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2019 Cricket ODI WC

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  • PaekakboyzP Offline
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    Paekakboyz
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    Made for grim viewing. Even if we chase this down it's still a shithouse bowling effort. Zero penetration or ability to execute... presuming they actually had a bowling plan!

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      #168

      After watching 20 overs of that effort from Ferguson and Henry I'm not saying sanpapering the ball is the right thing to do, but...

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        JK
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        Ahh well that performance should help with taking the edge off any excessive amounts of optimism.

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          So we have an answer to how Matt Henry will go in English conditions...

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          • MN5M MN5

            @Godder said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

            @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

            @Godder said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

            Is there still room on the Warriors Black Caps bandwagon?

            Unless you can provide at least ten years of fern related Black Caps support then no. Go and become a fan of Team NZ or Lydia Ko when she does well instead.

            Sweet, sorted! I joined in Feb 2008 and have supported the Black Caps since then.

            I'm still gonna need evidence. Loads of posts talking up Jesse Ryder as potentially our best batsman ever will be a good start. Also chronic whinging about Brad Haddin as the worst human being since Hitler won't go amiss either.

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            #171

            @MN5 but the Fern records don't go back that far! It's a conspiracy... Also, Haddin deserves his place in infamy, but let's not forget Greg Dyer here.

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            • westcoastieW westcoastie

              West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
              thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

              Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

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              #172

              @westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

              West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
              thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

              Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

              Did McMillan undeliver?

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                I guess the good news that's come out of that game is that Little Kane and Blundell have got some batting form going into the first CWC game - as, probably, has Rossco.

                We probably got some just desserts in terms of our lack of preparation going into this game. If you look at the runs scored by our players since March (including this game) in any form of cricket it makes sad reading.

                Guptill 108
                Nicholls 30
                Kane 294
                Ross 250
                Blundell 207
                Neesham 74
                CDG 26
                Santner 51

                In contrast, Shai Hopes has scored almost 600 runs in May playing warm up games for the CWC.

                I guess our guys are unlikely to run out of steam and if we can muddle through and win our first three games vs Sri Lanka , Bangladesh and Afghanistan we have time to find some form.

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                  West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
                  thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

                  Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

                  Did McMillan undeliver?

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                  #174

                  @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                  @westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                  West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
                  thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

                  Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

                  Did McMillan undeliver?

                  His averages aren't too bad...

                  MAcca.JPG

                  I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                    @westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                    West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
                    thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

                    Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

                    Did McMillan undeliver?

                    His averages aren't too bad...

                    MAcca.JPG

                    I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment

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                    MN5
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                    #175

                    @canefan said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                    @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                    @westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                    West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
                    thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

                    Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

                    Did McMillan undeliver?

                    His averages aren't too bad...

                    MAcca.JPG

                    I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment

                    Pretty poor ODI stats for someone who’s game woulda suited it one would have thought

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                    • MN5M MN5

                      @canefan said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                      @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                      @westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                      West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
                      thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

                      Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

                      Did McMillan undeliver?

                      His averages aren't too bad...

                      MAcca.JPG

                      I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment

                      Pretty poor ODI stats for someone who’s game woulda suited it one would have thought

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                      canefan
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                      #176

                      @MN5 Oh yeah. Test average was ok. But I agree ODI average not good. I remember him being pretty brash, almost like a prototypical McCullum but nowhere near as good.

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                      • canefanC canefan

                        @MN5 Oh yeah. Test average was ok. But I agree ODI average not good. I remember him being pretty brash, almost like a prototypical McCullum but nowhere near as good.

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                        Paekakboyz
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                        #177

                        @canefan I think he also tried to force the tempo of the game a lot, and that often meant him taking more risks. Did love his bowling aggression though, had the attitude of a guy sending them down at 140km/hr+ lol

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                          @westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                          West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
                          thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

                          Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

                          Did McMillan undeliver?

                          His averages aren't too bad...

                          MAcca.JPG

                          I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment

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                          westcoastie
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                          #178

                          @canefan said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                          @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                          @westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                          West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
                          thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

                          Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

                          Did McMillan undeliver?

                          His averages aren't too bad...

                          MAcca.JPG

                          I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment

                          I think more of a feeling that when we needed him to stand up, mostly he didn't aside from the occasional belter and the fact he was occasionally brilliant left me feeling like maybe he could've been more brilliant more often.

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                            Balls at this WC, dukes or kookaburra, anyone know?

                            Dukes would be better for us

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                            • SiamS Siam

                              Balls at this WC, dukes or kookaburra, anyone know?

                              Dukes would be better for us

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                              @Siam

                              https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/starc-back-in-the-swing-as-australia-prepares-for-world-cup-warm-up-20190521-p51plv.html

                              But the pace ace with the high-armed action expects to be back to his best for the World Cup defence where the Kookaburra ball will be used.
                              
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                              • SiamS Siam

                                Balls at this WC, dukes or kookaburra, anyone know?

                                Dukes would be better for us

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                                Nevorian
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                                #181

                                @Siam pretty sure I heard somewhere Kookaburras (maybe it was the previous post by KiwiMurph haha)

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                                  Nevorian
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                                  that was more of a cool down match than a warm up for the Black Caps, even would have fancied my chances scoring a few off them. Well done to the Windies though, they could be a bit of a dark horse in this tournament, would have to check cricinfo but I suspect they have a pretty good record in England, if records mean anything. What would be the Black caps plan - bat first at all costs or prefer to chase?

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                                  • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                                    So we have an answer to how Matt Henry will go in English conditions...

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                                    Chris B.
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                                    @Donsteppa said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                    So we have an answer to how Matt Henry will go in English conditions...

                                    He'll be pleased that's not an official ODI - otherwise he'd be holding third spot in the "most expensive 10 over spell ever".

                                    Worst is 0/113 by an Australian called Mick Lewis, whom I can't recall and not surprisingly, since he didn't play again after that.

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @Donsteppa said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                      So we have an answer to how Matt Henry will go in English conditions...

                                      He'll be pleased that's not an official ODI - otherwise he'd be holding third spot in the "most expensive 10 over spell ever".

                                      Worst is 0/113 by an Australian called Mick Lewis, whom I can't recall and not surprisingly, since he didn't play again after that.

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                                      @Chris-B one of my good friends is Mick. Great bloke. I always point out ( on his behalf because he doesn't seem to give a shit) that Ponting didn't bowl out his premier bowler that day, Lee, against a rampant herschelle πŸ™‚

                                      While I'm sticking up for me mate, who doesn't need it and would never ask for it, here he is securing a win against us. We needed a paltry, gettable 6 of the last over to win 😁

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                                      • SiamS Siam

                                        @Chris-B one of my good friends is Mick. Great bloke. I always point out ( on his behalf because he doesn't seem to give a shit) that Ponting didn't bowl out his premier bowler that day, Lee, against a rampant herschelle πŸ™‚

                                        While I'm sticking up for me mate, who doesn't need it and would never ask for it, here he is securing a win against us. We needed a paltry, gettable 6 of the last over to win 😁

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                                        @Siam He might have taken a record for the longest six balls with that over, as well - if he'd needed them.

                                        McCullum and Vettori batting needing six off the last over - a few years later they'd have done it at a walk.

                                        And Michael Clarke largely derailed us with a run out. Having watched that has set him back another five years before I'm willing to countenance that he's not a fluffybunny of the first water.

                                        In fact, you should be bloody banned for posting that! πŸ™‚

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                                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                          @Siam He might have taken a record for the longest six balls with that over, as well - if he'd needed them.

                                          McCullum and Vettori batting needing six off the last over - a few years later they'd have done it at a walk.

                                          And Michael Clarke largely derailed us with a run out. Having watched that has set him back another five years before I'm willing to countenance that he's not a fluffybunny of the first water.

                                          In fact, you should be bloody banned for posting that! πŸ™‚

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                                          Siam
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                                          @Chris-B hell of a run out wasn't it.

                                          I'll take my banning with the grace of an ANZAC 😁

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