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So now that everyone has seen it ( or can stay away from this thread, it's not that fucken hard )
How epic was all of that ?
I never thought I'd end up feeling sorry for Varys. Harsh from Dany.
Some poignant moments from the Lannister brothers.
Plot armour saved Euron Greyjoy brilliantly on the Dragons first charge.
How many innocent people died due to Danys rampage ? by christ she's an absolute bitch.
I ended up feeling a bit sorry for Cercei whilst developing hatred for Dany.
Hound vs Ser Gregor ? fucken outstanding fight, I like how the latter dispatched the advisor ( name escapes me ) so ruthlessly. RIP Hound. You were the man.
Jaime Lannister vs Greyjoy was so convenient and contrived but fuck man, make sure the prick is dead !
So much to tidy up next week.........
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@MN5 said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
So now that everyone has seen it ( or can stay away from this thread, it's not that fucken hard )
How epic was all of that ?
I never thought I'd end up feeling sorry for Varys. Harsh from Dany. Not harsh, he was a traitor, but he was also right!
Some poignant moments from the Lannister brothers. Yeah, sadly Tyrion's been a bloody moron for a while, but at least he's not a monster
Plot armour saved Euron Greyjoy brilliantly on the Dragons first charge. Meh on that, his battle with Jamie pointless, in fact he's been a pathetic cut down Jack Sparrow throughout.
How many innocent people died due to Danys rampage ? by christ she's an absolute bitch. I was expecting the Mad Queen, but not so mad! Her arc is great, all that build up, and she just turns out to be the worst Targyrion. She also, finally, worked out how to use a dragon - pity it was mostly against a few hundred thousand innocents!
I ended up feeling a bit sorry for Cercei whilst developing hatred for Dany. Nah Cersei got a better death than she deserved, with Jamie. I feel sorry for Brienne
Hound vs Ser Gregor ? fucken outstanding fight, I like how the latter dispatched the advisor ( name escapes me ) so ruthlessly. RIP Hound. You were the man. Best bit was the Maester getting squished, but also Hound just letting Cersei go - doesn't give a fcuk
Jaime Lannister vs Greyjoy was so convenient and contrived but fuck man, make sure the prick is dead ! yeah wasted fight and character - the book Euron is sooooo cool
So much to tidy up next week.........
Yeah where do they start? Really Arya to gank Dany? Dany + Dragon vs the rest of the 7 kingdoms? Or she takes the rulership and the wheel is well and truly not broken? Maybe she'll have a guilt trip and top herself!?
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Just saw the very short preview clip - man those unsullied (and Dothraki) are reproducing at a prodigious rate after the Long Night, esp as they're Eunuchs! I realise in the show they said 'half lost' but what was on screen was closer to 90% lost.
She's gone full Adolf
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@Machpants said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
Just saw the very short preview clip - man those unsullied (and Dothraki) are reproducing at a prodigious rate after the Long Night, esp as they're Eunuchs! I realise in the show they said 'half lost' but what was on screen was closer to 90% lost.
She's gone full Adolf
It is a bit weird her 'madness' yes she has executed (and threatened to execute) people, with fire. No more than Jon or any other ruler has done. She's spent her whole arc freeing/saving common people, she even locked up her dragons about the possibility one killed a child. She's burned traitors or those that don;t bend the knee - so far so middle ages (tho for real hostage taking and/or good conduct agreements were far far more common than Fantasy). Then, one little click - she burns them all, man woman child. And it seems that it may well have been preplanned, to ignore the bells? Her Dad was building for a long time into his madness, and even his final bit was he thought he'd come out of the ashes as a dragon when he was losing everything to the rebellion?
Weird bit of insanity. Made for a good mess tho.
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The writers make a good point, all her close friends and advisers at this stage are either dead or have betrayed here. You could argue they have been restraining her worst instincts up until now.
Looked to me that when they surrendered she considered it then decided to take vengeance on the city. So a snap decision, quite mad.
Brilliant television!
I pick Jon Snow to off the mad queen.
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If she had gone direct to the Red Keep, even killing on the way, I could've OK'd it. But she hasn't had advisers holding back her instincts. Most of the good saving stuff she does has been her idea, and against her advisers wishes. But really it's just lazy, needed more build up - but as you say was good TV to make a mess that will be fun (I hope) to clean up!
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@Machpants said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
If she had gone direct to the Red Keep, even killing on the way, I could've OK'd it. But she hasn't had advisers holding back her instincts. Most of the good saving stuff she does has been her idea, and against her advisers wishes. But really it's just lazy, needed more build up - but as you say was good TV to make a mess that will be fun (I hope) to clean up!
Yeah she coulda flown over and chargrilled cercei easily.....
That one dragons kill count would be in the thousands.
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@Machpants said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
If she had gone direct to the Red Keep, even killing on the way, I could've OK'd it. But she hasn't had advisers holding back her instincts. Most of the good saving stuff she does has been her idea, and against her advisers wishes. But really it's just lazy, needed more build up - but as you say was good TV to make a mess that will be fun (I hope) to clean up!
Nah, she has been talked out all sorts of stupid stuff. Her instinct is to lash out.
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@Machpants said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@MN5 Yup pretty useless when she had 3 or 2, bring her down to one and she smokes everyone. It's all very lazy, but hey, that's all we can expect sadly
Ok we get it you dont like the series anymore, but you this latest criticism just shows you are watching the series at a very facile level, her descent into madness has been handled really well and signaled brilliantly. The rest of the series has so much to criticise, but I think now you are just trying to hard to be negative now.
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@Machpants said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@MN5 Yup pretty useless when she had 3 or 2, bring her down to one and she smokes everyone. It's all very lazy, but hey, that's all we can expect sadly
It irks me so much how easily the one last week bit the dust considering the carnage it’s brother/sister or whatever caused in the latest episode.
The biggest tinarse shot since Ramsay shot one of the Starks from miles away with his bow and arrow.
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Greyworm was on a "nah fuck these guys" revenge mission too.
What's the point of killing her off now? Crazy bitch has fucked everything royally up. And she has a dragon that's going be irked if mum gets offed.
And she's backed by a big and quite effective army, who are loyal as shit.
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@mariner4life said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
Greyworm was on a "nah fuck these guys" revenge mission too.
What's the point of killing her off now? Crazy bitch has fucked everything royally up. And she has a dragon that's going be irked if mum gets offed.
And she's backed by a big and quite effective army, who are loyal as shit.
Speaking of revenge if the Hound was so hell bent on it why didn't he have a go at his big bro when they met face to face last season ?
In any case that fight was probably the most epic duel the show has seen in my opinion.
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This article pretty well describes my thoughts (except I thought Clegane bowl was good)
4 winners and 10 losers from Game of Thrones’ next-to-last episode, “The Bells”
There are few winners and many losers in a grim installment that is satisfying until you think about it for a bit.
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@Machpants said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
I'm wondering if she'll be sitting on the throne, all smug and powerful, everyone around her either dead or totally dominated.
Then the Iron Bank turn up with the combined crowns debt. That'd be bitter sweet
Yeah. The smug fucker from the bank will have hedged his debts. Don’t forget the money Cersei used was stolen from Dorne and the bank know that.
Gonna cost heaps to rebuild KL. May as well write that off as collateral.I get the idea of Jon kills Dani, but that can’t end things (without another leap of faith from the viewers). Not while there is a dragon, Dothraki and unsullied around.
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I thought it was a good episode, but, there's always a but, I found two things a bit strange, one obviously was how good the dragon was this week - for most of the early part of that scene I thought there were two dragons and that crazy lady's dragon was drawing the fire of the scorpions while Jon Snows dragon was doing the clearing out, but it was just the one. Secondly, I know Missandei was killed last week and that would send anyone not gay off the deep end, but the Unsullied are this uber disciplined force yet Grey Worm goes completely out of character and they start massacring the city and then the northern soldiers join in despite Jon trying to stop them.
I don't have an issue with her turning crazy, it's been hinted at enough.
I'm actually a lot more interested in the final episode now than I was previously. I have no idea what they'll do but here's my prediction: Sansa to win the GoT after John heroically protects her/takes out crazy lady (or Arya takes her out).
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@Machpants where in Kings Landing is the throne...destroyed under some rubble somewhere?
Crazy episode.
