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jegga

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That's really odd. I don't see how supporting Red Peak is a way of sticking it to John Key. Seriously, Key must look at some of these people and wonder what the fuck they are even talking about. 
It's sad that people's personal agendas are getting in the way of NZ choosing a new flag for itself.
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Its really strange and they seem to all have some sort of "inside knowledge" of Key and how he made his money etc. I wonder if they know they look as sad as the weirdos that ranted about Helen Clark and her husband when she was pm.

Winger

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Its really strange and they seem to all have some sort of "inside knowledge" of Key and how he made his money etc. I wonder if they know they look as sad as the weirdos that ranted about Helen Clark and her husband when she was pm.
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Its nothing to do with Keys except that he's badly f++ked this process up. By selecting a very poor committee
 
But the debate should be about a good flag for NZ

jegga

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Its not true about Key
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What his lack of graphic design background? True its pretty high on the list of things i look for in a potential prime minister, I shudder to think how he's decorated the top floor of the beehive. I bet theres far too much blue for a start .

Winger

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What his lack of graphic design background? True its pretty high on the list of things i look for in a potential prime minister, I shudder to think how he's decorated the top floor of the beehive. I bet theres far too much blue for a start .
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about everyone going on about him on PR

jegga

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Its nothing to do with Keys except that he's badly f++ked this process up. By selecting a very poor committee
 
But the debate should be about a good flag for NZ
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Have a read of this and read the posts from the sad left wing fools like Don, Eugenius, Enzedder and Douche chill and tell me they aren't using this to take shots at Key <a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='http://forum.planetrugby.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=55769&start=680'>http://forum.planetrugby.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=55769&start=680</a>
Then go over to the Standard and look at the posts there then public address and any other left wing echo chamber , they have made this about Key.
 
Reading between the lines I'm thinking you arent a fan of the committee to pick the flag? you may have mentioned it in passing and I'd like to be sure about that.

taniwharugby

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I worked in a commercial Interior company many years back
 
The head male designer was a little outrageous but did outstanding work. He knew what the companies wanted. So he would wear a certain type of clothes or choose a certain design for his house but knew that what he would do for himself was not appropriate for everyone
 
The office we worked in (designed by this designer) was easily the best laid out and best colour schemes by miles that I have worked in. Even those that didn't like him agreed that he was top class. Many (or most that I have worked in) office color schemes are boring or clash.
 
This is the sort of person that I'm referring to. But with an interest in flags.
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ABout 17 or so years back, I went out with a girl who was, and by all accounts still is a very good graphic designer, no way in hell would I want her to be doing anything representative of me or the rest of NZ!

Smudge

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Its nothing to do with Keys except that he's badly f++ked this process up. By selecting a very poor committee
 
But the debate should be about a good flag for NZ
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It's certainly nothing to do with Keys. He was just minding his own business playing church organs across Europe and now you've dragged him into this flag debate.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Keys_(organist)'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Keys_(organist)</a>

Winger

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It's certainly nothing to do with Keys. He was just minding his own business playing church organs across Europe and now you've dragged him into this flag debate.
 
<a data-ipb='nomediaparse' href='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Keys_(organist)'>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Keys_(organist)</a>
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Whats your preference Smudge

Wreck Diver

change my countries flag and it then looks like I don't have a country any more. this is just a pile of complete sh*t.

Winger

This is from PR. Agree 100%
 
The top 4 show just how clueless this panel was
 
<img src="https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/11950287_10153221845087672_8504148472277993304_o.jpg" alt="11950287_10153221845087672_8504148472277">

Winger

And here's my choice of a fern
 
<img src="http://www.silverfernflag.org/uploads/1/0/2/2/10222610/1125445_orig.png" alt="1125445_orig.png">

Winger

My third selection
 
<img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/00/Tino_rangatiratanga_flag_on_Harbour_Bridge.jpg/375px-Tino_rangatiratanga_flag_on_Harbour_Bridge.jpg" alt="375px-Tino_rangatiratanga_flag_on_Harbou">

Rancid Schnitzel

jegga

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This is from PR. Agree 100%
 
The top 4 show just how clueless this panel was
 
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None of those flags actually exist, they are just something that was pulled out of someones arse to prove a tenuous point . He was probably a graphic designer though so that makes it ok.

Winger

And the 4th selection
 
<img src="https://40.media.tumblr.com/c8dede1051debf8148dc483d66335ded/tumblr_ntzsdpxGbt1so36e2o1_500.jpg" alt="tumblr_ntzsdpxGbt1so36e2o1_500.jpg">

jegga

You and reality appear to have parted company.

hydro11

Winger if you were picking 4 flags you would at least have to pick the most popular flag with the public.

Rembrandt

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This is from PR. Agree 100%
 
The top 4 show just how clueless this panel was
 
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I agree with the sentiment..however I quite like that redesigned French flag!
Not a Peaker though, doesn't resonate with me at all

Winger

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Winger if you were picking 4 flags you would at least have to pick the most popular flag with the public.
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But they didn't. From what I understand it was a different blue and black + SC fern flag
 
But that would have been my fourth pick (my 4th above was of course not being serious)
 
But then another three that work as flags, are different (so only 1 fern of the 4 not three FFS) and not just crowd favourites.
 
Then market each one. Including what it means plus a number of photos supporting the flag. As is being done with the Red Peak flag. I would have allowed a good budget and a minimum of 3 months for the 4 team to market their flags. And fly the 4 flags in many different locations around NZ.
 
And the selected 4 flags should also have been available to buy straight away at a reduced price.

red terror

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I don't think it will be loved straight off. But its been pointed out earlier that the Canadian flag by example was not universally liked, in fact there were many that hated it. Yet it is iconic now, and loved
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It's beloved in Canada because for over a century the maple leaf has always been the symbol of Canada, and was recognized the world over.
 
The "red peak" flag by comparison makes it look like Kiwis are heavily-heavily into triangles.

The Silver Fern

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