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2019 Cricket ODI WC

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  • canefanC canefan

    @MN5 Oh yeah. Test average was ok. But I agree ODI average not good. I remember him being pretty brash, almost like a prototypical McCullum but nowhere near as good.

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    @canefan I think he also tried to force the tempo of the game a lot, and that often meant him taking more risks. Did love his bowling aggression though, had the attitude of a guy sending them down at 140km/hr+ lol

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    • canefanC canefan

      @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

      @westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

      West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
      thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

      Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

      Did McMillan undeliver?

      His averages aren't too bad...

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      I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment

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      @canefan said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

      @MN5 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

      @westcoastie said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

      West Indies post a very chaseable 153 off their 20. Wait. Its a 50 over game? goddam!
      thank the late Martin Crowe that this isn't an official ODI, cause we're gonna go for 400+

      Hard to believe its the same bowling line-up sans Southee that ripped India, just no obvious plan or clue on how to deal with the Windies onslaught - serving up complete garbage - but then the coverage panned to our coaching crew, and you realise that Luke Ronchi and Craig McMillan are on staff - two gents with way more talent than I, but mostly under-delivered as cricketers and prone to rash and stupid in-game actions - and its all starts to make sense.

      Did McMillan undeliver?

      His averages aren't too bad...

      MAcca.JPG

      I often felt he didn't make the most of his talent. More a feeling than a cold hard quantitative assessment

      I think more of a feeling that when we needed him to stand up, mostly he didn't aside from the occasional belter and the fact he was occasionally brilliant left me feeling like maybe he could've been more brilliant more often.

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        Balls at this WC, dukes or kookaburra, anyone know?

        Dukes would be better for us

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        • SiamS Siam

          Balls at this WC, dukes or kookaburra, anyone know?

          Dukes would be better for us

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          @Siam

          https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/starc-back-in-the-swing-as-australia-prepares-for-world-cup-warm-up-20190521-p51plv.html

          But the pace ace with the high-armed action expects to be back to his best for the World Cup defence where the Kookaburra ball will be used.
          
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          • SiamS Siam

            Balls at this WC, dukes or kookaburra, anyone know?

            Dukes would be better for us

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            #181

            @Siam pretty sure I heard somewhere Kookaburras (maybe it was the previous post by KiwiMurph haha)

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              that was more of a cool down match than a warm up for the Black Caps, even would have fancied my chances scoring a few off them. Well done to the Windies though, they could be a bit of a dark horse in this tournament, would have to check cricinfo but I suspect they have a pretty good record in England, if records mean anything. What would be the Black caps plan - bat first at all costs or prefer to chase?

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              • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

                So we have an answer to how Matt Henry will go in English conditions...

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                @Donsteppa said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                So we have an answer to how Matt Henry will go in English conditions...

                He'll be pleased that's not an official ODI - otherwise he'd be holding third spot in the "most expensive 10 over spell ever".

                Worst is 0/113 by an Australian called Mick Lewis, whom I can't recall and not surprisingly, since he didn't play again after that.

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                • Chris B.C Chris B.

                  @Donsteppa said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                  So we have an answer to how Matt Henry will go in English conditions...

                  He'll be pleased that's not an official ODI - otherwise he'd be holding third spot in the "most expensive 10 over spell ever".

                  Worst is 0/113 by an Australian called Mick Lewis, whom I can't recall and not surprisingly, since he didn't play again after that.

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                  @Chris-B one of my good friends is Mick. Great bloke. I always point out ( on his behalf because he doesn't seem to give a shit) that Ponting didn't bowl out his premier bowler that day, Lee, against a rampant herschelle ๐Ÿ™‚

                  While I'm sticking up for me mate, who doesn't need it and would never ask for it, here he is securing a win against us. We needed a paltry, gettable 6 of the last over to win ๐Ÿ˜

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                  • SiamS Siam

                    @Chris-B one of my good friends is Mick. Great bloke. I always point out ( on his behalf because he doesn't seem to give a shit) that Ponting didn't bowl out his premier bowler that day, Lee, against a rampant herschelle ๐Ÿ™‚

                    While I'm sticking up for me mate, who doesn't need it and would never ask for it, here he is securing a win against us. We needed a paltry, gettable 6 of the last over to win ๐Ÿ˜

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                    @Siam He might have taken a record for the longest six balls with that over, as well - if he'd needed them.

                    McCullum and Vettori batting needing six off the last over - a few years later they'd have done it at a walk.

                    And Michael Clarke largely derailed us with a run out. Having watched that has set him back another five years before I'm willing to countenance that he's not a fluffybunny of the first water.

                    In fact, you should be bloody banned for posting that! ๐Ÿ™‚

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      @Siam He might have taken a record for the longest six balls with that over, as well - if he'd needed them.

                      McCullum and Vettori batting needing six off the last over - a few years later they'd have done it at a walk.

                      And Michael Clarke largely derailed us with a run out. Having watched that has set him back another five years before I'm willing to countenance that he's not a fluffybunny of the first water.

                      In fact, you should be bloody banned for posting that! ๐Ÿ™‚

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                      @Chris-B hell of a run out wasn't it.

                      I'll take my banning with the grace of an ANZAC ๐Ÿ˜

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                        Back on topic, a day before it starts, this world cup has 7 teams that could take it. Windies and SA have the batting and Pakistan at home are worth a cheeky tenner! ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                          Back on topic - I'm wondering who is going to make the XI for NZ's first match.

                          In my mind there's a good case to convert Tom Latham back to being an opener and play both him and Blundell. It's not like Nicholls or Munro has played themselves into compelling form ahead of Latham.

                          Bowling against the Windies was largely a shitshow. I'm inclined to think that Henry may have played himself out of the XI, so maybe we will see: Guptill, Latham, Williamson, Taylor, Blundell, Neesham, CdG, Santner, Southee, Ferguson, Boult.

                          Possibly worth considering Sodhi to take CdG's place - especially if there's any hint that spin might be a good option.

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                          • Chris B.C Chris B.

                            Back on topic - I'm wondering who is going to make the XI for NZ's first match.

                            In my mind there's a good case to convert Tom Latham back to being an opener and play both him and Blundell. It's not like Nicholls or Munro has played themselves into compelling form ahead of Latham.

                            Bowling against the Windies was largely a shitshow. I'm inclined to think that Henry may have played himself out of the XI, so maybe we will see: Guptill, Latham, Williamson, Taylor, Blundell, Neesham, CdG, Santner, Southee, Ferguson, Boult.

                            Possibly worth considering Sodhi to take CdG's place - especially if there's any hint that spin might be a good option.

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                            @Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                            Back on topic - I'm wondering who is going to make the XI for NZ's first match.

                            In my mind there's a good case to convert Tom Latham back to being an opener and play both him and Blundell. It's not like Nicholls or Munro has played themselves into compelling form ahead of Latham.

                            Bowling against the Windies was largely a shitshow. I'm inclined to think that Henry may have played himself out of the XI, so maybe we will see: Guptill, Latham, Williamson, Taylor, Blundell, Neesham, CdG, Santner, Southee, Ferguson, Boult.

                            Possibly worth considering Sodhi to take CdG's place - especially if there's any hint that spin might be a good option.

                            Why would we pick Blundell ahead of Nicholls? Surely Nicholls has established himself in the team. I don't care what he scores in the warm ups. He has earned the right.

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                              Given how bowlers often go for big runs in their 10th it's lucky that Henry only got to bowl 9 ....

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                                @Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                Back on topic - I'm wondering who is going to make the XI for NZ's first match.

                                In my mind there's a good case to convert Tom Latham back to being an opener and play both him and Blundell. It's not like Nicholls or Munro has played themselves into compelling form ahead of Latham.

                                Bowling against the Windies was largely a shitshow. I'm inclined to think that Henry may have played himself out of the XI, so maybe we will see: Guptill, Latham, Williamson, Taylor, Blundell, Neesham, CdG, Santner, Southee, Ferguson, Boult.

                                Possibly worth considering Sodhi to take CdG's place - especially if there's any hint that spin might be a good option.

                                Why would we pick Blundell ahead of Nicholls? Surely Nicholls has established himself in the team. I don't care what he scores in the warm ups. He has earned the right.

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                                @hydro11 Not as an opener, I don't think Nicholls has. He hasn't come out and generated a compelling strike rate in any of his turns opening - in part, because they've kept giving Munro turns, so Nicholls hasn't been given a decent run. Whereas, before Latham got asked to open and keep he was doing a good job opening.

                                Right now, we've got a bunch of guys who are undercooked - I say pick one of the few guys who's showing some form.

                                For me the question is more who opens - Latham or Nicholls, rather than if Blundell plays. Though I'm prepared to concede that the selectors might see this differently. But, I haven't been impressed with our selectors or administrators in 2019.

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                                • KiwiPieK KiwiPie

                                  Just found out I have 2 free tickets for NZ v West Indies at Old Trafford on Saturday 22 June. And I just happen to be in England then and in Shropshire which isn't too far away. Fortuitous don't you think?

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                                  @KiwiPie
                                  Awesome!!!
                                  As the TSF original cricket correspondent couldnโ€™t have gone to a better bloke๐Ÿค“

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                                    @KiwiPie
                                    Awesome!!!
                                    As the TSF original cricket correspondent couldnโ€™t have gone to a better bloke๐Ÿค“

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                                    @Xpat2 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                    @KiwiPie
                                    Awesome!!!
                                    As the TSF original cricket correspondent couldnโ€™t have gone to a better bloke๐Ÿค“

                                    Good to see you're still about Mr Xpat. Sobering thought that the role was almost 20 years ago ....

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                                      Everything can be found in the web archive ...

                                      http://web.archive.org/web/20030218014755/http://thesilverfern.co.nz/cricket/cricket.htm

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                                        @Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                        Back on topic - I'm wondering who is going to make the XI for NZ's first match.

                                        In my mind there's a good case to convert Tom Latham back to being an opener and play both him and Blundell. It's not like Nicholls or Munro has played themselves into compelling form ahead of Latham.

                                        Bowling against the Windies was largely a shitshow. I'm inclined to think that Henry may have played himself out of the XI, so maybe we will see: Guptill, Latham, Williamson, Taylor, Blundell, Neesham, CdG, Santner, Southee, Ferguson, Boult.

                                        Possibly worth considering Sodhi to take CdG's place - especially if there's any hint that spin might be a good option.

                                        Why would we pick Blundell ahead of Nicholls? Surely Nicholls has established himself in the team. I don't care what he scores in the warm ups. He has earned the right.

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                                        @hydro11 said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                        @Chris-B said in 2019 Cricket ODI WC:

                                        Back on topic - I'm wondering who is going to make the XI for NZ's first match.

                                        In my mind there's a good case to convert Tom Latham back to being an opener and play both him and Blundell. It's not like Nicholls or Munro has played themselves into compelling form ahead of Latham.

                                        Bowling against the Windies was largely a shitshow. I'm inclined to think that Henry may have played himself out of the XI, so maybe we will see: Guptill, Latham, Williamson, Taylor, Blundell, Neesham, CdG, Santner, Southee, Ferguson, Boult.

                                        Possibly worth considering Sodhi to take CdG's place - especially if there's any hint that spin might be a good option.

                                        Why would we pick Blundell ahead of Nicholls? Surely Nicholls has established himself in the team. I don't care what he scores in the warm ups. He has earned the right.

                                        Damn right. Nicholls walks in no question.

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                                          Poms 1/1 after 2 balls. Tahir opened the bowling.

                                          Would have paid good odds if you picked him as first wicket taker.

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