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    @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

    From Cully’s squad the only questions I have are:

    Harris vs Coltman
    Patty T vs Fifita vs Hemopo
    Weber vs TTT
    Inclusion of Ioane
    Bridge vs Naholo

    I would change that into:

    Harris vs Coltman
    Patty T vs Fifita vs A Ioane
    Weber vs TTT
    Bridge vs Naholo

    The fourth lock depends on how Scott Barrett is seen, too. If they seem him as a 6/lock cover, then that'll open the door for Pat T. If he's lock only, Pat T doesn't go I don't think.

    Not sure Akira will go though, could be a bit late to get into the systems as a loosie. Possibly an expensive few drink sin Dunedin (if the rumours are true)

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    @nzzp Akira may be in the 41-squad, but I can't see him take a spot in the RWC squad either. I think both Savea and Squire provide sufficient cover for no. 8.

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      @nzzp Akira may be in the 41-squad, but I can't see him take a spot in the RWC squad either. I think both Savea and Squire provide sufficient cover for no. 8.

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      @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

      @nzzp Akira may be in the 41-squad, but I can't see him take a spot in the RWC squad either. I think both Savea and Squire provide sufficient cover for no. 8.

      i love how people are still cool taking Squire, who has form doing dumb thug shit and getting binned for it. In a big game on the weekend no less.

      It's funny the length of rope some players get that aren't afforded to others.

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      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

        @nzzp i know i am in the minority, but i would take Pat T over SBarrett. One is a genuine impact player who adds something in the final 20 minutes, one is insurance.

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        @mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:

        @nzzp i know i am in the minority, but i would take Pat T over SBarrett. One is a genuine impact player who adds something in the final 20 minutes, one is insurance.

        I'm a little disappointed in you for that!

        I think Scott Barrett is a whisker away from starting. He tackles like Brodie and gets around like both Brodie and Whitelock

        Do you even watch rugby?

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        • HoorooH Hooroo

          @mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:

          @nzzp i know i am in the minority, but i would take Pat T over SBarrett. One is a genuine impact player who adds something in the final 20 minutes, one is insurance.

          I'm a little disappointed in you for that!

          I think Scott Barrett is a whisker away from starting. He tackles like Brodie and gets around like both Brodie and Whitelock

          Do you even watch rugby?

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          @Hooroo said in World Cup Squad Positions:

          @mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:

          @nzzp i know i am in the minority, but i would take Pat T over SBarrett. One is a genuine impact player who adds something in the final 20 minutes, one is insurance.

          I'm a little disappointed in you for that!

          I think Scott Barrett is a whisker away from starting. He tackles like Brodie and gets around like both Brodie and Whitelock

          Do you even watch rugby?

          fuck it's a bit early to be on the cans champ! what happened to the diet?

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          • HoorooH Hooroo

            @mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:

            @nzzp i know i am in the minority, but i would take Pat T over SBarrett. One is a genuine impact player who adds something in the final 20 minutes, one is insurance.

            I'm a little disappointed in you for that!

            I think Scott Barrett is a whisker away from starting. He tackles like Brodie and gets around like both Brodie and Whitelock

            Do you even watch rugby?

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            @Hooroo I think @mariner4life missed the entire 2018 All Blacks campaign. Scott Barrett was huge!

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            • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

              @Hooroo said in World Cup Squad Positions:

              @mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:

              @nzzp i know i am in the minority, but i would take Pat T over SBarrett. One is a genuine impact player who adds something in the final 20 minutes, one is insurance.

              I'm a little disappointed in you for that!

              I think Scott Barrett is a whisker away from starting. He tackles like Brodie and gets around like both Brodie and Whitelock

              Do you even watch rugby?

              fuck it's a bit early to be on the cans champ! what happened to the diet?

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              @mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:

              @Hooroo said in World Cup Squad Positions:

              @mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:

              @nzzp i know i am in the minority, but i would take Pat T over SBarrett. One is a genuine impact player who adds something in the final 20 minutes, one is insurance.

              I'm a little disappointed in you for that!

              I think Scott Barrett is a whisker away from starting. He tackles like Brodie and gets around like both Brodie and Whitelock

              Do you even watch rugby?

              fuck it's a bit early to be on the cans champ! what happened to the diet?

              Always room for a few quiets

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              • StargazerS Stargazer

                @Hooroo I think @mariner4life missed the entire 2018 All Blacks campaign. Scott Barrett was huge!

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                @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                @Hooroo I think @mariner4life missed the entire 2018 All Blacks campaign. Scott Barrett was huge!

                You and me both bro! You bet!

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                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                  @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                  @nzzp Akira may be in the 41-squad, but I can't see him take a spot in the RWC squad either. I think both Savea and Squire provide sufficient cover for no. 8.

                  i love how people are still cool taking Squire, who has form doing dumb thug shit and getting binned for it. In a big game on the weekend no less.

                  It's funny the length of rope some players get that aren't afforded to others.

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                  @mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                  It's funny the length of rope some players get that aren't afforded to others.

                  but Squire is an enforcer, a hardman!

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                    @nzzp Akira may be in the 41-squad, but I can't see him take a spot in the RWC squad either. I think both Savea and Squire provide sufficient cover for no. 8.

                    i love how people are still cool taking Squire, who has form doing dumb thug shit and getting binned for it. In a big game on the weekend no less.

                    It's funny the length of rope some players get that aren't afforded to others.

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                    A hell of a lot can change between now and the World Cup squad being finalised.

                    If you think back to 4 years ago

                    • Naholo was named in ABs for the first time, then broke his leg on debut, then somehow made it back to make the squad.
                    • Halfway through The Rugby Championship with 2 tests until the RWC - NMS still hadn't played a minute of test rugby.
                    • Sopoaga won a Super Rugby title and then played as well on test debut as you could possibly imagine + Carter's form up until the final test before RWC 2015 was average and Lima still didn't crack the RWC squad.
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                      Scott barrett is good for beating up Australian forwards, I'll give him that.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        A hell of a lot can change between now and the World Cup squad being finalised.

                        If you think back to 4 years ago

                        • Naholo was named in ABs for the first time, then broke his leg on debut, then somehow made it back to make the squad.
                        • Halfway through The Rugby Championship with 2 tests until the RWC - NMS still hadn't played a minute of test rugby.
                        • Sopoaga won a Super Rugby title and then played as well on test debut as you could possibly imagine + Carter's form up until the final test before RWC 2015 was average and Lima still didn't crack the RWC squad.
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                        @KiwiMurph Yes, I think injuries will play a big role in the RWC squad selection. More so than form.

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                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                          @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                          @nzzp Akira may be in the 41-squad, but I can't see him take a spot in the RWC squad either. I think both Savea and Squire provide sufficient cover for no. 8.

                          i love how people are still cool taking Squire, who has form doing dumb thug shit and getting binned for it. In a big game on the weekend no less.

                          It's funny the length of rope some players get that aren't afforded to others.

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                          @mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                          @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                          @nzzp Akira may be in the 41-squad, but I can't see him take a spot in the RWC squad either. I think both Savea and Squire provide sufficient cover for no. 8.

                          i love how people are still cool taking Squire, who has form doing dumb thug shit and getting binned for it. In a big game on the weekend no less.

                          It's funny the length of rope some players get that aren't afforded to others.

                          I hear what you’re laying down but in saying that he’s certainly no Sonny Bill Williams

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                            I think I'd rather Akira in the squad as a first five over Jordie.

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                              I think Nepo Laulala is not an automatic choice. He was on the bench in the latter rounds as Angus Taavao was the starter on the tight head. Do not forget Tyrel Lomax either.
                              On the loose head, I expect a discussion between Tuinukuafe and Moli who came back strongly after his terrible injury.

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                              • HoorooH Hooroo

                                @mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                @nzzp i know i am in the minority, but i would take Pat T over SBarrett. One is a genuine impact player who adds something in the final 20 minutes, one is insurance.

                                I'm a little disappointed in you for that!

                                I think Scott Barrett is a whisker away from starting. He tackles like Brodie and gets around like both Brodie and Whitelock

                                Do you even watch rugby?

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                                @Hooroo said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                @mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                @nzzp i know i am in the minority, but i would take Pat T over SBarrett. One is a genuine impact player who adds something in the final 20 minutes, one is insurance.

                                I'm a little disappointed in you for that!

                                I think Scott Barrett is a whisker away from starting. He tackles like Brodie and gets around like both Brodie and Whitelock

                                Do you even watch rugby?

                                😱 I rescind my agreement to co-coach the Waikato-Magpies Chiefs.

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                                  I think Nepo Laulala is not an automatic choice. He was on the bench in the latter rounds as Angus Taavao was the starter on the tight head. Do not forget Tyrel Lomax either.
                                  On the loose head, I expect a discussion between Tuinukuafe and Moli who came back strongly after his terrible injury.

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                                  @cgrant said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                  On the loose head, I expect a discussion between Tuinukuafe and Moli who came back strongly after his terrible injury.

                                  Yes, Moli must be a good chance to be selected ahead of Karl T, who wasn't sighted for the Blues over the latter part of the season. What is his injury? He looked unfit and there was criticism about his workrate, in particular getting off the ground after tackles/rucks.

                                  I really hope Hemopo goes as a lock/6 ahead of the likes of Fifita. Huge engine on that guy.

                                  Also, I am surprised the Crusaders haven't been playing Bridge on the right wing as he needs to show his versatility because he won't be starting ahead of Ioane on the left. Reece was always a left winger or centre and has adapted to a new position.

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                                    @cgrant said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                    On the loose head, I expect a discussion between Tuinukuafe and Moli who came back strongly after his terrible injury.

                                    Yes, Moli must be a good chance to be selected ahead of Karl T, who wasn't sighted for the Blues over the latter part of the season. What is his injury? He looked unfit and there was criticism about his workrate, in particular getting off the ground after tackles/rucks.

                                    I really hope Hemopo goes as a lock/6 ahead of the likes of Fifita. Huge engine on that guy.

                                    Also, I am surprised the Crusaders haven't been playing Bridge on the right wing as he needs to show his versatility because he won't be starting ahead of Ioane on the left. Reece was always a left winger or centre and has adapted to a new position.

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                                    @Bovidae said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                    Yes, Moli must be a good chance to be selected ahead of Karl T, who wasn't sighted for the Blues over the latter part of the season. What is his injury? He looked unfit and there was criticism about his workrate, in particular getting off the ground after tackles/rucks.

                                    Some kind of virus apparently. Akira Ioane posted an instagram story early this week that had him, Karl T, Ofa T, and Dalton Papalii doing some kind of gut-busting fitness training.

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      @Stargazer said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                      @nzzp Akira may be in the 41-squad, but I can't see him take a spot in the RWC squad either. I think both Savea and Squire provide sufficient cover for no. 8.

                                      i love how people are still cool taking Squire, who has form doing dumb thug shit and getting binned for it. In a big game on the weekend no less.

                                      It's funny the length of rope some players get that aren't afforded to others.

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                                      @mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                      It's funny the length of rope some players get that aren't afforded to others.

                                      I’ll say. There was seemingly infinite rope when it came to Jeff Wilson’s AB career. Should’ve been put on the scrap heap in 94 after the Gregan tackle.

                                      🤙

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                                        @mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                        It's funny the length of rope some players get that aren't afforded to others.

                                        I’ll say. There was seemingly infinite rope when it came to Jeff Wilson’s AB career. Should’ve been put on the scrap heap in 94 after the Gregan tackle.

                                        🤙

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                                        @ACT-Crusader said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                        @mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                        It's funny the length of rope some players get that aren't afforded to others.

                                        I’ll say. There was seemingly infinite rope when it came to Jeff Wilson’s AB career. Should’ve been put on the scrap heap in 94 after the Gregan tackle.

                                        🤙

                                        Yeah he never was that good for the BC's after that.

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          @mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                          It's funny the length of rope some players get that aren't afforded to others.

                                          but Squire is an enforcer, a hardman!

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                                          @taniwharugby said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                          @mariner4life said in World Cup Squad Positions:

                                          It's funny the length of rope some players get that aren't afforded to others.

                                          but Squire is an enforcer, a hardman!

                                          Squire is a rabbit killer, looks good against weaker opposition, but offers little against better sides

                                          Hemepo OTOH is a stud He should be in RWC ahead of both Squire & S Barrett who like Squire is a bit of a flat track bully but not to the same extent as Squire

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