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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Baron Silas Greenback" data-cid="514026" data-time="1441607647">
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<p>I just voted 6 times....</p>
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<p>cool poll bro... but maybe they should have used more poll 'experts' </p>
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<p>I don't think i can trust anyone who votes on a poll who isn't a qualified market researcher! i mean, we don't let graphic designers select the All Blacks...</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Winger" data-cid="514006" data-time="1441604658">
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<p>I said a committee of 6 above with half having appropriate training and proven work experience and the other half related skills. Like a flag expert and head of an adverting agency</p>
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<p>No inappropriate selections like an ex AB.</p>
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<p>Its like the chairmen of NZRU might not be the best AB selector but might be on the committee ... But a graphical designer with no interest in rugby is inappropriate</p>
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<p>Why is a former ab captain and coach not appropriate? </p> -
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<p>Ha, it was the Hundertwasser Art Museum I referred to earlier that went to referendum up here...</p>
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<p>I looked at that Art Museum's plans - it looked nice. Would check out if I was up in Whangarei. Anyway, Hundertwasser who was a famous artist obviously though a koru, or a 'corporate logo' could be acceptable for a national flag. Good thing for Winger he wasn't on the panel!</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="Baron Silas Greenback" data-cid="514026" data-time="1441607647">
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<p>I just voted 6 times....</p>
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<p>cool poll bro... but maybe they should have used more poll 'experts' </p>
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<p>Its only a poll to include the Red Peak in the final 4 or 5</p>
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<p>its obvious that this should happen. Then let the public decide. If the public went for one of the other awful deigns then so be it</p> -
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<p>Why is a former ab captain and coach not appropriate? </p>
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<p> For the reason given above</p>
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<p>If BJ has had some appropriate work experience then great. But I doubt it</p> -
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<p>Its only a poll to include the Red Peak in the final 4 or 5</p>
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<p>its obvious that this should happen. Then let the public decide. If the public went for one of the other awful deigns then so be it</p>
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<p>Obvious to who? I think it is obvious it should not be included.</p> -
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<p> For the reason given above</p>
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<p>If BJ has had some appropriate work experience then great. But I doubt it</p>
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<p>Where is this flag design industry in which BJ could have gained work experience?</p> -
<p>Graphic designers, public relations experts, media experts, imaging teams, marketing folks - basically every professional to do with design and representation all went into a room together to come up with an iconic logo, for an iconic sporting event.</p>
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<p>After significant, time and costs, they represented and unveiled their final design, (labelling it catchy, modern, exciting and all sorts of other marketing type words), to huge fanfare and accolades. Designers the world over were all blown away that such a modern and exciting twist could be put in the most traditional of events in the most traditional of countries.</p>
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<p>When the design was shown to the globe, they rest of the planet immediately saw the same thing. A famous 8 year old cartoon character performing fellatio. There is no right and wrong process. But what can be viewed by many as the most right process, has in history proved to come up with the most wrong result.</p> -
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<p>Its only a poll to include the Red Peak in the final 4 or 5</p>
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<p>its obvious that this should happen. <strong>Then let the public decide. If the public went for one of the other awful deigns then so be it</strong></p>
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<p>Great idea! </p>
<p><img src="http://amylaughinghouse.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/kiwi-flags2-1024x384.jpg" alt="kiwi-flags2-1024x384.jpg"></p> -
There's a thread on planet rugby about the flag , reading the posts of the supporters of the red peak - don , eugenius and a couple of others should be enough to turn you off it. I think the saddest thing is every post they make had something pathetic about Key in it.
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<p>see, Nyan kiwi speaks to us. the blue represents how our island home is surrounded by ocean. We are all kiwis, and some of us are gay, but we can all see the southern cross. </p>
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<p>whereas the other one just reminds me of Dan Carter lining up a kick in Argentina, why should we commemorate that disgraceful episode?</p> -
<p>was Cruden wasnt it?</p>
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<p>yea, i don't remember, the flag is confusing the issue, needs more graphic designers to sort it out</p>
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<p> For the reason given above</p>
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<p>If BJ has had some appropriate work experience then great. But I doubt it</p>
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<p>I would entrust him to make a sound pick more than I would some graphic designer from the Northland Polytech.</p> -
<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="jegga" data-cid="514040" data-time="1441609691"><p>There's a thread on planet rugby about the flag , reading the posts of the supporters of the red peak - don , eugenius and a couple of others should be enough to turn you off it. I think the saddest thing is every post they make had something pathetic about Key in it.</p></blockquote>
That's really odd. I don't see how supporting Red Peak is a way of sticking it to John Key. Seriously, Key must look at some of these people and wonder what the fuck they are even talking about.<br><br>
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<p>I would entrust him to make a sound pick more than I would some graphic designer from the Northland Polytech.</p>
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<p>I worked in a commercial Interior company many years back</p>
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<p>The head male designer was a little outrageous but did outstanding work. He knew what the companies wanted. So he would wear a certain type of clothes or choose a certain design for his house but knew that what he would do for himself was not appropriate for everyone</p>
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<p>The office we worked in (designed by this designer) was easily the best laid out and best colour schemes by miles that I have worked in. Even those that didn't like him agreed that he was top class. Many (or most that I have worked in) office color schemes are boring or clash.</p>
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<p>This is the sort of person that I'm referring to. But with an interest in flags.</p> -
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<blockquote class="ipsBlockquote" data-author="No Quarter" data-cid="514055" data-time="1441613682">
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<p>That's really odd. I don't see how supporting Red Peak is a way of sticking it to John Key. Seriously, Key must look at some of these people and wonder what the fuck they are even talking about.<br><br>
It's sad that people's personal agendas are getting in the way of NZ choosing a new flag for itself.</p>
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<p>Its not true about Key</p> -
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<p>That's really odd. I don't see how supporting Red Peak is a way of sticking it to John Key. Seriously, Key must look at some of these people and wonder what the fuck they are even talking about.<br><br>
It's sad that people's personal agendas are getting in the way of NZ choosing a new flag for itself.</p>
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<p>Its really strange and they seem to all have some sort of "inside knowledge" of Key and how he made his money etc. I wonder if they know they look as sad as the weirdos that ranted about Helen Clark and her husband when she was pm.</p> -
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<p>Its really strange and they seem to all have some sort of "inside knowledge" of Key and how he made his money etc. I wonder if they know they look as sad as the weirdos that ranted about Helen Clark and her husband when she was pm.</p>
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<p>Its nothing to do with Keys except that he's badly f++ked this process up. By selecting a very poor committee</p>
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<p>But the debate should be about a good flag for NZ</p>