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2019 under 20's

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    Billy Proctor and Quinn Tupaea are probably competing for the same spot in the squad, centre. Tupaea had a far more notable NPC season last year than Billy. About the same number of games, and the same age.

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    @Stargazer I agree. Tupaea was insane last year. I watched a bunch of games and didn't see the same impact from Proctor if we're comparing the 2. Could also be bias from me as I'm a Waikato supporter as well.

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      I can't find TV coverage anywhere? maybe online?
      New Zealand Under-20s v Georgia Under-20s, Club de Rugby Ateneo Inmaculada, Santa Fe, 4am, Wednesday, June 5.
      New Zealand Under-20s: 1.Oliver Norris, 2.Kianu Kereru-Symes, 3.Fletcher Newell, 4.Cullen Grace, 5.Taine Plumtree, 6.Samipeni Finau, 7.Kohan Herbert, 8.Devan Flanders, 9.Leroy Carter, 10.Rivez Reihana, 11.Leicester Fainga'anuku, 12.Dallas McLeod, 13.Quinn Tupaea, 14.Etene Nanai-Seturo, 15.Cole Forbes.

      Substitutes: 16.Shilo Klein, 17.George Dyer, 18.Kaliopasi Uluilakepa, 19.Tamati Williams, 20.Tupou Va'ai, 21.Kaylum Boshier, 22.Jeriah Mua, 23.Simon Parker24. Taufa Funaki 25. Fergus Burke 26. Billy Proctor 27 Scott Gregory 28. Lalomilo Lalomilo

      Georgia Under-20s: 1.Nika Gvaladze, 2.Luka Nioradze, 3.Luka Azariashvili, 4.Vakhtang Jincharadze, 5.Luka Gelashvili, 6.Ioseb Gusharashvili, 7.Koba Kolotauri, 8.Beka Koriauli, 9.Mikheil Alania, 10.Tedo Abzhandadze (Cap), 11.Kote Marjanishvili, 12.Givi Tsintsadze, 13.Demur Tapladze, 14.Zura Kavtaradze, 15.Temur Chichinadze

      Substitutes: 16.Vano Karkadze, 17.Zaur Tevdorashvili, 18.Gia Kharaishvili, 19.Ioane Iashagashvili, 20.Tariel Gvimradze, 21.Giorgi Margalitadze, 22.Alexandre Margiani, 23.Lasha Lomidze, 24.Irakli Simsive, 25.Otar Lashkhi, 26.Paata Burchuladze, 27.Dachi Papunashvili, 28.Luka Chelidze

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      @Daffy-Jaffy said in 2019 under 20's:

      I can't find TV coverage anywhere? maybe online?
      New Zealand Under-20s v Georgia Under-20s, Club de Rugby Ateneo Inmaculada, Santa Fe, 4am, Wednesday, June 5.
      New Zealand Under-20s: 1.Oliver Norris, 2.Kianu Kereru-Symes, 3.Fletcher Newell, 4.Cullen Grace, 5.Taine Plumtree, 6.Samipeni Finau, 7.Kohan Herbert, 8.Devan Flanders, 9.Leroy Carter, 10.Rivez Reihana, 11.Leicester Fainga'anuku, 12.Dallas McLeod, 13.Quinn Tupaea, 14.Etene Nanai-Seturo, 15.Cole Forbes.

      Substitutes: 16.Shilo Klein, 17.George Dyer, 18.Kaliopasi Uluilakepa, 19.Tamati Williams, 20.Tupou Va'ai, 21.Kaylum Boshier, 22.Jeriah Mua, 23.Simon Parker

      Georgia Under-20s: 1.Nika Gvaladze, 2.Luka Nioradze, 3.Luka Azariashvili, 4.Vakhtang Jincharadze, 5.Luka Gelashvili, 6.Ioseb Gusharashvili, 7.Koba Kolotauri, 8.Beka Koriauli, 9.Mikheil Alania, 10.Tedo Abzhandadze (Cap), 11.Kote Marjanishvili, 12.Givi Tsintsadze, 13.Demur Tapladze, 14.Zura Kavtaradze, 15.Temur Chichinadze

      Substitutes: 16.Vano Karkadze, 17.Zaur Tevdorashvili, 18.Gia Kharaishvili, 19.Ioane Iashagashvili, 20.Tariel Gvimradze, 21.Giorgi Margalitadze, 22.Alexandre Margiani, 23.Lasha Lomidze, 24.Irakli Simsive, 25.Otar Lashkhi, 26.Paata Burchuladze, 27.Dachi Papunashvili, 28.Luka Chelidze

      @ARHS said in 2019 under 20's:

      @Daffy-Jaffy

      Is that 8 forwards on the bench and no backs? Do the trial substitution laws apply?

      Looking at those squads, the Georgians have a bench of 13 players, in line with the new (trial) rules for U20s. I suspect they have just forgotten to include the players with the jersey numbers 24 to 28 on the NZ bench, because maybe their website person isn't aware of those new rules (assuming the NZ coaches aren't that stupid)? So @Canes4life beloved Billy Proctor may still be on the bench.

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        Yeah, teams are allowed to name a bench of 13 but can only use 8 of them.

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          I assume Georgia will pack a decent scrum. is there a chance we could belly up against these guys..?

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            @Daffy-Jaffy said in 2019 under 20's:

            I can't find TV coverage anywhere? maybe online?
            New Zealand Under-20s v Georgia Under-20s, Club de Rugby Ateneo Inmaculada, Santa Fe, 4am, Wednesday, June 5.
            New Zealand Under-20s: 1.Oliver Norris, 2.Kianu Kereru-Symes, 3.Fletcher Newell, 4.Cullen Grace, 5.Taine Plumtree, 6.Samipeni Finau, 7.Kohan Herbert, 8.Devan Flanders, 9.Leroy Carter, 10.Rivez Reihana, 11.Leicester Fainga'anuku, 12.Dallas McLeod, 13.Quinn Tupaea, 14.Etene Nanai-Seturo, 15.Cole Forbes.

            Substitutes: 16.Shilo Klein, 17.George Dyer, 18.Kaliopasi Uluilakepa, 19.Tamati Williams, 20.Tupou Va'ai, 21.Kaylum Boshier, 22.Jeriah Mua, 23.Simon Parker

            Georgia Under-20s: 1.Nika Gvaladze, 2.Luka Nioradze, 3.Luka Azariashvili, 4.Vakhtang Jincharadze, 5.Luka Gelashvili, 6.Ioseb Gusharashvili, 7.Koba Kolotauri, 8.Beka Koriauli, 9.Mikheil Alania, 10.Tedo Abzhandadze (Cap), 11.Kote Marjanishvili, 12.Givi Tsintsadze, 13.Demur Tapladze, 14.Zura Kavtaradze, 15.Temur Chichinadze

            Substitutes: 16.Vano Karkadze, 17.Zaur Tevdorashvili, 18.Gia Kharaishvili, 19.Ioane Iashagashvili, 20.Tariel Gvimradze, 21.Giorgi Margalitadze, 22.Alexandre Margiani, 23.Lasha Lomidze, 24.Irakli Simsive, 25.Otar Lashkhi, 26.Paata Burchuladze, 27.Dachi Papunashvili, 28.Luka Chelidze

            @ARHS said in 2019 under 20's:

            @Daffy-Jaffy

            Is that 8 forwards on the bench and no backs? Do the trial substitution laws apply?

            Looking at those squads, the Georgians have a bench of 13 players, in line with the new (trial) rules for U20s. I suspect they have just forgotten to include the players with the jersey numbers 24 to 28 on the NZ bench, because maybe their website person isn't aware of those new rules (assuming the NZ coaches aren't that stupid)? So @Canes4life beloved Billy Proctor may still be on the bench.

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            @Stargazer Sweet I can blame the team sheet announcement error for my rant.

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              I assume Georgia will pack a decent scrum. is there a chance we could belly up against these guys..?

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              @Steven-Harris said in 2019 under 20's:

              I assume Georgia will pack a decent scrum. is there a chance we could belly up against these guys..?

              Quite likely - if we deviate from the detailed tactical plan that I've outlined above! 🙂

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                So here's the full list for the match against Georgia:

                The New Zealand Under 20 team is;

                1 Ollie Norris
                2 Kianu Kereru Symes (c)
                3 Fletcher Newell
                4 Cullen Grace
                5 Taine Plumtree
                6 Samipeni Finau
                7 Kohan Herbert
                8 Devan Flanders
                9 Leroy Carter
                10 Rivez Reihana
                11 Leicester Faingaanuku
                12 Dallas McLeod
                13 Quinn Tupaea
                14 Etene Nanai-Seturo
                15 Cole Forbes

                16 Shilo Klein
                17 George Dyer
                18 Kaliopasi Uluilakepa
                19 Tamaiti Williams
                20 Tupou Vaa’i
                21 Kaylum Boshier
                22 Jeriah Mua
                23 Simon Parker
                24 Taufa Funaki
                25 Fergus Burke
                26 Billy Proctor
                27 Scott Gregory
                28 Lalomilo Lalomilo

                *A World Rugby trial sees an extended bench, with eight players able to be used as replacements during the match.
                

                http://www.allblacks.com/News/34224/new-zealand-u20s-named-for-world-championship-opener

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                  @Daffy-Jaffy

                  Is that 8 forwards on the bench and no backs? Do the trial substitution laws apply?

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                  @ARHS thought that bench was weird when I posted it from the All Blacks website. I see it has been corrected now.

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                    Dallas McLeod seems to have the trust of Philpott despite his underwhelming Pacific Tournament. Can Scott Gregory play at 2nd five ?

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                      I will reserve judgement but this team could struggle to get out of pool play. Will be a massive reliance on Flanders as a ball carrier and wings to create magic every time they touch ball. Just can’t see this team creating pressure for long periods of time or creating enough consistent space for outsides. This is mainly to do with lack of game managers in half’s and big ball carriers in forwards. Hope I’m wrong 🙁

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                        #352

                        First results -

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                        Spoiler Text
                        SOUTH AFRICA U20 43 - 19 SCOTLAND U20.
                        AUSTRALIA U20 36 - 12 ITALY U20
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                        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                          First results -

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                          Spoiler Text
                          SOUTH AFRICA U20 43 - 19 SCOTLAND U20.
                          AUSTRALIA U20 36 - 12 ITALY U20
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                          @Daffy-Jaffy Can you, please, hide these scores with the spoiler function? Not all of us will be able to watch all games live and like to watch them later without having seen the score. Thx.

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                          • StargazerS Stargazer

                            @Daffy-Jaffy Can you, please, hide these scores with the spoiler function? Not all of us will be able to watch all games live and like to watch them later without having seen the score. Thx.

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                            @Stargazer Sorry I don't know what that is, please explain how.

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                            • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

                              @Stargazer Sorry I don't know what that is, please explain how.

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                              @Daffy-Jaffy It's a symbol that looks like an eye.

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                                First scrum went well. Against players who have Top 14 experience.

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                                  Good defence against the first Georgian driving maul.

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                                    Penalty conceded when defending against the second driving maul.
                                    Georgia's experienced 10 scores the first points.

                                    0 - 3 Georgia

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                                      That was a bs penalty. No way that was a shoulder charge from Nanai-Seturo.

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                                        Oh God, the TMO is now calling the ref to look at possible faul play (the same tackle from N-S). There's really nothing in it.

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                                          This is absolutely insane. The TMO suggests a yellow card, and the ref gives it. Totally bs.

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