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The writers make a good point, all her close friends and advisers at this stage are either dead or have betrayed here. You could argue they have been restraining her worst instincts up until now.
Looked to me that when they surrendered she considered it then decided to take vengeance on the city. So a snap decision, quite mad.
Brilliant television!
I pick Jon Snow to off the mad queen.
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If she had gone direct to the Red Keep, even killing on the way, I could've OK'd it. But she hasn't had advisers holding back her instincts. Most of the good saving stuff she does has been her idea, and against her advisers wishes. But really it's just lazy, needed more build up - but as you say was good TV to make a mess that will be fun (I hope) to clean up!
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@Machpants said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
If she had gone direct to the Red Keep, even killing on the way, I could've OK'd it. But she hasn't had advisers holding back her instincts. Most of the good saving stuff she does has been her idea, and against her advisers wishes. But really it's just lazy, needed more build up - but as you say was good TV to make a mess that will be fun (I hope) to clean up!
Yeah she coulda flown over and chargrilled cercei easily.....
That one dragons kill count would be in the thousands.
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@Machpants said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
If she had gone direct to the Red Keep, even killing on the way, I could've OK'd it. But she hasn't had advisers holding back her instincts. Most of the good saving stuff she does has been her idea, and against her advisers wishes. But really it's just lazy, needed more build up - but as you say was good TV to make a mess that will be fun (I hope) to clean up!
Nah, she has been talked out all sorts of stupid stuff. Her instinct is to lash out.
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@Machpants said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@MN5 Yup pretty useless when she had 3 or 2, bring her down to one and she smokes everyone. It's all very lazy, but hey, that's all we can expect sadly
Ok we get it you dont like the series anymore, but you this latest criticism just shows you are watching the series at a very facile level, her descent into madness has been handled really well and signaled brilliantly. The rest of the series has so much to criticise, but I think now you are just trying to hard to be negative now.
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@Machpants said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
@MN5 Yup pretty useless when she had 3 or 2, bring her down to one and she smokes everyone. It's all very lazy, but hey, that's all we can expect sadly
It irks me so much how easily the one last week bit the dust considering the carnage it’s brother/sister or whatever caused in the latest episode.
The biggest tinarse shot since Ramsay shot one of the Starks from miles away with his bow and arrow.
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Greyworm was on a "nah fuck these guys" revenge mission too.
What's the point of killing her off now? Crazy bitch has fucked everything royally up. And she has a dragon that's going be irked if mum gets offed.
And she's backed by a big and quite effective army, who are loyal as shit.
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@mariner4life said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
Greyworm was on a "nah fuck these guys" revenge mission too.
What's the point of killing her off now? Crazy bitch has fucked everything royally up. And she has a dragon that's going be irked if mum gets offed.
And she's backed by a big and quite effective army, who are loyal as shit.
Speaking of revenge if the Hound was so hell bent on it why didn't he have a go at his big bro when they met face to face last season ?
In any case that fight was probably the most epic duel the show has seen in my opinion.
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This article pretty well describes my thoughts (except I thought Clegane bowl was good)
4 winners and 10 losers from Game of Thrones’ next-to-last episode, “The Bells”
There are few winners and many losers in a grim installment that is satisfying until you think about it for a bit.
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@Machpants said in GOT - there will be spoilers:
I'm wondering if she'll be sitting on the throne, all smug and powerful, everyone around her either dead or totally dominated.
Then the Iron Bank turn up with the combined crowns debt. That'd be bitter sweet
Yeah. The smug fucker from the bank will have hedged his debts. Don’t forget the money Cersei used was stolen from Dorne and the bank know that.
Gonna cost heaps to rebuild KL. May as well write that off as collateral.I get the idea of Jon kills Dani, but that can’t end things (without another leap of faith from the viewers). Not while there is a dragon, Dothraki and unsullied around.
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I thought it was a good episode, but, there's always a but, I found two things a bit strange, one obviously was how good the dragon was this week - for most of the early part of that scene I thought there were two dragons and that crazy lady's dragon was drawing the fire of the scorpions while Jon Snows dragon was doing the clearing out, but it was just the one. Secondly, I know Missandei was killed last week and that would send anyone not gay off the deep end, but the Unsullied are this uber disciplined force yet Grey Worm goes completely out of character and they start massacring the city and then the northern soldiers join in despite Jon trying to stop them.
I don't have an issue with her turning crazy, it's been hinted at enough.
I'm actually a lot more interested in the final episode now than I was previously. I have no idea what they'll do but here's my prediction: Sansa to win the GoT after John heroically protects her/takes out crazy lady (or Arya takes her out).
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@Machpants where in Kings Landing is the throne...destroyed under some rubble somewhere?
Crazy episode.
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I enjoyed it but just like endgame people's strengths vary depending on the plot. Euron could hit the left tit of a blow fly with his Scorpion last week. This week can't hit a dragon with loads of the bloody things. Why did she wait to destroy the iron fleet. She could have done that last week and saved her fleet and her pal.
We had a whole bunch of things hinting that dragons are not the be all and end all of war fare. Except this week they totally are unstoppable. Why even bother with the ground army.
Anyway John to kill Danny his true love or some shit not that you'd know it from his acting.
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@Nepia Grey Worm loved her the most, his reaction made complete sense. His queen was still attacking and he wanted them to pay for her death.
The episode would have been better if Drogon (which is the biggest dragon) had destroyed the fleet last week. That way they kill the dragon with a surprise shot, but lose the fleet.
The way they did it this week she’s learned to fly high and low to screw up their aiming, but it was too black and white. I would have also killed Euron last week.
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Plenty of epic moments, Clegane Bowl (revel of The Mountains face had a Darth Vader/Anakin Skywalker at the end of Episode VI feel to it)
Dany laying waste to Kings Landing, we all saw it coming but it was brutal, so brutal.
Guess we can blame Missandei for that??
