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2019 Rugby Championship

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  • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

    Bok team named for this weekend:-

    Springboks – 15 Warrick Gelant, 14 S’bu Nkosi, 13 Jesse Kriel, 12 Andre Esterhuizen, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Elton Jantjies, 9 Herschel Jantjies, 8 Francois Louw, 7 Pieter-Steph du Toit, 6 Rynhardt Elstadt, 5 Lood de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth (c), 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Bongi Mbonambi, 1 Beast Mtawarira.
    Subs: 16 Schalk Brits, 17 Lizo Gqoboka, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Marvin Orie, 20 Marcell Coetzee, 21 Cobus Reinach, 22 Frans Steyn, 23 Dillyn Leyds

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      So as most of the selected Crusaders won't be going to Argentina, will they put Dane between two Auckland props? A second row of Pat and Retallick? Cane, Savea and Frizell/ Fifita. Smith, Beaudy, Ioane, Laumape, ALB, Smith and Jordie

      Or will some of the Crusaders backs be asked to travel?

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        https://twitter.com/emmemckay/status/1151991115773382663

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          https://twitter.com/emmemckay/status/1151991115773382663

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          @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

          https://twitter.com/emmemckay/status/1151991115773382663

          Caveat emptor. The risk you run buying from anywhere other than the assigned outlet.

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            So with the first two tests done, they will drop a number of players. Are they reducing the team from 39 to 35?

            That would mean they will drop 4 players. Retallick is unavailable for the Bledisloe Cup matches and by Wednesday they'll know whether he'll be available for the RWC.

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            I don't think they'll drop a prop or hooker yet, esp because Aumua hasn't played yet. But if they drop a prop and/or a hooker, the most likely candidates will IMO be Aumua and one of Moli/Laulala.

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            If Brodie is unavailable for the RWC, they'll probably keep Hemopo. He is the only player who was called up as a utility forward, not Fifita! Alternative: call up Pat T and drop an extra loosie.

            I think it's more likely they'll drop a loose forward. I think it will be one of the candidate sixes: Fifita, Frizell, Jacobson and Papali'i. Normally, I'd say it would have to be Fifita, but with Brodie out, who knows what they'll do. I don't think they'll drop Frizell. So if they drop a second loosie, it will be one of Jacobson and Papali'i. I don't expect them to drop Todd (yet).

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            I don't think they'll drop Josh Ioane yet, because he needs to be in the environment for as long as possible, even though he is unlikely to make the RWC squad. I don't see them make a choice between Laumape and SBW yet, so it's probably Ennor who has to go from the midfielders.

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            They're likely to drop an outside back. Jordie is their lovechild, so he wont' get dropped. I think Reece will be the one to get dropped.

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              They're dropping to 34 on Wednesday

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                They're dropping to 34 on Wednesday

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                @Machpants Geez, one more. If Brodie is unavailable for the RWC, he's the 5th player.
                If there's a slight chance he may be available, they'll probably drop another loosie. So two of Fifita, Frizell, Jacobson and Papali'i, instead of one.

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                  They're dropping to 34 on Wednesday

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                  @Machpants said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                  They're dropping to 34 on Wednesday

                  Wednesday. WEDNESDAY. FFS.

                  WTF is going on. We all know when the team is named!

                  I'm going for a lie down.

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                    Tu'inukuafe needs to be in the 23 for Perth if he remains in the squad. Some of the squad would be better served to be released to their province to play in the next 2-3 weeks.

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                    • StargazerS Stargazer

                      So with the first two tests done, they will drop a number of players. Are they reducing the team from 39 to 35?

                      That would mean they will drop 4 players. Retallick is unavailable for the Bledisloe Cup matches and by Wednesday they'll know whether he'll be available for the RWC.

                      -1
                      I don't think they'll drop a prop or hooker yet, esp because Aumua hasn't played yet. But if they drop a prop and/or a hooker, the most likely candidates will IMO be Aumua and one of Moli/Laulala.

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                      If Brodie is unavailable for the RWC, they'll probably keep Hemopo. He is the only player who was called up as a utility forward, not Fifita! Alternative: call up Pat T and drop an extra loosie.

                      I think it's more likely they'll drop a loose forward. I think it will be one of the candidate sixes: Fifita, Frizell, Jacobson and Papali'i. Normally, I'd say it would have to be Fifita, but with Brodie out, who knows what they'll do. I don't think they'll drop Frizell. So if they drop a second loosie, it will be one of Jacobson and Papali'i. I don't expect them to drop Todd (yet).

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                      I don't think they'll drop Josh Ioane yet, because he needs to be in the environment for as long as possible, even though he is unlikely to make the RWC squad. I don't see them make a choice between Laumape and SBW yet, so it's probably Ennor who has to go from the midfielders.

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                      They're likely to drop an outside back. Jordie is their lovechild, so he wont' get dropped. I think Reece will be the one to get dropped.

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                      @Stargazer I think they will drop a prop and a hooker - I think this squad is a bit like the one they took to Japan last year - some guys were only picked to allow them to rest their big guns.

                      We don't need seven props or four hookers within the squad of 34.

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                        https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1155269955719274496

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                          Sure, they're probably hopeful he's available tomorrow! Likely is what I need to hear, not hopeful

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                            dislocations can be straight forward and he might be sweet for the RWC, but could be complicated and potentially see him requiring reconstructive surgery and be gone for the rest of the year.

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                              https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/sport/rugby/steve-hansen-says-brodie-retallick-good-possibility-make-rugby-world-cup-despite-shoulder-injury

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                                No major nerve or ligament damage then. Good stuff, he should make it in time. Thank god for that.

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                                  https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1155269955719274496

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                                  @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                  https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1155269955719274496

                                  No timeline has been given on my date with Winona Ryder either, but I remain hopeful.

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                                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                                    @Stargazer said in 2019 Rugby Championship:

                                    https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1155269955719274496

                                    No timeline has been given on my date with Winona Ryder either, but I remain hopeful.

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                                    @antipodean I expect your time line matches mine...this side of never.

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                                      Awesome to see young gun Jordan Petaia back. He is the Folau type player the Wallabies need. Get rid of Tevita Kuridrani and Hodge - both are a bit average IMO. Bring in Petaia & Maddocks and the Wallabies start to look dangerous again. Where is Maddocks anyway?

                                      Wallabies squad for Bledisloe I

                                      Forwards: Allan Alaalatoa (Brumbies), Rory Arnold (Brumbies), Adam Coleman (Rebels), Folau Fainga'a (Brumbies), Michael Hooper (capt) (Waratahs), Luke Jones (Rebels), Sekope Kepu (Waratahs), Tolu Latu (Waratahs), Isi Naisarani (Rebels), David Pocock (Brumbies),Tatafu Polota-Nau (Leicester), Izack Rodda (Reds), Rob Simmons (Waratahs), Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (Reds), Scott Sio (Brumbies), James Slipper (Brumbies), Taniela Tupou (Reds), Jordan Uelese (Rebels), Rob Valetini (Brumbies), Liam Wright (Reds).

                                      Backs: Adam Ashley-Cooper (Waratahs), Tom Banks (Brumbies), Kurtley Beale (Waratahs), Bernard Foley (Waratahs), Will Genia (Rebels), Dane Haylett-Petty (Rebels), Reece Hodge (Rebels), Samu Kerevi (Reds), Marika Koroibete (Rebels), Tevita Kuridrani (Brumbies), Christian Leali'ifano (Brumbies), James O'Connor (Reds), Jordan Petaia (Reds), Joe Powell (Brumbies), Matt Toomua (Rebels), Nic White (Exeter Chiefs).

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                                        Awesome to see young gun Jordan Petaia back. He is the Folau type player the Wallabies need. Get rid of Tevita Kuridrani and Hodge - both are a bit average IMO. Bring in Petaia & Maddocks and the Wallabies start to look dangerous again. Where is Maddocks anyway?

                                        Wallabies squad for Bledisloe I

                                        Forwards: Allan Alaalatoa (Brumbies), Rory Arnold (Brumbies), Adam Coleman (Rebels), Folau Fainga'a (Brumbies), Michael Hooper (capt) (Waratahs), Luke Jones (Rebels), Sekope Kepu (Waratahs), Tolu Latu (Waratahs), Isi Naisarani (Rebels), David Pocock (Brumbies),Tatafu Polota-Nau (Leicester), Izack Rodda (Reds), Rob Simmons (Waratahs), Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (Reds), Scott Sio (Brumbies), James Slipper (Brumbies), Taniela Tupou (Reds), Jordan Uelese (Rebels), Rob Valetini (Brumbies), Liam Wright (Reds).

                                        Backs: Adam Ashley-Cooper (Waratahs), Tom Banks (Brumbies), Kurtley Beale (Waratahs), Bernard Foley (Waratahs), Will Genia (Rebels), Dane Haylett-Petty (Rebels), Reece Hodge (Rebels), Samu Kerevi (Reds), Marika Koroibete (Rebels), Tevita Kuridrani (Brumbies), Christian Leali'ifano (Brumbies), James O'Connor (Reds), Jordan Petaia (Reds), Joe Powell (Brumbies), Matt Toomua (Rebels), Nic White (Exeter Chiefs).

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                                        @Canes4life it’s amazing Adam Ashley-Cooper is still in the side.

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                                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                          Awesome to see young gun Jordan Petaia back. He is the Folau type player the Wallabies need. Get rid of Tevita Kuridrani and Hodge - both are a bit average IMO. Bring in Petaia & Maddocks and the Wallabies start to look dangerous again. Where is Maddocks anyway?

                                          Wallabies squad for Bledisloe I

                                          Forwards: Allan Alaalatoa (Brumbies), Rory Arnold (Brumbies), Adam Coleman (Rebels), Folau Fainga'a (Brumbies), Michael Hooper (capt) (Waratahs), Luke Jones (Rebels), Sekope Kepu (Waratahs), Tolu Latu (Waratahs), Isi Naisarani (Rebels), David Pocock (Brumbies),Tatafu Polota-Nau (Leicester), Izack Rodda (Reds), Rob Simmons (Waratahs), Lukhan Salakaia-Loto (Reds), Scott Sio (Brumbies), James Slipper (Brumbies), Taniela Tupou (Reds), Jordan Uelese (Rebels), Rob Valetini (Brumbies), Liam Wright (Reds).

                                          Backs: Adam Ashley-Cooper (Waratahs), Tom Banks (Brumbies), Kurtley Beale (Waratahs), Bernard Foley (Waratahs), Will Genia (Rebels), Dane Haylett-Petty (Rebels), Reece Hodge (Rebels), Samu Kerevi (Reds), Marika Koroibete (Rebels), Tevita Kuridrani (Brumbies), Christian Leali'ifano (Brumbies), James O'Connor (Reds), Jordan Petaia (Reds), Joe Powell (Brumbies), Matt Toomua (Rebels), Nic White (Exeter Chiefs).

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                                          @Canes4life Maddocks has been dropped. His form went south the second half of the season.

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