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    Carlos Price did not start all that often for his allocated club of Petone either after being trumpted as the next big whiz kid when signed by the WRFU whilst still at school in Auckland.

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    • J Jaebird

      @mikey07 you obviously had a problem with Rangihuna being better than the two you mentioned, hmm makes me wonder if your a tawa man. As for CP he's been goneskeez ages ago, got signed up for nothing.

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      @jailbird no I’m not I’m actually from Wainui I just find his pass slow and his decision making questionable but hey that’s just my opinion happy to be proved wrong.

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        @Stargazer bit of both. He is contracted til the end of M10 and is keen to head over straight after Super. Auckland are happy for him to head over there and get his family settled in but NZRU have asked him to stay as cover in the event of further outside back injuries

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        @Nogusta said in Exodus 2019:

        @Stargazer bit of both. He is contracted til the end of M10 and is keen to head over straight after Super. Auckland are happy for him to head over there and get his family settled in but NZRU have asked him to stay as cover in the event of further outside back injuries

        Seems reasonable to me.

        He'll be on that second tier, but our outside back stocks suddenly look thin with DMac gone.

        Without jinxing it, injuries could mean another Paulasi Manu situation perhaps? RWC winners medal, without ever getting capped (or playing for the team!)

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          BBBR NOT exiting stage left until at least 2023.

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            BBBR to miss next 2 SR seasons back for ABs in 2021 )
            [link text](link url)https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/rugby/all-blacks/113415766/all-blacks-and-chiefs-lock-brodie-retallick-resigns-with-new-zealand-rugby-to-2023

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              BBBR NOT exiting stage left until at least 2023.

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              @taniwharugby said in Exodus 2019:

              BBBR NOT exiting stage left until at least 2023.

              Can I like this twice?

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                Highlanders loose forward Elliot Dixon has confirmed that he has signed a two-year deal with Ricoh Black Rams and will head there in October to play in the Japan Top League.

                With the World Cup in Japan from September to November, the Japan league has been switched to a January start and will clash with Super Rugby next year.
                
                There have been suggestions another season will be played in the second half of the year - bringing two seasons in the calendar year, and a lucrative payday for many players.
                
                But that appears to have been ruled out. The suggestion is the next three seasons in Japan are set to be played in the first half of the year, directly clashing with the Super Rugby season.
                
                Dixon (29) said the season structure was still undecided in Japan but it appeared to be the end of being able to play in two competitions back to back.
                
                ''At the moment the competition is pretty cool over there. The Top League is awesome to play and then you can come back again and play for a season for the Highlanders again. But not sure if we are going to be able to do that,'' Dixon said.
                
                ''I would love to do that but it hasn't worked out that way so I'm going to head off to Japan.''
                
                Dixon is one of seven Highlanders from this season's original squad who will play in Japan next season.
                
                He will be joined by locks Tom Franklin and Jackson Hemopo, loose forward Liam Squire, first five-eighth Marty Banks, midfielder Richard Buckman and winger Tevita Li, who has joined Suntory.
                

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                I'll post the link to the press release of the clubs concerned, once they have confirmed the signings of Franklin and Banks. All I have on Franklin at the moment is that he still has a 2nd year on his Kobelco Steelers contract, but that wouldn't necessarily rule out a return to SR (depending on the Top League format).

                https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/highlanders/dixons-decision-choose-japan-all-about-family

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                  Highlanders loose forward Elliot Dixon has confirmed that he has signed a two-year deal with Ricoh Black Rams and will head there in October to play in the Japan Top League.

                  With the World Cup in Japan from September to November, the Japan league has been switched to a January start and will clash with Super Rugby next year.
                  
                  There have been suggestions another season will be played in the second half of the year - bringing two seasons in the calendar year, and a lucrative payday for many players.
                  
                  But that appears to have been ruled out. The suggestion is the next three seasons in Japan are set to be played in the first half of the year, directly clashing with the Super Rugby season.
                  
                  Dixon (29) said the season structure was still undecided in Japan but it appeared to be the end of being able to play in two competitions back to back.
                  
                  ''At the moment the competition is pretty cool over there. The Top League is awesome to play and then you can come back again and play for a season for the Highlanders again. But not sure if we are going to be able to do that,'' Dixon said.
                  
                  ''I would love to do that but it hasn't worked out that way so I'm going to head off to Japan.''
                  
                  Dixon is one of seven Highlanders from this season's original squad who will play in Japan next season.
                  
                  He will be joined by locks Tom Franklin and Jackson Hemopo, loose forward Liam Squire, first five-eighth Marty Banks, midfielder Richard Buckman and winger Tevita Li, who has joined Suntory.
                  

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                  I'll post the link to the press release of the clubs concerned, once they have confirmed the signings of Franklin and Banks. All I have on Franklin at the moment is that he still has a 2nd year on his Kobelco Steelers contract, but that wouldn't necessarily rule out a return to SR (depending on the Top League format).

                  https://www.odt.co.nz/sport/rugby/highlanders/dixons-decision-choose-japan-all-about-family

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                  #584

                  @Stargazer That would put him out for 2020 SR at least, due to Japan League schedule for 2020 ?

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                    @Stargazer That would put him out for 2020 SR at least, due to Japan League schedule for 2020 ?

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                    @Chris Probably, but it depends on how it's written in his contract. He signed his contract with Kobelco in 2018, when nothing was known about the Top League format post RWC.

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                      The rate this is going

                      1. The highlanders will be Coltman + 14 rookies
                      2. The ABs will soon be selected from Super Rugby and the Japanese Top League

                      If that proposed world rugby league falls thru the game will be up.

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                      • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                        The rate this is going

                        1. The highlanders will be Coltman + 14 rookies
                        2. The ABs will soon be selected from Super Rugby and the Japanese Top League

                        If that proposed world rugby league falls thru the game will be up.

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                        #587

                        @Billy-Tell Nah, that's not necessary at all. The examples of Matt Todd, Ash Dixon, Heiden Bedwell-Curtis and maybe a few others has shown (last year), that players can sign contracts with Japanese clubs for only part of the Top League season. To highlight Ash Dixon's example for those who don't know: he signed a contract with Panasonic that allowed him to play for Hawke's Bay during the regular season of the Mitre 10 Cup, but miss the finals, and play for Panasonic from mid-October to mid-December. So only for 2 months!

                        So, there's nothing stopping Japanese clubs from signing All Blacks for only part of the season again, allowing them to return to NZ in time to play Super Rugby.

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                          @Billy-Tell Nah, that's not necessary at all. The examples of Matt Todd, Ash Dixon, Heiden Bedwell-Curtis and maybe a few others has shown (last year), that players can sign contracts with Japanese clubs for only part of the Top League season. To highlight Ash Dixon's example for those who don't know: he signed a contract with Panasonic that allowed him to play for Hawke's Bay during the regular season of the Mitre 10 Cup, but miss the finals, and play for Panasonic from mid-October to mid-December. So only for 2 months!

                          So, there's nothing stopping Japanese clubs from signing All Blacks for only part of the season again, allowing them to return to NZ in time to play Super Rugby.

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                          @Stargazer said in Exodus 2019:

                          @Billy-Tell Nah, that's not necessary at all. The examples of Matt Todd, Ash Dixon, Heiden Bedwell-Curtis and maybe a few others has shown (last year), that players can sign contracts with Japanese clubs for only part of the Top League season. To highlight Ash Dixon's example for those who don't know: he signed a contract with Panasonic that allowed him to play for Hawke's Bay during the regular season of the Mitre 10 Cup, but miss the finals, and play for Panasonic from mid-October to mid-December. So only for 2 months!

                          So, there's nothing stopping Japanese clubs from signing All Blacks for only part of the season again, allowing them to return to NZ in time to play Super Rugby.

                          Yeah nah. Japanese season is now going to overlap with super rugby.

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                          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

                            @Stargazer said in Exodus 2019:

                            @Billy-Tell Nah, that's not necessary at all. The examples of Matt Todd, Ash Dixon, Heiden Bedwell-Curtis and maybe a few others has shown (last year), that players can sign contracts with Japanese clubs for only part of the Top League season. To highlight Ash Dixon's example for those who don't know: he signed a contract with Panasonic that allowed him to play for Hawke's Bay during the regular season of the Mitre 10 Cup, but miss the finals, and play for Panasonic from mid-October to mid-December. So only for 2 months!

                            So, there's nothing stopping Japanese clubs from signing All Blacks for only part of the season again, allowing them to return to NZ in time to play Super Rugby.

                            Yeah nah. Japanese season is now going to overlap with super rugby.

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                            @Billy-Tell So far, the overlap only exists in 2020, and anyone who follows Top League a bit knows that the Top League format changes as often as the weather. There's no way they're going to select the ABs from the Top League, as that would open the flood gates for even more players to leave NZ for Japan than is the case now. And also, the quality of rugby in Japan isn't good enough to select ABs players from.

                            It all depends on what format the Top League will have after the firs half of 2020, but no doubt NZR will be following the developments and look for alternatives and other ways of keeping players in SR.

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                              A few more players leaving NZ for Japan, although it's not clear whether it's only for this years Top League Cup (June - August), or for the entire Top League season after the RWC:

                              Jimmy Tupou - NTT Communications Shining Ark

                              Ben Funnell - Ricoh Black Rams

                              Jeffery Thwaites - Kobe Steel Kobelco Steelers

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                                The way things are going all overseas professional teams will be filled with kiwis thus overseas test teams will only be able to select second echelon players for internationals in which case it won't really matter if we are left with the bare 15 players of our normal All Black test level status and ability as we should be able to cream them with that. Eventually there will be no spots available in overseas teams to sign any more New Zealanders (or other foreign players for that matter) so any aspiring players seeking overseas contracts will virtually have to stay in NZ by dint of there being no spots available in overseas team's rosters available.

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                                • M mikey07

                                  @jailbird no I’m not I’m actually from Wainui I just find his pass slow and his decision making questionable but hey that’s just my opinion happy to be proved wrong.

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                                  @mikey07 I don't bag players or clubs, but you've obviously watched the wrong player. Rangihuna not only had a great pass, his kicking game was good and his decision making and captaincy proved to be one of the best in the Wgtn comp. In my opinion, I'm sure Wainui and some of the other teams will be glad he's gone, cause he was threat, but as you say, each to their own opinion.

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                                    http://www.kobelcosteelers.com/member/index.php

                                    Brodie Retallick is joining Kobelco Steelers, the articles were saying it wasn't announced, but his name is on the list here.

                                    Also, Ataata Moeakiola is leaving and joining Kobelco.

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                                    • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                      http://www.kobelcosteelers.com/member/index.php

                                      Brodie Retallick is joining Kobelco Steelers, the articles were saying it wasn't announced, but his name is on the list here.

                                      Also, Ataata Moeakiola is leaving and joining Kobelco.

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                                      @Yeetyaah When I checked last night (when I posted the names of other players who are leaving), it wasn't published yet. It must have been added today.

                                      This is the official announcedment (dated yesterday, but posted today): https://www.top-league.jp/2019/06/12/kobe-2019-5/

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                                      • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                        http://www.kobelcosteelers.com/member/index.php

                                        Brodie Retallick is joining Kobelco Steelers, the articles were saying it wasn't announced, but his name is on the list here.

                                        Also, Ataata Moeakiola is leaving and joining Kobelco.

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                                        @Yeetyaah Also, Ataata Moeakiola is leaving and joining Kobelco.

                                        Are you happy about this one.He has been bagged a lot by some chiefs fans on the Fern ?

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                                          @Yeetyaah Also, Ataata Moeakiola is leaving and joining Kobelco.

                                          Are you happy about this one.He has been bagged a lot by some chiefs fans on the Fern ?

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                                          @Chris Yeah a bit stoked tbh. He didn't do much for me. Opens up for a local talent.

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