World Cup Squad Positions
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@Paj said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:
1 too many in the midfield, need another prop
Yeah, altho I like that midfield group, would rather drop Bridge and bring in a Prop
Yes - but how are you going to use that fifth midfielder in a big game?
You've got two playing. And one on the bench. One sitting in the stands in case someone gets injured in warm-ups.
And the fastest one running down to the local fish and chip shop with Shag and Fozzie's halftime order.
@Chris-B said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@Paj said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:
1 too many in the midfield, need another prop
Yeah, altho I like that midfield group, would rather drop Bridge and bring in a Prop
Yes - but how are you going to use that fifth midfielder in a big game?
You've got two playing. And one on the bench. One sitting in the stands in case someone gets injured in warm-ups.
And the fastest one running down to the local fish and chip shop with Shag and Fozzie's halftime order.
I know, just posted what I had at this stage, needs a few tweeks. Liked that group, but most likely Laumape will get dropped
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You could also consider leaving out a three quarter for another 1st five. On that one, they’ve been less clear.
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@gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:
Is this a bet thing? If so, you’ll have to make a decision, the AB selectors have made it clear they are only taking four midfielders and will need five props.
Yeah, 12 mates catching up for weekend have to bring squad & $20 entry closest to Hansens wins.
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@gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:
You could also consider leaving out a three quarter for another 1st five. On that one, they’ve been less clear.
Still think 3 1st fives is way to go, but can't work out who
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By the way, does your squad only have 30 names? In which case, you might have lost already? Isn’t it 31?
In mine, probably Harris goes, plus add Laulala or even perhaps Lomax? Pat T might stay home (I’d probably pick him), and I’ll be surprised if either of Frizzel or Whitelock don’t go. Ioane will have been played into the ground by then. Frizzel plus Squire covers 6 & 8 pretty well - I’m not sure if the time is right for Paps yet either.
In the backs, HBs are the form guys, you need an extra 10, midfield depends on injury, and only 2 outsides are set.
Jodie may sneak in due to lack of competition but if Ioane got injured we’d be pretty small and not overly fast.
If I had to bet on a real bolter, I’m starting to like Ennor more and more, but I don’t think it’s his time yet and he won’t get a chance against the Argies as he’s a Crusader.
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By the way, does your squad only have 30 names? In which case, you might have lost already? Isn’t it 31?
In mine, probably Harris goes, plus add Laulala or even perhaps Lomax? Pat T might stay home (I’d probably pick him), and I’ll be surprised if either of Frizzel or Whitelock don’t go. Ioane will have been played into the ground by then. Frizzel plus Squire covers 6 & 8 pretty well - I’m not sure if the time is right for Paps yet either.
In the backs, HBs are the form guys, you need an extra 10, midfield depends on injury, and only 2 outsides are set.
Jodie may sneak in due to lack of competition but if Ioane got injured we’d be pretty small and not overly fast.
If I had to bet on a real bolter, I’m starting to like Ennor more and more, but I don’t think it’s his time yet and he won’t get a chance against the Argies as he’s a Crusader.
@gt12 said in World Cup Squad Positions:
By the way, does your squad only have 30 names? In which case, you might have lost already? Isn’t it 31?
In mine, probably Harris goes, plus add Laulala or even perhaps Lomax? Pat T might stay home (I’d probably pick him), and I’ll be surprised if either of Frizzel or Whitelock don’t go. Ioane will have been played into the ground by then. Frizzel plus Squire covers 6 & 8 pretty well - I’m not sure if the time is right for Paps yet either.
In the backs, HBs are the form guys, you need an extra 10, midfield depends on injury, and only 2 outsides are set.
Jodie may sneak in due to lack of competition but if Ioane got injured we’d be pretty small and not overly fast.
If I had to bet on a real bolter, I’m starting to like Ennor more and more, but I don’t think it’s his time yet and he won’t get a chance against the Argies as he’s a Crusader.
Still have to add 1 more.
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Craig Dowd, for an ex forward, loves his backs!
Craig Dowd's New Zealand World Cup squad:
Props: Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Joe Moody, Owen Franks;
Hookers: Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Dane Coles;
Locks: Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Sam Whitelock
Back-rowers: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Luke Jacobson, Shannon Frizell, Liam Squire, Kieran Read
Half-backs: Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara
Fly-halves: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett
Midfielders: Anton Lienert-Brown, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape
Outside backs: Rieko Ioane, Braydon Ennor, George Bridge, David Havili, Ben Smith, Jordie Barrett.
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Craig Dowd, for an ex forward, loves his backs!
Craig Dowd's New Zealand World Cup squad:
Props: Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Joe Moody, Owen Franks;
Hookers: Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Dane Coles;
Locks: Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Sam Whitelock
Back-rowers: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Luke Jacobson, Shannon Frizell, Liam Squire, Kieran Read
Half-backs: Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara
Fly-halves: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett
Midfielders: Anton Lienert-Brown, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape
Outside backs: Rieko Ioane, Braydon Ennor, George Bridge, David Havili, Ben Smith, Jordie Barrett.
@Machpants I like the look of that team. Problem again is that SBW is guaranteed a spot.
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@Machpants I like the look of that team. Problem again is that SBW is guaranteed a spot.
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@Yeetyaah I'm not so sure. SBW is guaranteed a spot on the (extended) RC squad if fit. But he'll still have to prove himself to get to the RWC tho in my opinion.
@Machpants I really hope so. I feel Laumape would be the one to miss out which would be a shame as he's been in great form.
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@Machpants I like the look of that team. Problem again is that SBW is guaranteed a spot.
@Yeetyaah said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@Machpants I like the look of that team. Problem again is that SBW is guaranteed a spot.
a tyro loose forward (Jacobsen) who hasn't played at the top level? No thanks.
They'll take Hemopo or Savea or Whitelock (L) before him ... forwards are not going to get picked for the RWC without experience.
Outside backs, on the other hand, could go full NMS
Edit: By Savea, I meant Ioane of course. Posting tired and confusing families with top class wings and excellent loose forward brothers...
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@Bones ALB probably too
@taniwharugby I think ALB's first game for the Chiefs was on the wing in 2014.
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@Yeetyaah said in World Cup Squad Positions:
@Machpants I like the look of that team. Problem again is that SBW is guaranteed a spot.
a tyro loose forward (Jacobsen) who hasn't played at the top level? No thanks.
They'll take Hemopo or Savea or Whitelock (L) before him ... forwards are not going to get picked for the RWC without experience.
Outside backs, on the other hand, could go full NMS
Edit: By Savea, I meant Ioane of course. Posting tired and confusing families with top class wings and excellent loose forward brothers...
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I think they will take 5 props so add Laulalu
Drop Ennor or Havalli as they won’t take that many outside backs
Add Pat T instead of Jacobsen (too soon for him)as they will use Barrett as 6 cover especially in the lesser pool games
SBW will be picked one of those MF will drop out
Otherwise Dowds team is close
That’s who I think the selectors will pick not who I would -
Craig Dowd, for an ex forward, loves his backs!
Craig Dowd's New Zealand World Cup squad:
Props: Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Joe Moody, Owen Franks;
Hookers: Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Dane Coles;
Locks: Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Sam Whitelock
Back-rowers: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Luke Jacobson, Shannon Frizell, Liam Squire, Kieran Read
Half-backs: Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara
Fly-halves: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett
Midfielders: Anton Lienert-Brown, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape
Outside backs: Rieko Ioane, Braydon Ennor, George Bridge, David Havili, Ben Smith, Jordie Barrett.
@Machpants said in World Cup Squad Positions:
Craig Dowd, for an ex forward, loves his backs!
Craig Dowd's New Zealand World Cup squad:
Props: Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Joe Moody, Owen Franks;
Hookers: Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Dane Coles;
Locks: Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Sam Whitelock
Back-rowers: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Luke Jacobson, Shannon Frizell, Liam Squire, Kieran Read
Half-backs: Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara
Fly-halves: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett
Midfielders: Anton Lienert-Brown, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape
Outside backs: Rieko Ioane, Braydon Ennor, George Bridge, David Havili, Ben Smith, Jordie Barrett.
As you say at least one too many backs and one too few props.
Add Nepo Laulala and drop David Havili.
Then check your balance as to whether you need a 4th lock (Pat T) or a lock/6 (Fifita). And whether Jacobson and/or Ennor miss out.
At least.
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@Machpants said in World Cup Squad Positions:
Craig Dowd, for an ex forward, loves his backs!
Craig Dowd's New Zealand World Cup squad:
Props: Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Joe Moody, Owen Franks;
Hookers: Nathan Harris, Codie Taylor, Dane Coles;
Locks: Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Sam Whitelock
Back-rowers: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Luke Jacobson, Shannon Frizell, Liam Squire, Kieran Read
Half-backs: Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara
Fly-halves: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett
Midfielders: Anton Lienert-Brown, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape
Outside backs: Rieko Ioane, Braydon Ennor, George Bridge, David Havili, Ben Smith, Jordie Barrett.
As you say at least one too many backs and one too few props.
Add Nepo Laulala and drop David Havili.
Then check your balance as to whether you need a 4th lock (Pat T) or a lock/6 (Fifita). And whether Jacobson and/or Ennor miss out.
At least.
@booboo said in World Cup Squad Positions:
Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara
It is a fecking awful squad 16 forwards & 15 backs
:globe_showing_europe-africa:I'd add Gus Ta'avo from Chiefs as 5th prop can cover both sides like Ola T and is playing light out
Liam Coltman for Harris at Hooker
Replace Jacobsen with Hemepo
Drop Havilli from the sqaud
I'd add Angus Ta'avao from Chiefs as 5th prop can cover both sides like Ola T and is playing light out
Drop Ennor replace them with Tim Perry who'll be 3rd choice LH prop
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@booboo said in World Cup Squad Positions:
Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara
It is a fecking awful squad 16 forwards & 15 backs
:globe_showing_europe-africa:I'd add Gus Ta'avo from Chiefs as 5th prop can cover both sides like Ola T and is playing light out
Liam Coltman for Harris at Hooker
Replace Jacobsen with Hemepo
Drop Havilli from the sqaud
I'd add Angus Ta'avao from Chiefs as 5th prop can cover both sides like Ola T and is playing light out
Drop Ennor replace them with Tim Perry who'll be 3rd choice LH prop
@Jaguares4real
Here's my 31 man Kiwi RWC squad with 18 forwards and 13 backs
Props: Karl Tu'inukuafe, Ofa Tu'ungafasi, Joe Moody, Owen Franks, Angus Ta'avao, Tim Perry;
Hookers: Liam Coltman, Codie Taylor, Dane Coles;
Locks: Brodie Retallick, Scott Barrett, Sam Whitelock
Back-rowers: Sam Cane, Ardie Savea, Jackson Hemepo, Shannon Frizell, Liam Squire, Kieran Read
Half-backs: Brad Weber, Aaron Smith, TJ Perenara
Fly-halves: Richie Mo'unga, Beauden Barrett
Midfielders: Anton Lienert-Brown, Ryan Crotty, Jack Goodhue, Ngani Laumape
Outside backs: Rieko Ioane, George Bridge, Ben Smith, Jordie Barrett.
