudy follows his bro and signs an extension with Canes and NZ rugby through to the next WC.

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                    @Canes4life Has Jordie already re-signed with the Canes?

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                      I thought Jordie Barrett signed a one year extension in 2018 just for 2019 I haven't heard he's re-signed anywhere as yet.

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        I thought Jordie Barrett signed a one year extension in 2018 just for 2019 I haven't heard he's re-signed anywhere as yet.

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                        @Chris nevermind I thought he had, sheesh I hope they both sign then or the Canes are stuffed. Guys like Tiatia and Toala just seem a bit average when you look at the Crusaders roster.

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                        • ChrisC Chris

                          I thought Jordie Barrett signed a one year extension in 2018 just for 2019 I haven't heard he's re-signed anywhere as yet.

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                          @Chris Yep, only a one year extension.

                          https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2018/07/ardie-savea-jordie-barrett-re-sign-with-nz-rugby-for-2019.html

                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12091127

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            @Chris nevermind I thought he had, sheesh I hope they both sign then or the Canes are stuffed. Guys like Tiatia and Toala just seem a bit average when you look at the Crusaders roster.

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                            @Canes4life Geez, Toala is only just 20 years old, has played 4 Mitre 10 Cup games, hasn't played a single SR game yet, and you already call him average? He's a huge prospect! The question is, will he get the opportunities to grow and develop as a SR player, or will he waste his time at the Canes and only watch on from the stands every week? Like a few other players ...

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                            • sparkyS sparky

                              Richie Mo'unga currently looks like the first-choice First-Five for 2019:

                              Still unclear what is going to happen to the following All Blacks whose deals run out in 2019.

                              Brodie Retallick:
                              Jack Goodhue:
                              Beauden Barrett:
                              Jordie Barrett:
                              Sonny Bill Williams:
                              Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi:
                              Kane Hames:
                              Shannon Frizell:
                              Waisake Naholo:
                              Matt Todd:
                              Luke Romano:
                              Sam Whitelock (Could take up one-year extension)

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                              @sparky said in 2020 All Blacks Squad:

                              Richie Mo'unga currently looks like the first-choice First-Five for 2019:

                              Still unclear what is going to happen to the following All Blacks whose deals run out in 2019.

                              Brodie Retallick:
                              Jack Goodhue:
                              Beauden Barrett:
                              Jordie Barrett:
                              Sonny Bill Williams:
                              Te Toiroa Tahuriorangi:
                              Kane Hames:
                              Shannon Frizell:
                              Waisake Naholo:
                              Matt Todd:
                              Luke Romano:
                              Sam Whitelock (Could take up one-year extension)

                              You mean the broken guy who pretty much played like shit when he actually did take the field ?

                              As always I'm sure they'll pull out all the stops and cater for all his needs.

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                              • TimT Tim

                                @Chris Yep, only a one year extension.

                                https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2018/07/ardie-savea-jordie-barrett-re-sign-with-nz-rugby-for-2019.html

                                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12091127

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                                So Jordie only took up a 1 year contract because he wants game time at 12? But Laumape is in such good form it seems unlikely he'll get much more this year or any next year if he signs on again. But he also says he won't play for another SR team. What's his options then? Stick with the Canes and play out of his favoured position? Or head overseas at such a young age?

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                                • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                  So Jordie only took up a 1 year contract because he wants game time at 12? But Laumape is in such good form it seems unlikely he'll get much more this year or any next year if he signs on again. But he also says he won't play for another SR team. What's his options then? Stick with the Canes and play out of his favoured position? Or head overseas at such a young age?

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                                  @Yeetyaah Or move to the Crusaders and try to get his hands on Crotty's vacant jersey and play in the same team as his other brother.

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                                  • StargazerS Stargazer

                                    @Yeetyaah Or move to the Crusaders and try to get his hands on Crotty's vacant jersey and play in the same team as his other brother.

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                                    @Stargazer yeah I'd say he's better off switching teams but I'm pretty sure he's quite adamant at not switching.

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                                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                                      @Canes4life Geez, Toala is only just 20 years old, has played 4 Mitre 10 Cup games, hasn't played a single SR game yet, and you already call him average? He's a huge prospect! The question is, will he get the opportunities to grow and develop as a SR player, or will he waste his time at the Canes and only watch on from the stands every week? Like a few other players ...

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                                      @Stargazer probably more underwhelming is the phrase I should of used. I actually like the look of the kid after seeing him in that pre season game but will he become just another P Umaga Jensen or J Lowe and get next to no game time because of guys like Tiatia - who in my opinion just seems to be a bit average for Super Rugby.

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                                      • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                        @Stargazer yeah I'd say he's better off switching teams but I'm pretty sure he's quite adamant at not switching.

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                                        @Yeetyaah he's adamant on being a Cane so I will be very suprised if he moved. I've mentioned this many times but will say it again, if the Canes want to win games then keep picking Laumape at 12, if they want to win championships they need to pick J Barrett at 12 IMO.

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          @Yeetyaah he's adamant on being a Cane so I will be very suprised if he moved. I've mentioned this many times but will say it again, if the Canes want to win games then keep picking Laumape at 12, if they want to win championships they need to pick J Barrett at 12 IMO.

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                                          @Canes4life I'd also be surprised if he went to another NZ team. But isn't he unproven in SR at 12 compared to Laumape?

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