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2019 Māori All Blacks

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  • 9 98blueandgold

    @Stargazer TTT has looked poor, question is though has playing 10min a game all year then expecting to play int. Rugby in Fiji a factor?

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    @98blueandgold Chicken and egg thing, probably. Not getting much game time because he started the season unfit and wasn't good enough; and not having the opportunity to improve because he didn't get much game time.

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      @98blueandgold Chicken and egg thing, probably. Not getting much game time because he started the season unfit and wasn't good enough; and not having the opportunity to improve because he didn't get much game time.

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      @Stargazer agree with you 😊

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        After watching this game, I suspect their will be several changes from the starting lineup
        The first changes I would make is in the halves..with Hall and Smith,..

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          Yep Black is mediocre.

          Interestingly I was looking at stats for Super Rugby and defensively Thompson doesn't make nearly as many tackles as AB centres.

          ALB, Goodhue and Crotty all made between 110 - 120 tackles and Thompson had made only 59. Number of games played was pretty similar.

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          @KiwiMurph Can't take too much from those stats. The 1014 guys had an item on that about a month ago. The Landers overall made far less tackles than last season, for example.

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          • 9 98blueandgold

            This is a good Fiji side. With most of their team cemented in nth hemisphere they could rattle cages at WC. I would suspect not many int. Teams Would come away with a W playing in Suva. Gone are the days of them being beaten by 70-100.

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            @98blueandgold Yeah, they're looking good and are going to be dangerous. The French test last November was a sign of things to come. I wonder whether this is already their strongest line-up. I vaguely remember reading that they're still missing a few players.

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              @KiwiMurph Can't take too much from those stats. The 1014 guys had an item on that about a month ago. The Landers overall made far less tackles than last season, for example.

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              @Stargazer thanks that's interesting. I did notice his defence get exposed in the quarter final however.

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                Parkinson has confirmed to me today what I have been thinking all season - at this stage of his career he is showing he is going to be another Dominic Bird.

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                • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                  Parkinson has confirmed to me today what I have been thinking all season - at this stage of his career he is showing he is going to be another Dominic Bird.

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                  @Crazy-Horse Play for the Chiefs?

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                  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                    Parkinson has confirmed to me today what I have been thinking all season - at this stage of his career he is showing he is going to be another Dominic Bird.

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                    @Crazy-Horse will cut him some slack, he’s only a young fella, little bit early to start comparing him to a Bird..the damage was done in the first half when we decided to kick all our ball away..the reserves all added energy,Hall added some much needed direction, Nankerville some much needed thrust.but unfortunately they were left too much to do..
                    Thought Karpick was industrious throughout, and Sean Wainui tried hard..but apart from those 2,the rest of the starting VX should be taking a long look at themselves
                    Quite confident they will turn it around in 7 x days..miracle passes don’t often stick when it’s 5 degrees and dew is around.

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                    • S Steven Harris

                      After watching this game, I suspect their will be several changes from the starting lineup
                      The first changes I would make is in the halves..with Hall and Smith,..

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                      @Steven-Harris said in 2019 Māori All Blacks:

                      After watching this game, I suspect their will be several changes from the starting lineup
                      The first changes I would make is in the halves..with Hall and Smith,..

                      Yeah, it's going to be interesting what they are going to do, particularly in the backrow. The player who didn't get game time is Harmon, so he's likely to play next game; however, he's an openside and Karpik was the best loosie on the field today, so you don't want to take him out of the line-up. Akira was the worst, but do they dare to leave him out? Douglas should start at 8. I think the question will be, who will play at 6, Prinsep or Akira? Harmon will probably end up on the bench; I'd give Karpik the start again.

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                        Plenty of work to do before Rotovegas. Outmuscled up front and dysfunctional in the backs.

                        Changes need to be made. Agree with @Steven-Harris that Wainui and Karpik were the pick of the players.

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                          It would be nice if the TJs could actually have kept up with the play as plenty of forward passes were missed too.

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                            It would be nice if the TJs could actually have kept up with the play as plenty of forward passes were missed too.

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                            @Bovidae Fortunately, for next week's game there will be a TMO and better camera work.

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                              A couple of tackle-attempts to forget in there:

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                                  Was at the Treaty grounds (never been before) today (listening to Nga Puhi propaganda) so was unable to watch the game ... sounds like I was lucky.

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                                    Shit there was some average defence in there (and a ton of forward passes). Ioane been on IV fish and chips?

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                                      That was boys v men. Offloads through the line and a crapload of missed tackles.

                                      Plus not starting Bryn Hall.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        Plenty of work to do before Rotovegas. Outmuscled up front and dysfunctional in the backs.

                                        Changes need to be made. Agree with @Steven-Harris that Wainui and Karpik were the pick of the players.

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                                        @Bovidae said in 2019 Māori All Blacks:

                                        Plenty of work to do before Rotovegas. Outmuscled up front and dysfunctional in the backs.

                                        Changes need to be made. Agree with @Steven-Harris that Wainui and Karpik were the pick of the players.

                                        I didn't think Wainui did very much. A bad dropped ball in contact and whilst he scored two tries but he probably ran a combined 7 metres for both tries. I'd argue the Nankiville and Hall made a huge impact when they took the field. I agree with you that Karpik was great.

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                                        • TimT Tim

                                          Can this Fiji team beat Australia?

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                                          @Tim said in 2019 Māori All Blacks:

                                          Can this Fiji team beat Australia?

                                          Yes

                                          Will they? No

                                          If Maori have a good week they could easily square the series next outing.

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