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TRC: Pumas v All Blacks

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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    @Jaguares4real Yeah, Reece played both on the left and right wing for the Crusaders, too.

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    @Stargazer said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @Jaguares4real Yeah, Reece played both on the left and right wing for the Crusaders, too.

    @Stargazer said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @Jaguares4real Yeah, Reece played both on the left and right wing for the Crusaders, too.

    Cheers

    Furthers reinforces my point about wingers Shouldn't matter at that level if you play #11 or #14

    I'd expect Hansen to taken 5 outside backs to Japan: Bender Ioane Reece Bridge J Barrett

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      @Stargazer said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

      @Jaguares4real Yeah, Reece played both on the left and right wing for the Crusaders, too.

      @Stargazer said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

      @Jaguares4real Yeah, Reece played both on the left and right wing for the Crusaders, too.

      Cheers

      Furthers reinforces my point about wingers Shouldn't matter at that level if you play #11 or #14

      I'd expect Hansen to taken 5 outside backs to Japan: Bender Ioane Reece Bridge J Barrett

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      @Jaguares4real for those that kick off either foot it definitely shouldn't be an issue. But if they are limited kicking-wise it can be a factor. With the number of hybrid winger-fullbacks it's become less of an issue in recent times.

      Hmm in saying that I am not sure if I've even seen Reiko kick for touch!?

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        @Stargazer said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

        @Jaguares4real Yeah, Reece played both on the left and right wing for the Crusaders, too.

        @Stargazer said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

        @Jaguares4real Yeah, Reece played both on the left and right wing for the Crusaders, too.

        Cheers

        Furthers reinforces my point about wingers Shouldn't matter at that level if you play #11 or #14

        I'd expect Hansen to taken 5 outside backs to Japan: Bender Ioane Reece Bridge J Barrett

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        @Jaguares4real Makes a difference, though - if you're a right sided player you'll prefer to carry the ball in your right hand, kick with your right foot and step off your right foot - all of which make it advantageous to play on the right wing.

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          Sevu Reece is essentially the Naholo of 2015

          Even had a offshore contract lined up.....

          I don't see the big fuss about Bridge & Rieko Iaone playing #11 or #14

          Surely playing the role is interchangeable

          Heck I even saw Reece with a #11 on his back for Waikato

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          @Jaguares4real said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

          @Hooroo

          Sevu Reece is essentially the Naholo of 2015
          Even had a offshore contract lined up.....
          I don't see the big fuss about Bridge & Rieko Iaone playing #11 or #14
          Surely playing the role is interchangeable
          Heck I even saw Reece with a #11 on his back for Waikato

          Hansen said Corey Jane struggled playing 11.
          Something about jumping off the wrong foot when taking high balls.
          I'd think it natural to more used to fending with a certain hand and leading with a certain foot when jumping. Not saying wingers shouldn't be able to play both sides, but it's pretty natural to prefer one side.

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          • Chris B.C Chris B.

            @Jaguares4real Makes a difference, though - if you're a right sided player you'll prefer to carry the ball in your right hand, kick with your right foot and step off your right foot - all of which make it advantageous to play on the right wing.

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            @Chris-B especially with that almost forgotten skill of moving the ball to other arm to fend 😉 but know what you mean

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @Chris-B especially with that almost forgotten skill of moving the ball to other arm to fend 😉 but know what you mean

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              @taniwharugby said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

              @Chris-B especially with that almost forgotten skill of moving the ball to other arm to fend 😉 but know what you mean

              Moreover you would be using your stronger hand to fend off any potential tacklers

              Though I'll admit offloading using your weaker hand might be more challenging

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              • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                @Chris-B especially with that almost forgotten skill of moving the ball to other arm to fend 😉 but know what you mean

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                @taniwharugby said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                @Chris-B especially with that almost forgotten skill of moving the ball to other arm to fend 😉 but know what you mean

                Exactly - if you're running for the right hand corner you want the ball in your right hand to both protect it and have your inside arm available to fend. And even as you dive to score the try, you preferably go off your right foot to help keep you being driven into touch.

                In a game of inches all these things can be important.

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                  Speaking from experience when I played on the wing it was always on the left. Not only am I left-footed but it is easier to step off your dominant foot.

                  There aren't many top players who are comfortable playing on both wings and you still see players kick with the in-step of their dominant foot because they can't kick with the other foot.

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                    George Bridge is right-handed, so I assume that means he's also right-footed. Yet, he plays on the left wing. You'd think he should be able to play on the right wing, too.

                    Edit: Rieko Ioane is right-handed, too.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      George Bridge is right-handed, so I assume that means he's also right-footed. Yet, he plays on the left wing. You'd think he should be able to play on the right wing, too.

                      Edit: Rieko Ioane is right-handed, too.

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                      @Stargazer Dan Carter was right-handed but kicked with his left foot.

                      You only have to look at cricketers to know there isn't always a correlation between the two.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        George Bridge is right-handed, so I assume that means he's also right-footed. Yet, he plays on the left wing. You'd think he should be able to play on the right wing, too.

                        Edit: Rieko Ioane is right-handed, too.

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                        @Stargazer On the other hand, I write with my left hand, but am right sided for everything rugby related - except signing autographs after the game. 🙂

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                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                          @Stargazer On the other hand, I write with my left hand, but am right sided for everything rugby related - except signing autographs after the game. 🙂

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                          @Chris-B You, me and Richie. 🙂

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                          • BovidaeB Bovidae

                            @Stargazer Dan Carter was right-handed but kicked with his left foot.

                            You only have to look at cricketers to know there isn't always a correlation between the two.

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                            @Bovidae said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                            @Stargazer Dan Carter was right-handed but kicked with his left foot.

                            You only have to look at cricketers to know there isn't always a correlation between the two.

                            Ha, there goes my assumption. 🙂

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                            • F Frank

                              Reece is bloody lucky.

                              • no utility value
                              • not particularly good defense
                              • good fortune of being on the end of a dominant team's backline at Super level
                              • outside the AB center at Super rugby level
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                              @Frank said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                              Reece is bloody lucky.

                              • no utility value
                              • not particularly good defense
                              • good fortune of being on the end of a dominant team's backline at Super level
                              • outside the AB center at Super rugby level

                              He's fast though. Which means I can shout at the TV "Go, Reece lightnin"

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                                @Frank said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                Reece is bloody lucky.

                                • no utility value
                                • not particularly good defense
                                • good fortune of being on the end of a dominant team's backline at Super level
                                • outside the AB center at Super rugby level

                                He's fast though. Which means I can shout at the TV "Go, Reece lightnin"

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                                @Billy-Tell said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                @Frank said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                Reece is bloody lucky.

                                • no utility value
                                • not particularly good defense
                                • good fortune of being on the end of a dominant team's backline at Super level
                                • outside the AB center at Super rugby level

                                He's fast though. Which means I can shout at the TV "Go, Reece lightnin"

                                Been shouting that all year at the crusaders games 🙂

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                                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                  Bridge’s utility is that he can play fullback.

                                  I know that, but it's the right wing position that seems to be undecided in the starting XV (unless Ioane is moved).

                                  With DMac injured I expect BFA to remain at fullback now. Jordie seems to be pencilled in as the ultimate outside back utility who could play at 12 too if required. That might mean they are reconsidering the makeup of their midfield/outside back balance.

                                  Ennor is the midfield cover so that makes sense.

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                                  @Bovidae said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                  @ACT-Crusader said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                  Bridge’s utility is that he can play fullback.

                                  I know that, but it's the right wing position that seems to be undecided in the starting XV (unless Ioane is moved).

                                  With DMac injured I expect BFA to remain at fullback now. Jordie seems to be pencilled in as the ultimate outside back utility who could play at 12 too if required. That might mean they are reconsidering the makeup of their midfield/outside back balance.

                                  Ennor is the midfield cover so that makes sense.

                                  Ioane has spent some AB time on the right also. I’m sure he’s played both sides for the Blues as well.

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                                    No Bridge? Dry powder.

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                                      The All Blacks are going to need one fookin fast winger. If Reiko Ioane is injured, then Reece is the obvious next Man of Speed.

                                      Not sure Reece makes the 31 but will need him ready to be drafted an injury.

                                      My guess is that only one of Jordie or Ennor will make the RWC squad. Both are outside the 23 for the knockouts but could be excellent utility to fill in across the backline in the group games.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        No Bridge? Dry powder.

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                                        @Bones said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                        No Bridge? Dry powder.

                                        It’s only a friendly

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                                        • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                          @Jaguares4real Makes a difference, though - if you're a right sided player you'll prefer to carry the ball in your right hand, kick with your right foot and step off your right foot - all of which make it advantageous to play on the right wing.

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                                          @Chris-B said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                          @Jaguares4real Makes a difference, though - if you're a right sided player you'll prefer to carry the ball in your right hand, kick with your right foot and step off your right foot - all of which make it advantageous to play on the right wing.

                                          I preferred playing right wing , stepped better off my right, kicked off my right, passed better back inside

                                          But if playing midfield, preferred attacking the left side of the field where my right handed passes were better,

                                          I think even at the highest level, players have similar strengths and weaknesses

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