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TRC: Pumas v All Blacks

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    @Winger said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    Not the best game. Unlike many I wasn't that impressed with Reece. Whereas Jordie playing out of position was OK. For the RWC Jordie is a better selection than Reece

    B Barrett had a good game. I also thought Ben Smith did ok. But I would have him on the wing and Jordie at FB if both start.

    My view is Perenara should have started this game

    J Barrett was absolute, utter garbage. And he keeps serving this kind of performance up for the ABs. I'm starting to get really annoyed by his face. I think i want to punch it. Now I understand that whole arc in Step Brothers.

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    @shark said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    @Winger said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

    Not the best game. Unlike many I wasn't that impressed with Reece. Whereas Jordie playing out of position was OK. For the RWC Jordie is a better selection than Reece

    B Barrett had a good game. I also thought Ben Smith did ok. But I would have him on the wing and Jordie at FB if both start.

    My view is Perenara should have started this game

    J Barrett was absolute, utter garbage. And he keeps serving this kind of performance up for the ABs. I'm starting to get really annoyed by his face. I think i want to punch it. Now I understand that whole arc in Step Brothers.

    I'd like to punch that idiot Sam Casey from the Farming Show, too. They're a very smack-able pairing actually. Any of the Dunedin based Ferners heard the same thing I did re the Maccas incident and the bullshit explanation?

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    • sparkyS sparky

      The highlights:

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      @sparky said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

      The highlights:

      Think you posted wrong there. The video shows the anthems then the Ref blowing full time.

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        Thought josh Ioane had a mistake free debut. So that’s something.

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          Jordie Barrett fails to impress.....again
          George Bridge would be a much better wing/fullback.

          Fifita given another chance. and didn't take it. Of the all of 6s I've seen in the past couple of years, the most impressive for me has been Jackson Hemopo.

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          • Billy TellB Billy Tell

            Dreadful game.

            Was never on the plane to japan anyway, but Tuipulotu was anonymous.

            Coltman might have the selectors looking at Harris again if he can’t nail his throws.

            Outside our top 23, our depth is pretty thin.

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            @Billy-Tell said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

            Dreadful game.

            Was never on the plane to japan anyway, but Tuipulotu was anonymous.

            Coltman might have the selectors looking at Harris again if he can’t nail his throws.

            Outside our top 23, our depth is pretty thin.

            Coltman going Stevie Wonder with his darts was ugly No clear 3rd choice Hooker

            ABs been showing signs of significant decline last 6-8 Test matches

            The 2020 ABs will be essentially this latest squad selected plus Moody C Taylor S Barrett Mo'unga Goodhue + DMAC

            Take out Ben Smith and BBB & suddenly All Blacks looking like they've got a glass chin 🥊 🥊 Very beatable to say the least

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            • Rancid SchnitzelR Rancid Schnitzel

              @Machpants said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

              @Rancid-Schnitzel said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

              Just watched the Ardie shoulder charge incident again. Disgraceful. Happened right in front of Gardner and he just waved it on. Could very easily have led to a try.

              Have you got a time stamp?

              51:00 exactly.

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              @Rancid-Schnitzel yeah I think they may have been fortunate that passage of play went on for numerous more phases and nothing of consequence happened otherwise it would well have been abit of an issue for the Argie.

              Thought for the most part, Angus was pretty good though, missed a few things as all refs do, although didnt really impact the way the game was moving at the time.

              BOth of our wings struggled to get into the game, Reece poor on defence but can catch, Jordie cant catch but can tackle.

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              • sharkS shark

                @Winger said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                Not the best game. Unlike many I wasn't that impressed with Reece. Whereas Jordie playing out of position was OK. For the RWC Jordie is a better selection than Reece

                B Barrett had a good game. I also thought Ben Smith did ok. But I would have him on the wing and Jordie at FB if both start.

                My view is Perenara should have started this game

                J Barrett was absolute, utter garbage. And he keeps serving this kind of performance up for the ABs. I'm starting to get really annoyed by his face. I think i want to punch it. Now I understand that whole arc in Step Brothers.

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                @shark said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                @Winger said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                Not the best game. Unlike many I wasn't that impressed with Reece. Whereas Jordie playing out of position was OK. For the RWC Jordie is a better selection than Reece

                B Barrett had a good game. I also thought Ben Smith did ok. But I would have him on the wing and Jordie at FB if both start.

                My view is Perenara should have started this game

                J Barrett was absolute, utter garbage. And he keeps serving this kind of performance up for the ABs. I'm starting to get really annoyed by his face. I think i want to punch it. Now I understand that whole arc in Step Brothers.

                I'm sure if he was playing for the crusaders you would think differently.

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                • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                  @Rancid-Schnitzel yeah I think they may have been fortunate that passage of play went on for numerous more phases and nothing of consequence happened otherwise it would well have been abit of an issue for the Argie.

                  Thought for the most part, Angus was pretty good though, missed a few things as all refs do, although didnt really impact the way the game was moving at the time.

                  BOth of our wings struggled to get into the game, Reece poor on defence but can catch, Jordie cant catch but can tackle.

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                  @taniwharugby

                  But some of the passes weren't the best. For example Coles should held on to the ball not shuffled out a pass. In general there was too much of this from the ABs

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                  • WingerW Winger

                    @taniwharugby

                    But some of the passes weren't the best. For example Coles should held on to the ball not shuffled out a pass. In general there was too much of this from the ABs

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                    @Winger these guys are professional rugby players, they should not be shelling that many.

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                      Well, that was, um, something.

                      As a club game it was pretty good. As a test match it was dogshit.

                      Positives. Defensively we were pretty good. The new kids were trusted with winning a tight one, and did. And the scrum.

                      On the other side? Fuuuck. Headless fucking rubbish. If the game plan was no game plan, then we stuck to it with relish. Shit passes to guys in bad positions. Mistake after mistake. The midfield unit was a disaster. The attack was as disjointed as is possible to be. What the fuck was that 2nd half?

                      Fifita surely played his way out of the team, worst player on the field. JBarrett makes so many dumb errors. That was ALBs worst game of 2019. Retallic kept giving away dumb penalties. We are so very poor as a team kicking from hand.

                      So at least we won and no one got hurt?

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                        Well I enjoyed that, first game of the year missing a number of stars against an Argie side who are no longer pushovers at home, it was always going to be close.

                        Bit rusty in execution but overall I think we did reasonably well. BB was great as too Savea and Retallick. Scrum held up well. Good to see Coles and Cane back. Jordie had a few errors but definitely worth persevering with for his boot and potential with his height. Newbies weren't over awed and gained some valuable close test match experience. Thought Gardner controlled the game beautifully, great communication with his assistants and let the game flow without missing much.

                        We'll be a lot better next game, Puma's are going to rue this missed opportunity for a long time, especially Sanchez missing that last penalty.

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                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                          @Rancid-Schnitzel yeah I think they may have been fortunate that passage of play went on for numerous more phases and nothing of consequence happened otherwise it would well have been abit of an issue for the Argie.

                          Thought for the most part, Angus was pretty good though, missed a few things as all refs do, although didnt really impact the way the game was moving at the time.

                          BOth of our wings struggled to get into the game, Reece poor on defence but can catch, Jordie cant catch but can tackle.

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                          @taniwharugby said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                          Reece poor on defence but can catch, Jordie cant catch but can tackle.

                          Yup. A RWC combo of Ioane, Bridge & Smith became more likely today

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                            Was it Reece with the poor defensive read when he came off his wing in the second half and BB had to pull off a try saver? Never saw a replay so couldn't judge how bad it was.

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                            • ToddyT Toddy

                              Was it Reece with the poor defensive read when he came off his wing in the second half and BB had to pull off a try saver? Never saw a replay so couldn't judge how bad it was.

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                              @Toddy said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                              Was it Reece with the poor defensive read when he came off his wing in the second half and BB had to pull off a try saver? Never saw a replay so couldn't judge how bad it was.

                              Yep. Bad decision from the rookie. Great defense from Barrett to clean it up.

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                                Have to say, I never like it when we go an entire half without scoring a single point.

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                                  Rusty game. First up with so many players missing not surprising.

                                  Fifita and Jordie were really bad.

                                  I thought Ofa was great - got through a mountain of work.

                                  Ardie outstanding.

                                  Jacobson showed some promise on debut.

                                  Beauden class but his punting as usual could improve a lot.

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                                    Geez Hansen is starting to annoy me.

                                    Before the test "This game is all about getting a good look at some of the new/fringe guys and starting to implement our structure".

                                    ....that...

                                    After the test "I feel like we really got a good chance to see everyone and we certainly learnt a lot."

                                    Really? First of all it seems like we still have the same structure from EOYT (none). Not enough ball went Reece's way and we saw at most 23 minutes of the bench and most of that was without ball in hand. I guess we saw more solid play from Laumape - but he still won't be picked and we saw more poor play from Jordie and he still will be picked. So how did we learn anything? Oh and you just Spiced Josh Ioane - good one.

                                    If you are going to talk up one thing going into the test, at least front up when it doesn't go to plan.

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                                      Laumape was pretty good individually I thought.

                                      What did I learn Steve? I learned we still don't have a settled midfield. I learned that probably our best 12 is probably not going.

                                      And we are going to be left with either a porcelain journeyman to combo with our best center by default. Or we are going with a mismatch.

                                      Top planning.

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                                        @sparky said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                        One of the worst All Black performance of all-time from Fifita. Totally out of his depth at this level.

                                        Reminiscent of Sione Lauaki (RIP) vs Wallabies in Sydney

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                                        @sparky said in TRC: Pumas v All Blacks:

                                        One of the worst All Black performance of all-time from Fifita. Totally out of his depth at this level.

                                        The worst I can remember of late was James Broadhurst vs SA. Poor guy not only played poorly also got CTE for his troubles.

                                        Outside that Donald 2010. (Although pretty sure that got deleted from the history books after 2011 and him getting knighted).

                                        Fafita was up there

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          Laumape was pretty good individually I thought.

                                          What did I learn Steve? I learned we still don't have a settled midfield. I learned that probably our best 12 is probably not going.

                                          And we are going to be left with either a porcelain journeyman to combo with our best center by default. Or we are going with a mismatch.

                                          Top planning.

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                                          @mariner4life problem is, next week we are likely to see around half the team swapped out, possibly a positional change or 2 as well, so any rustiness and lack of cohesion will likely still be there, wont be until week 3 (v Aus) where we might see our 'best' team who have played together 1 time already, even then, probably still be tinkering...but then the way Aus are tracking, what will that show us?

                                          I really hope we see an ALB/Goodhue mid-field...

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