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TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98)

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  • K kev

    @gt12 agree. And replacements were weak at scrum time.

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    @kev said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

    @gt12 agree. And replacements were weak at scrum time.

    No they weren't. The replacements were much better, until BBBR went of and they had a floppy fajita behind them.

    Franks is a slow poke who's only strength is the scrum. Watch him in a match , he does literally FA. No rucks, sod all tackles, no metres, nothing in the line out. So unless he is dominating the scrum, time to go. And for him it is, he's also a bit of a grub and gives away pointless penalites.

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    • TimT Tim

      @gt12 Franks is firmly in my has-been group.

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      @Tim said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

      @gt12 Franks is firmly in my has-been group.

      Yeah, #me too. Good AB, but gone.

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        Bender looking every bit of his 33 years, although his experience will be valuable in a world cup.

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          @Chris-B said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

          Hansen's not keen on small backrows - he had that with Richie, Jerry and Rodders - and I'm sure he noticed how much easier his job was when he got Richie, Jerome and Reado.

          That doesn't explain why he doesn't want to play Savea, Cane, Read though, cause Savea is huge.

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          @Anonymous said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

          @Chris-B said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

          Hansen's not keen on small backrows - he had that with Richie, Jerry and Rodders - and I'm sure he noticed how much easier his job was when he got Richie, Jerome and Reado.

          That doesn't explain why he doesn't want to play Savea, Cane, Read though, cause Savea is huge.

          At least a 5-metre giant by now.

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          • StargazerS Stargazer

            @Anonymous said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

            @Chris-B said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

            Hansen's not keen on small backrows - he had that with Richie, Jerry and Rodders - and I'm sure he noticed how much easier his job was when he got Richie, Jerome and Reado.

            That doesn't explain why he doesn't want to play Savea, Cane, Read though, cause Savea is huge.

            At least a 5-metre giant by now.

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            @Stargazer said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

            @Anonymous said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

            @Chris-B said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

            Hansen's not keen on small backrows - he had that with Richie, Jerry and Rodders - and I'm sure he noticed how much easier his job was when he got Richie, Jerome and Reado.

            That doesn't explain why he doesn't want to play Savea, Cane, Read though, cause Savea is huge.

            At least a 5-metre giant by now.

            He has played like it , this season

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            • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

              Bender looking every bit of his 33 years, although his experience will be valuable in a world cup.

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              @mofitzy_ I'm going to defend Bender. I saw very little wrong today when he is playing out of position.

              He is still the world's best fullback, even at 33, maybe not at wing.

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              • SnowyS Snowy

                @mofitzy_ I'm going to defend Bender. I saw very little wrong today when he is playing out of position.

                He is still the world's best fullback, even at 33, maybe not at wing.

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                @Snowy
                He was fine, just noticing he isn't getting any quicker - to put it nicely.

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                • SnowyS Snowy

                  @Chris-B Who's your 6?

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                  @Snowy said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                  @Chris-B Who's your 6?

                  Right now, Frizell - with the possibility that they'll use Scott Barrett there in the big games if Shannon is found wanting (and assuming BBBR is OK).

                  Unfortunately, we're pretty much stuck with rookies.

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                  • SnowyS Snowy

                    @mofitzy_ I'm going to defend Bender. I saw very little wrong today when he is playing out of position.

                    He is still the world's best fullback, even at 33, maybe not at wing.

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                    @Snowy said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                    @mofitzy_ I'm going to defend Bender. I saw very little wrong today when he is playing out of position.

                    He is still the world's best fullback, even at 33, maybe not at wing.

                    He played 14, which in ABs is second FB. He was hesitant and shown up for speed. Being easily burne dout by a loose forward is not a good look. I hope hope hope he is just rusty, but this was his worst game in black ever. He made no significant contribution

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                    • SnowyS Snowy

                      @mofitzy_ I'm going to defend Bender. I saw very little wrong today when he is playing out of position.

                      He is still the world's best fullback, even at 33, maybe not at wing.

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                      @Snowy said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                      @mofitzy_ I'm going to defend Bender. I saw very little wrong today when he is playing out of position.

                      He is still the world's best fullback, even at 33, maybe not at wing.

                      He is not playing out of position on the wing. It's where he started his rugby career and he's played an awful lot of games there.

                      He got ragdolled a couple of times, missed two of four tackle attempts, threw a few bad passes, and has become considerably slower. I still like Bender a lot, and he also adds valuable experience, but he's far from his old self.

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                      • StargazerS Stargazer

                        @Snowy said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                        @mofitzy_ I'm going to defend Bender. I saw very little wrong today when he is playing out of position.

                        He is still the world's best fullback, even at 33, maybe not at wing.

                        He is not playing out of position on the wing. It's where he started his rugby career and he's played an awful lot of games there.

                        He got ragdolled a couple of times, missed two of four tackle attempts, threw a few bad passes, and has become considerably slower. I still like Bender a lot, and he also adds valuable experience, but he's far from his old self.

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                        @Stargazer said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                        He is not playing out of position on the wing. It's where he started his rugby career and he's played an awful lot of games there.

                        Nah. He is an AB fullback to me. He has been shifted to wing when it suits, but he is a full back.

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                        • mofitzy_M mofitzy_

                          Bender looking every bit of his 33 years, although his experience will be valuable in a world cup.

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                          @mofitzy_ said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                          Bender looking every bit of his 33 years, although his experience will be valuable in a world cup.

                          I remember thinking that Howlett and Mauger were spent forces in 2007 , their experience would have been an asset in the 2007 shambles though.

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                            @Number-10 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

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                            Fuck. That's his wc over imo. Broken arm would have been better.

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                            @akan004 It depends if there is ligament or nerve damage.

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                            • KirwanK Kirwan

                              @hydro11 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                              Mounga was very good in the second half. I think that was just a consequence of him having more space then anything he did to change it.

                              When we started going forward...

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                              @Kirwan said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                              @hydro11 said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                              Mounga was very good in the second half. I think that was just a consequence of him having more space then anything he did to change it.

                              When we started going forward...

                              Mounga was OK in the 2nd half after a below average first half He certainly didn't live up to the hype. And maybe he can only shine when behind a dominating forward pack. But selectors should give him another chance but unfortunately team don't play SA again. And he should look great against a weak Aussie side

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                              • SnowyS Snowy

                                @Stargazer said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                He is not playing out of position on the wing. It's where he started his rugby career and he's played an awful lot of games there.

                                Nah. He is an AB fullback to me. He has been shifted to wing when it suits, but he is a full back.

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                                @Snowy said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                Nah. He is an AB fullback to me. He has been shifted to wing when it suits, but he is a full back.

                                Smith offers so much more at fullback. He’s ok on the wing, but I want him touching the ball more often and making more decisions

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                                • DuluthD Duluth

                                  @Snowy said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                  Nah. He is an AB fullback to me. He has been shifted to wing when it suits, but he is a full back.

                                  Smith offers so much more at fullback. He’s ok on the wing, but I want him touching the ball more often and making more decisions

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                                  @Duluth

                                  Exactly. Especially when comes up and plays in the line - his foot speed in traffic can be very useful.

                                  I think that tonight was about giving RM plenty of time at 10 so that he’ll be fine at 10 in the last 20, when BB goes to 15.

                                  So, I assume the Smith still starts at 15, with Bridge at 14 - he did himself no favors tonight though...

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                                  • DuluthD Duluth

                                    @Snowy said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                    Nah. He is an AB fullback to me. He has been shifted to wing when it suits, but he is a full back.

                                    Smith offers so much more at fullback. He’s ok on the wing, but I want him touching the ball more often and making more decisions

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                                    @Duluth It's the old getting your best players on the field thing. He is our best fullback, but is he our best wing?

                                    Do you move move him to get him on the field? I don't think so.

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                                    • SnowyS Snowy

                                      @Duluth It's the old getting your best players on the field thing. He is our best fullback, but is he our best wing?

                                      Do you move move him to get him on the field? I don't think so.

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                                      @Snowy said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                      @Duluth It's the old getting your best players on the field thing. He is our best fullback, but is he our best wing?

                                      Do you move move him to get him on the field? I don't think so.

                                      If not Bender, who is our best 14?

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                                      • SnowyS Snowy

                                        @Duluth It's the old getting your best players on the field thing. He is our best fullback, but is he our best wing?

                                        Do you move move him to get him on the field? I don't think so.

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                                        @Snowy said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                        @Duluth It's the old getting your best players on the field thing. He is our best fullback, but is he our best wing?

                                        Do you move move him to get him on the field? I don't think so.

                                        Is he our best fullback?

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                                          @Snowy said in TRC: The All Blacks against the Springboks (version 98):

                                          @Duluth It's the old getting your best players on the field thing. He is our best fullback, but is he our best wing?

                                          Do you move move him to get him on the field? I don't think so.

                                          If not Bender, who is our best 14?

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                                          @Machpants That's why I don't get paid to select the ABs and 14 is tough. I don't think wings are interchangeable like some on here.

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