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  • chimoausC Offline
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    Does there have to be a happy ending with the right person on the throne? Or could Dany take the throne as the Mad Queen and everyone just has to deal with it? Perhaps the morale of the throne is that it perpetually fucks people over a bit like the One Ring to rule them all.

    The fan favourite would be Mr Snow to man up and take out the Mad Queen and then rule the kingdoms as a just and honourable king.

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    It's supposed to be a bitter sweet ending, with no Lord of the Rings type good guys win, if it sticks to the book plans talked about by GRR. Imo Jon killing his love and having to take the throne, which he didn't want, is not a happy ending. Especially as he's as good a real ruler as his 'Dad' was, an honour obsessed fool. It's not like taking the Iron throne of what's left of the seven kingdoms will be a fun job!

    But I really don't know, that's what keeps me watching, DnD's priority, aside from big set pieces, is subverting everything. Even when it doesn't make much sense

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    Of the main houses there will quite possibility be no Lannisters, maybe half a Targaryen, one Baratheon, apparently a new Martell/Tyrell, one Greyjoy and two to two and a half Starks. Oh, and an Arryn I think.

    My money is on Dany and the dwarf both dying, the permanently gobsmacked Stark exiling himself north to find his dog.
    Bran, Yara and Gendry won't want the throne.
    I doubt anyone will try to rule over everyone else after seeing the destruction from 'the game'.
    Sansa will rule over the north, Yara the west, the new dude the south and Gendry the east.

    And the final clip will be one of those white walker babies opening their eyes.

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    I see there are 'fan theories' (which have all been arse thus far) claiming LIttle Finger is in fact still alive...if so, maybe he will sweep in the back door and claim the Throne...:smiling_face_with_open_mouth_closed_eyes:

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    @taniwharugby said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    I see there are 'fan theories' (which have all been arse thus far) claiming LIttle Finger is in fact still alive...if so, maybe he will sweep in the back door and claim the Throne...:smiling_face_with_open_mouth_closed_eyes:

    I hope not, fucken hate that fluffybunny.

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    @Crucial That sounds logical, Snow might say the Throne has been bad since the beginning and causes nothing but bloodshed so he may destroy the throne and as you say each kingdom will rule itself. However the show is called the "Game" of thrones so perhaps someone has to win the game.

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    @chimoaus said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Crucial That sounds logical, Snow might say the Throne has been bad since the beginning and causes nothing but bloodshed so he may destroy the throne and as you say each kingdom will rule itself. However the show is called the "Game" of thrones so perhaps someone has to win the game.

    I guess there's no rule that there has to be one ruler. The Northerners clearly don't want a Southern ruler anymore and the other regions probably couldn't give a fark either. Wonder if that's sustainable though. What kind of a power base would Bronn or Gendry have? And what's going on in Dorne? Talk about a waste of time.

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    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @chimoaus said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Crucial That sounds logical, Snow might say the Throne has been bad since the beginning and causes nothing but bloodshed so he may destroy the throne and as you say each kingdom will rule itself. However the show is called the "Game" of thrones so perhaps someone has to win the game.

    I guess there's no rule that there has to be one ruler. The Northerners clearly don't want a Southern ruler anymore and the other regions probably couldn't give a fark either. Wonder if that's sustainable though. What kind of a power base would Bronn or Gendry have? And what's going on in Dorne? Talk about a waste of time.

    Used to be 7 seperate Kingdoms until Aegon the Conqueror came over with his dragons and conquered Westeros 300 years earlier.
    I suspect it will go back to seperate kingdoms again

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    @Virgil said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Rancid-Schnitzel said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @chimoaus said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    @Crucial That sounds logical, Snow might say the Throne has been bad since the beginning and causes nothing but bloodshed so he may destroy the throne and as you say each kingdom will rule itself. However the show is called the "Game" of thrones so perhaps someone has to win the game.

    I guess there's no rule that there has to be one ruler. The Northerners clearly don't want a Southern ruler anymore and the other regions probably couldn't give a fark either. Wonder if that's sustainable though. What kind of a power base would Bronn or Gendry have? And what's going on in Dorne? Talk about a waste of time.

    Used to be 7 seperate Kingdoms until Aegon the Conqueror came over with his dragons and conquered Westeros 300 years earlier.
    I suspect it will go back to seperate kingdoms again

    Yes, no S. The question is whether the kingdoms can survive as separate entities. The North, Vale and Riverlands seem ok (although I'm not sure what the status is without the Frey's), but there appear to be massive power vaccums everywhere else. You'd imagine there would be a massive disparity in wealth and resources.

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    Is that accurate? Have we talked about this in terms of Varys betraying Dany?

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    @Paekakboyz said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

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    Is that accurate? Have we talked about this in terms of Varys betraying Dany?

    Yeah reckon he was tying to poison her.
    Back in season 1 when Ned was investigating the death of Lord Arran (King Robs murderer Hand) and poison was talked about, Pycell said poison is the weapon of woman and Eunuchs
    Then made the point that Varys is a Eunuch

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    @Virgil heard the bit about her not eating, but missed the poison implication. Once you hit that stage of betrayal you gotta go. Just unfortunate that he was right!

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    @Paekakboyz like Cercei I actually felt sorry for Varys at the end. Great writing and acting.

    Never felt the least bit bad for Joffrey, Ramsay or Littlefinger though.

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    @MN5 that moment with Tyrion and Varys was really good to. The two characters that kept Tyrion in the game both die due to his actions in that last episode. Varys via BBQ, and it never felt like Jamie was going to make it once he was freed to get to KL. Although I did wonder if that was going to be the end of Tyrion too.

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    Can’t believe that episode is getting panned. Straight into number 2 for me. Fucking fantastic.

    Big ending for Arya coming up. The focus on her for the last few minutes must mean something. Kill the Dragon?

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    @MajorRage said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    Can’t believe that episode is getting panned. Straight into number 2 for me. Fucking fantastic.

    Big ending for Arya coming up. The focus on her for the last few minutes must mean something. Kill the Dragon?

    I reckon Aryas story is over as I think others have mentioned. Showing her was more for us to have someone to relate to as she was running from the destruction.

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    Yeah but how many times did she get just about killed and knocked unconscious? Tedious by the end, that sort of Hollywood stuff is amongst the reasons the ep is getting panned. It was an excellent idea to have her in there to show the suffering, but it went on too long with too many miraculous escapes.

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  • Chris B.C Offline
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    @taniwharugby said in GOT - there will be spoilers:

    I see there are 'fan theories' (which have all been arse thus far) claiming LIttle Finger is in fact still alive...if so, maybe he will sweep in the back door and claim the Throne...:smiling_face_with_open_mouth_closed_eyes:

    Can't see how he could be - he died on the hall floor in front of everyone.

    Unless Bran is going to have a Pamela Ewing moment, "Oh, it was all just a dream!" 🙂

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    @Chris-B yeah cos death has stopped others from re-entering the game, sheesh!

    While a pretty wild theory, it is a theory none the less, saw one talking about him with him having one of those tokens like Arya....

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