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2019 Rugby Championship

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    @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

    @Nepia I wasn't whining (I think I'm the only one who mentioned him). I was just expressing my disappointment. That's not the same thing.

    I think he competes mostly with Jordie and Bridge, because he's first and foremost a fullback (at least at the Crusaders). I think Ennor is only there because Crotty isn't.

    Think Shag's comments indicate that if RC and Barrett (S) hadn't been injured squad would have been 41.

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    @pakman yeah 39+ Crots & Scooter = 41. That's the squad, two of them can't play for a bit tho.

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      So, aside from the undroppable SBW, who's the luckiest fecker in the Squad, do you think?

      How about who's the most unluggy poor bugger that missed out?

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      For me the luckiest forward is actually Matt Todd. He's a sader, so can't play the first game, and won't be going to Japan (outside of injuries to Ardie or Cane) - he's just another of the bloated number of loose forwards. We know he can cut it, and is first on the plane if injuries strike. I guess he's there cos Ardie has put in the time over SR, and doesn't need much more over RC. Backs it's Jordie, who has the ability to feck oop so badly as to lose us the cup - obviously an SBW who's highlights since RWC15 is a little good defence along with being injured often, a waste of a spot in the 7s team, and losing us the Lions tour is majorly lucky that the Wise Men believe his experience is so useful.

      Unluggy would be Havili, better than Jordie but I guess isn't that 3rd 10 covering one RWC pool game for our 2 normal tens

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      @Machpants I don't think Todd is the luckiest forward and I think he'll go to the RWC, because with Squire gone, Ardie will be used as no. 8 cover and that is a good reason to take another 7 (with Cane able to play 6 as well).

      Luckiest forward to me is Asafo Aumua, who benefits from not having a great third hooker.

      Luckiest back is most definitely SBW. Yuck.

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      • M Machpants

        So, aside from the undroppable SBW, who's the luckiest fecker in the Squad, do you think?

        How about who's the most unluggy poor bugger that missed out?

        71bef9a4-2ddc-4218-bfda-ed58284318be-image.png

        For me the luckiest forward is actually Matt Todd. He's a sader, so can't play the first game, and won't be going to Japan (outside of injuries to Ardie or Cane) - he's just another of the bloated number of loose forwards. We know he can cut it, and is first on the plane if injuries strike. I guess he's there cos Ardie has put in the time over SR, and doesn't need much more over RC. Backs it's Jordie, who has the ability to feck oop so badly as to lose us the cup - obviously an SBW who's highlights since RWC15 is a little good defence along with being injured often, a waste of a spot in the 7s team, and losing us the Lions tour is majorly lucky that the Wise Men believe his experience is so useful.

        Unluggy would be Havili, better than Jordie but I guess isn't that 3rd 10 covering one RWC pool game for our 2 normal tens

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        @Machpants said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

        So, aside from the undroppable SBW, who's the luckiest fecker in the Squad, do you think?

        How about who's the most unluggy poor bugger that missed out?

        71bef9a4-2ddc-4218-bfda-ed58284318be-image.png

        For me the luckiest forward is actually Matt Todd. He's a sader, so can't play the first game, and won't be going to Japan (outside of injuries to Ardie or Cane) - he's just another of the bloated number of loose forwards. We know he can cut it, and is first on the plane if injuries strike. I guess he's there cos Ardie has put in the time over SR, and doesn't need much more over RC. Backs it's Jordie, who has the ability to feck oop so badly as to lose us the cup - obviously an SBW who's highlights since RWC15 is a little good defence along with being injured often, a waste of a spot in the 7s team, and losing us the Lions tour is majorly lucky that the Wise Men believe his experience is so useful.

        Unluggy would be Havili, better than Jordie but I guess isn't that 3rd 10 covering one RWC pool game for our 2 normal tens

        England were leading 15-0 til he went off and Crotty replaced him. Of course this could be coincidence.

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        • StargazerS Stargazer

          @Machpants I don't think Todd is the luckiest forward and I think he'll go to the RWC, because with Squire gone, Ardie will be used as no. 8 cover and that is a good reason to take another 7 (with Cane able to play 6 as well).

          Luckiest forward to me is Asafo Aumua, who benefits from not having a great third hooker.

          Luckiest back is most definitely SBW. Yuck.

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          @Stargazer
          Todd will edge Jacobson purely on experience, if Todd was the same age with the same experience as Jacobson the would surely pick Jacobson.

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            Luckiest back is Jordie. At least SBW has some runs on the board for the ABs unlike Jordie.

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            • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

              Luckiest back is Jordie. At least SBW has some runs on the board for the ABs unlike Jordie.

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              @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

              Luckiest back is Jordie. At least SBW has some runs on the board for the ABs unlike Jordie.

              Jordie B is well worth his spot Cover #10 #12 #13 #14 #15

              Havilli cover #12 and #15

              Havilli is not as good a player as Jordie B so he'll have wait in line like Laumape for the 2020 team or hope someone gets injured to make 2019 RWC squad

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                So who's going to start at six?

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                • TimT Tim

                  So who's going to start at six?

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                  @Tim said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                  So who's going to start at six?

                  No idea, we've got approx 32 6's in the squad, none with any real international experience, hopefully the selectors have an idea

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                  • NepiaN Nepia

                    @number9 said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                    So how does that drop kick Aumua make the ABs when he has played like shit all season.

                    I guess because Harris is liable to hit me in Australia when throwing into the lineout in Auckland.

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                    @Nepia said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                    I guess because Harris is liable to hit me in Australia when throwing into the lineout in Auckland.

                    All jokes aside Harris' throwing is still better than Aumua's.

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                    • TimT Tim

                      So who's going to start at six?

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                      @Tim said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                      So who's going to start at six?

                      If Ardie is going 8, I'd probably opt for Papali'i. Reckon they'll be looking hard at Frizzell and Hemopo though with Read playing the role he is these days. Jacobson to show he's a perfect bench man.

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                      • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

                        @Stargazer
                        Todd will edge Jacobson purely on experience, if Todd was the same age with the same experience as Jacobson the would surely pick Jacobson.

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                        @mofitzy_ said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                        Todd will edge Jacobson purely on experience, if Todd was the same age with the same experience as Jacobson the would surely pick Jacobson.

                        Both Jacobson and Papali'i can cover 7 as well as other positions, while Todd is only a 7. In a squad of 31 utilities become important.

                        BTW, Jacobson was listed as playing 7 for Hautapu last Sat.

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                        • M Machpants

                          @number9 Cos the AB selectors know more about selecting than you, I guess. He's been good, and has long term upsides. They're developing like they did Ardie, apprentice etc. he turned out alright in the end.

                          I hope one of those extended number of lose forwards stands up and grips the 6 position, cos there are tons of almost players there. It will be worse if none do cos then we may have an undercooked Squire pulled in. ALso I really hope SBW either totally owns it or totally stuffs up. As with 6, midfield is a mess and really needs time together - IMO ABs tests are not he place to bring a player up to speed. And SBW is well off pace, and Crotty out for entire RC - a mess.

                          Just what we need at a RWC, midfield conundrums - goes really well that.

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                          @Machpants said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                          @number9 Cos the AB selectors know more about selecting than you, I guess. He's been good, and has long term upsides. They're developing like they did Ardie, apprentice etc. he turned out alright in the end.

                          I hope one of those extended number of lose forwards stands up and grips the 6 position, cos there are tons of almost players there. It will be worse if none do cos then we may have an undercooked Squire pulled in. ALso I really hope SBW either totally owns it or totally stuffs up. As with 6, midfield is a mess and really needs time together - IMO ABs tests are not he place to bring a player up to speed. And SBW is well off pace, and Crotty out for entire RC - a mess.

                          Just what we need at a RWC, midfield conundrums - goes really well that.

                          That has got to the most piss weak arguement for a selection that I have ever read. Aumua has had a terrible season, Ardie was brilliant from the get go. No comparison it is like comparing a jet engine to your Morris Minor.

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @Tim said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                            So who's going to start at six?

                            If Ardie is going 8, I'd probably opt for Papali'i. Reckon they'll be looking hard at Frizzell and Hemopo though with Read playing the role he is these days. Jacobson to show he's a perfect bench man.

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                            @Bones said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                            @Tim said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                            So who's going to start at six?

                            If Ardie is going 8, I'd probably opt for Papali'i. Reckon they'll be looking hard at Frizzell and Hemopo though with Read playing the role he is these days. Jacobson to show he's a perfect bench man.

                            Anyone else you can mention before stooping to bringing up poor old Vaea Fifita ?

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              @Tim said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              So who's going to start at six?

                              If Ardie is going 8, I'd probably opt for Papali'i. Reckon they'll be looking hard at Frizzell and Hemopo though with Read playing the role he is these days. Jacobson to show he's a perfect bench man.

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                              @Bones said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              @Tim said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                              So who's going to start at six?

                              If Ardie is going 8, I'd probably opt for Papali'i. Reckon they'll be looking hard at Frizzell and Hemopo though with Read playing the role he is these days. Jacobson to show he's a perfect bench man.

                              Last year in Nelson it was Frizzel-Savea-Read.

                              My guess is:
                              6 Frizzel
                              7 Cane
                              8 Savea

                              Hemopo and Jacobson/Papali'i on the bench. I'd like to see Hemopo get some time at 6 in these 2 tests.

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                              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                @Bones said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                @Tim said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                So who's going to start at six?

                                If Ardie is going 8, I'd probably opt for Papali'i. Reckon they'll be looking hard at Frizzell and Hemopo though with Read playing the role he is these days. Jacobson to show he's a perfect bench man.

                                Last year in Nelson it was Frizzel-Savea-Read.

                                My guess is:
                                6 Frizzel
                                7 Cane
                                8 Savea

                                Hemopo and Jacobson/Papali'i on the bench. I'd like to see Hemopo get some time at 6 in these 2 tests.

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                                @Bovidae said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                @Bones said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                @Tim said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                So who's going to start at six?

                                If Ardie is going 8, I'd probably opt for Papali'i. Reckon they'll be looking hard at Frizzell and Hemopo though with Read playing the role he is these days. Jacobson to show he's a perfect bench man.

                                Last year in Nelson it was Frizzel-Savea-Read.

                                My guess is:
                                6 Frizzel
                                7 Cane
                                8 Savea

                                Hemopo and Jacobson/Papali'i on the bench. I'd like to see Hemopo get some time at 6 in these 2 tests.

                                Frizell and Fifita have one thing in common. Trampling Argies. 6 and 8 maybe ?

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                                • CanerbryC Canerbry

                                  And as we know Grant Fox has his documented hangups about Cantabs.

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                                  @Canerbry said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  And as we know Grant Fox has his documented hangups about Cantabs.

                                  Understandable

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                                  • CanerbryC Canerbry

                                    And as we know Grant Fox has his documented hangups about Cantabs.

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                                    @Canerbry said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    And as we know Grant Fox has his documented hangups about Cantabs.

                                    And Hansen who carries the selector's hammer clearly doesn't.

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                                      So the game against Argentina is 2 weeks after the super rugby final.... why can’t the players in the final play this match? 2 weeks........

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                                        So the game against Argentina is 2 weeks after the super rugby final.... why can’t the players in the final play this match? 2 weeks........

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                                        @Yeahtheboys said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                        So the game against Argentina is 2 weeks after the super rugby final.... why can’t the players in the final play this match? 2 weeks........

                                        Rest after playing finals footy

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                          Luckiest back is Jordie. At least SBW has some runs on the board for the ABs unlike Jordie.

                                          Jordie B is well worth his spot Cover #10 #12 #13 #14 #15

                                          Havilli cover #12 and #15

                                          Havilli is not as good a player as Jordie B so he'll have wait in line like Laumape for the 2020 team or hope someone gets injured to make 2019 RWC squad

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                                          @Jaguares4real said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                          @KiwiMurph said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                          Luckiest back is Jordie. At least SBW has some runs on the board for the ABs unlike Jordie.

                                          Jordie B is well worth his spot Cover #10 #12 #13 #14 #15

                                          Havilli cover #12 and #15

                                          Havilli is not as good a player as Jordie B so he'll have wait in line like Laumape for the 2020 team or hope someone gets injured to make 2019 RWC squad

                                          Jordie Barrett can kick goals from 50 + meters. This is a quality which can win a WC. But as an all round player, Havili has been better than JB during the whole SR competition.

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