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2019 Cricket ODI WC

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  • PaekakboyzP Paekakboyz

    @westcoastie if we can get into their tail within the next 30-40 runs we've got a sniff of holding them under 300. If...

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    Scratch that. Leg stump city. Our bowling has been very average

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      Here comes 400 😫

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        Lockie, good god....0/86 off 10 and an entire extra over of extras (5W, 1NB).

        And he's not the worst bowler by a long way!

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          Made for grim viewing. Even if we chase this down it's still a shithouse bowling effort. Zero penetration or ability to execute... presuming they actually had a bowling plan!

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            After watching 20 overs of that effort from Ferguson and Henry I'm not saying sanpapering the ball is the right thing to do, but...

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              Ahh well that performance should help with taking the edge off any excessive amounts of optimism.

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                So we have an answer to how Matt Henry will go in English conditions...

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @Godder said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                  @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                  @Godder said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                  Is there still room on the Warriors Black Caps bandwagon?

                  Unless you can provide at least ten years of fern related Black Caps support then no. Go and become a fan of Team NZ or Lydia Ko when she does well instead.

                  Sweet, sorted! I joined in Feb 2008 and have supported the Black Caps since then.

                  I'm still gonna need evidence. Loads of posts talking up Jesse Ryder as potentially our best batsman ever will be a good start. Also chronic whinging about Brad Haddin as the worst human being since Hitler won't go amiss either.

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                  @MN5 but the Fern records don't go back that far! It's a conspiracy... Also, Haddin deserves his place in infamy, but let's not forget Greg Dyer here.

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                  • westcoastieW westcoastie

                    West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
                    thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

                    Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

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                    @westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                    West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
                    thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

                    Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

                    Did McMillan undeliver?

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                      I guess the good news that's come out of that game is that Little Kane and Blundell have got some batting form going into the first CWC game - as, probably, has Rossco.

                      We probably got some just desserts in terms of our lack of preparation going into this game. If you look at the runs scored by our players since March (including this game) in any form of cricket it makes sad reading.

                      Guptill 108
                      Nicholls 30
                      Kane 294
                      Ross 250
                      Blundell 207
                      Neesham 74
                      CDG 26
                      Santner 51

                      In contrast, Shai Hopes has scored almost 600 runs in May playing warm up games for the CWC.

                      I guess our guys are unlikely to run out of steam and if we can muddle through and win our first three games vs Sri Lanka , Bangladesh and Afghanistan we have time to find some form.

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                        West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
                        thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

                        Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

                        Did McMillan undeliver?

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                        @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                        @westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                        West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
                        thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

                        Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

                        Did McMillan undeliver?

                        His averages aren't too bad...

                        MAcca.JPG

                        I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                          @westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                          West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
                          thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

                          Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

                          Did McMillan undeliver?

                          His averages aren't too bad...

                          MAcca.JPG

                          I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment

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                          @canefan said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                          @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                          @westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                          West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
                          thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

                          Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

                          Did McMillan undeliver?

                          His averages aren't too bad...

                          MAcca.JPG

                          I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment

                          Pretty poor ODI stats for someone who’s game woulda suited it one would have thought

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                          • MN5M MN5

                            @canefan said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                            @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                            @westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                            West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
                            thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

                            Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

                            Did McMillan undeliver?

                            His averages aren't too bad...

                            MAcca.JPG

                            I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment

                            Pretty poor ODI stats for someone who’s game woulda suited it one would have thought

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                            canefan
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                            @MN5 Oh yeah. Test average was ok. But I agree ODI average not good. I remember him being pretty brash, almost like a prototypical McCullum but nowhere near as good.

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                            • canefanC canefan

                              @MN5 Oh yeah. Test average was ok. But I agree ODI average not good. I remember him being pretty brash, almost like a prototypical McCullum but nowhere near as good.

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                              @canefan I think he also tried to force the tempo of the game a lot, and that often meant him taking more risks. Did love his bowling aggression though, had the attitude of a guy sending them down at 140km/hr+ lol

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                                @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                @westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
                                thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

                                Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

                                Did McMillan undeliver?

                                His averages aren't too bad...

                                MAcca.JPG

                                I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment

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                                @canefan said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                @westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
                                thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

                                Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

                                Did McMillan undeliver?

                                His averages aren't too bad...

                                MAcca.JPG

                                I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment

                                I think more of a feeling that when we needed him to stand up, mostly he didn't aside from the occasional belter and the fact he was occasionally brilliant left me feeling like maybe he could've been more brilliant more often.

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                                  Balls at this WC, dukes or kookaburra, anyone know?

                                  Dukes would be better for us

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                                  • SiamS Siam

                                    Balls at this WC, dukes or kookaburra, anyone know?

                                    Dukes would be better for us

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                                    @Siam

                                    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/starc-back-in-the-swing-as-australia-prepares-for-world-cup-warm-up-20190521-p51plv.html

                                    But the pace ace with the high-armed action expects to be back to his best for the World Cup defence where the Kookaburra ball will be used.
                                    
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                                    • SiamS Siam

                                      Balls at this WC, dukes or kookaburra, anyone know?

                                      Dukes would be better for us

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                                      @Siam pretty sure I heard somewhere Kookaburras (maybe it was the previous post by KiwiMurph haha)

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                                        that was more of a cool down match than a warm up for the Black Caps, even would have fancied my chances scoring a few off them. Well done to the Windies though, they could be a bit of a dark horse in this tournament, would have to check cricinfo but I suspect they have a pretty good record in England, if records mean anything. What would be the Black caps plan - bat first at all costs or prefer to chase?

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                                        • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                          So we have an answer to how Matt Henry will go in English conditions...

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                                          @Donsteppa said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                          So we have an answer to how Matt Henry will go in English conditions...

                                          He'll be pleased that's not an official ODI - otherwise he'd be holding third spot in the "most expensive 10 over spell ever".

                                          Worst is 0/113 by an Australian called Mick Lewis, whom I can't recall and not surprisingly, since he didn't play again after that.

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