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2019 Rugby Championship

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    I agree it doesnt matter greatly, just find it odd they would say they wont play 6/7 (not sure we'd see Read/Cane/Savea at 6/7/8 either)

    IMO running Cane at 6 potentially solves one of the biggest issues we have in our 15.

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      I think Cane is even taller than Ardie too, potential lineout problems solved then and there.

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        Makes perfect sense if you're not too rigid in your thinking.

        Five loose forwards in the squad, with Scott Barrett providing some cover for 6 from the bench.

        In the big games - 6. e.g. Squire; 7. Cane; 8. Read; 20. Ardie. Plus e.g. Frizell.
        For the last 20 minutes it's quite possible that we will see Cane move to blindside and Ardie at openside.

        In the less big games: 6. Frizell; 7. Cane; 8. Ardie; 20. Squire
        AND/OR 6. Frizell; 7. Ardie; 8. Squire; 20. Cane

        What we won't see in the big games is Sam Cane starting at 6 with Ardie playing 7. We need a big munter in 6 who can dominate forward collisions and provide lineout height, plus Sam at 7 who is pretty big and dominant for a 7 - like McCaw.

        Think Kaino - a big and tall 6; McCaw a big 7; and Read a tall 8.

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          I think Cane is even taller than Ardie too, potential lineout problems solved then and there.

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          @MN5 Ardie's much taller.

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @MN5 Ardie's much taller.

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            @Canes4life Yes, metres taller!

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              Forget Scott Barrett, the All Black's should be considering Ardie as lock cover.

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                @MN5 Ardie's much taller.

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                @Canes4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                @MN5 Ardie's much taller.

                Hair doesn't count

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                  @Canes4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                  @MN5 Ardie's much taller.

                  Hair doesn't count

                  1F5ABF17-9E06-418E-A15D-D5A784F83900.jpeg

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                  @MN5 Forget Ardie Savea, the All Black's should be considering Sam Cane as locking cover.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    @MN5 Forget Ardie Savea, the All Black's should be considering Sam Cane as locking cover.

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                    I'd like to see the All Blacks be bold and give the captaincy to Whitey and go with a Cane 7, Ardie 8 combo.

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      I'd like to see the All Blacks be bold and give the captaincy to Whitey and go with a Cane 7, Ardie 8 combo.

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                      @Canes4life I agree. Gives us dynamic ball runner/ turnover specialist on field at same time. Our props just are not dynamic enough, having Coles/Taylor at hooker, Barrett or bench with Whitelock-BBBR locks and ardie-cane on field makes us dangerous in forwards.

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                      • MN5M MN5

                        @Canes4life said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        @MN5 Ardie's much taller.

                        Hair doesn't count

                        1F5ABF17-9E06-418E-A15D-D5A784F83900.jpeg

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                          @Canes4life I agree. Gives us dynamic ball runner/ turnover specialist on field at same time. Our props just are not dynamic enough, having Coles/Taylor at hooker, Barrett or bench with Whitelock-BBBR locks and ardie-cane on field makes us dangerous in forwards.

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                          @98blueandgold Yeah I agree, like Sonny Bill Williams - Kieran Read was amazing in his prime but he hasn't been anywhere near that for the last year or so. I just feel having that Cane - Savea combination gives us a point of difference that no other team in the world can match.

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                            @98blueandgold Yeah I agree, like Sonny Bill Williams - Kieran Read was amazing in his prime but he hasn't been anywhere near that for the last year or so. I just feel having that Cane - Savea combination gives us a point of difference that no other team in the world can match.

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                            @Canes4life yeah against teams last year our forwards just did not have enough impact against excellent defence. We need ball runners and turnover specialists. Even Hansen has mentioned how props have fallen behind NH counterparts. That is not changing anytime soon but this makes us dangerous.

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                              I think having both Coles & Taylor in the same 23 this year will allow us to play with more width as they both like to roam wide and cause havoc. Having Ardie and Cane as our prime loose forward combination will even further that notion where we can run our opposition off the park, especially in the late stages of games. Mobility is key.

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                                Just in case you missed it:

                                The first All Blacks squad of 2019 will be named next Tuesday on the Breakdown (Sky Sport 1, 8.30pm).

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                                  When's the team named?

                                  Anyone...?

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                                    When's the team named?

                                    Anyone...?

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                                    @Siam tomorrow at 5am

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                                    • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                      @Siam tomorrow at 5am

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                                      @taniwharugby I shall set the alarm

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                                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                        @Siam tomorrow at 5am

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                                        @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        @Siam tomorrow at 5am

                                        Thursday already, the week is flying

                                        Edit: It does bloody roll around pretty quickly, it doesn’t seem that long ago we were getting dusted by Ireland and then fishing up the EOYT with Italy.

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                                          @Siam tomorrow at 5am

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                                          @taniwharugby said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                          @Siam tomorrow at 5am

                                          Why not Thursday?

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