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  • StargazerS Stargazer

    I've been trying to find the article I read it in, but haven't found it.

    In one of the articles discussing BB signing with the Blues and a potential move from Jordie to the Blues, it was pointed out that the Blues are the only franchise in which NZR has a stake, while the other franchises are completely privately owned. The author suggested that NZR's role in players signing with Blues in these circumstances might be considered - I can't remember the words used - as a conflict of interests (?) and that the private owners of the other franchises wouldn't be happy.

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    @Stargazer Sounds like a law suit waiting to happen by the private owners v NZR

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    • ChrisC Chris

      @Canes4life You would have to wonder how much this pisses off the Canes players.I will play for you this year but I don't really want to, I want to play for another team against you guys after that.Just go now ffs.
      Also does it not hold franchises to ransom sign a 2 year contract with an outclause to play at another franchise,So the SR team feels that have to pander to him to try and keep him.
      Nah you don't want to play for a team just leave.
      Canes put him on the Bench or don't pick him.

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      @Chris said in Super Rugby News:

      @Canes4life You would have to wonder how much this pisses off the Canes players.I will play for you this year but I don't really want to, I want to play for another team against you guys after that.Just go now ffs.
      Also does it not hold franchises to ransom sign a 2 year contract with an outclause to play at another franchise,So the SR team feels that have to pander to him to try and keep him.
      Nah you don't want to play for a team just leave.
      Canes put him on the Bench or don't pick him.

      Hahaha that is idiotic. Why would they sign him only to bench him or leave him out all together. Some people need to get a grip.

      Wasn’t this same thing discussed recently with Akira and Reiko talking about potential moves the other direction if the Blues didn’t sort their shit out? But this is Jordie and he is over rated apparently.

      Really this is all speculation at this stage. This “option” to switch teams might not be an option at all. Maybe it is just a one year deal with the Canes. No different to any other one year deals except he has committed to NZ for longer.

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      • pukunuiP pukunui

        @Chris said in Super Rugby News:

        @Canes4life You would have to wonder how much this pisses off the Canes players.I will play for you this year but I don't really want to, I want to play for another team against you guys after that.Just go now ffs.
        Also does it not hold franchises to ransom sign a 2 year contract with an outclause to play at another franchise,So the SR team feels that have to pander to him to try and keep him.
        Nah you don't want to play for a team just leave.
        Canes put him on the Bench or don't pick him.

        Hahaha that is idiotic. Why would they sign him only to bench him or leave him out all together. Some people need to get a grip.

        Wasn’t this same thing discussed recently with Akira and Reiko talking about potential moves the other direction if the Blues didn’t sort their shit out? But this is Jordie and he is over rated apparently.

        Really this is all speculation at this stage. This “option” to switch teams might not be an option at all. Maybe it is just a one year deal with the Canes. No different to any other one year deals except he has committed to NZ for longer.

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        @pukunui He is overated. He certainly hasn't done the hard yards or earn't the extras in his contract BB,BBR and Whitlock have its Bullshit.

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        • ChrisC Chris

          @pukunui He is overated. He certainly hasn't done the hard yards or earn't the extras in his contract BB,BBR and Whitlock have its Bullshit.

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          @Chris what extras?

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          • ChrisC Chris

            @pukunui He is overated. He certainly hasn't done the hard yards or earn't the extras in his contract BB,BBR and Whitlock have its Bullshit.

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            @Chris said in Super Rugby News:

            @pukunui He is overated. He certainly hasn't done the hard yards or earn't the extras in his contract BB,BBR and Whitlock have its Bullshit.

            What extras ? You are making shit up

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            • BonesB Bones

              @Chris what extras?

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              @Bones said in Super Rugby News:

              @Chris what extras?

              Snap

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              • pukunuiP pukunui

                @Chris said in Super Rugby News:

                @pukunui He is overated. He certainly hasn't done the hard yards or earn't the extras in his contract BB,BBR and Whitlock have its Bullshit.

                What extras ? You are making shit up

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                @pukunui Sabbaticals and conditions on resigning they have written in.This starts a bad contracting model for players to sign a contract with an outclause to play for another club in the same competition and in the same country after one year.
                Are you loyal to that club why play there ? why not move now and be done with it.If you don't want to be there move on.

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                • ChrisC Chris

                  @pukunui Sabbaticals and conditions on resigning they have written in.This starts a bad contracting model for players to sign a contract with an outclause to play for another club in the same competition and in the same country after one year.
                  Are you loyal to that club why play there ? why not move now and be done with it.If you don't want to be there move on.

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                  @Chris said in Super Rugby News:

                  @pukunui Sabbaticals and conditions on resigning they have written in.This starts a bad contracting model for players to sign a contract with an outclause to play for another club in the same competition and in the same country after one year.
                  Are you loyal to that club why play there ? why not move now and be done with it.If you don't want to be there move on.

                  What sabbaticals? What conditions? Nothing has be announced yet as far as i know.

                  How do you know this isn’t just a straight one year deal with the canes? Then he will negotiate the next year depending on where he wants to play. That poorly written article is nothing to go by.

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                  • pukunuiP pukunui

                    @Chris said in Super Rugby News:

                    @pukunui Sabbaticals and conditions on resigning they have written in.This starts a bad contracting model for players to sign a contract with an outclause to play for another club in the same competition and in the same country after one year.
                    Are you loyal to that club why play there ? why not move now and be done with it.If you don't want to be there move on.

                    What sabbaticals? What conditions? Nothing has be announced yet as far as i know.

                    How do you know this isn’t just a straight one year deal with the canes? Then he will negotiate the next year depending on where he wants to play. That poorly written article is nothing to go by.

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                    @pukunui Thats not what has been reported is it.Ok lets see what is announced when it all comes out.
                    Too me if its true its Bullshit.You think what you like

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                    • ChrisC Chris

                      @pukunui Thats not what has been reported is it.Ok lets see what is announced when it all comes out.
                      Too me if its true its Bullshit.You think what you like

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                      @Chris said in Super Rugby News:

                      @pukunui Thats not what has been reported is it.Ok lets see what is announced when it all comes out.
                      Too me if its true its Bullshit.You think what you like

                      Plenty of stuff has been reported, most of it directly contradicting the previous report. But yes, I suggest everyone just wait and see what is announced before getting outraged over bullshit special treatment.

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                      • pukunuiP pukunui

                        @Chris said in Super Rugby News:

                        @pukunui Thats not what has been reported is it.Ok lets see what is announced when it all comes out.
                        Too me if its true its Bullshit.You think what you like

                        Plenty of stuff has been reported, most of it directly contradicting the previous report. But yes, I suggest everyone just wait and see what is announced before getting outraged over bullshit special treatment.

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                        @pukunui Fair call

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                          If he has signed a one year contract, is that really that unusual? Don't a few guys do that now?
                          I know he committed to NZ Rugby for 2 years, according to that article. Kinda unusual, but really not much different to contracting year by year in my opinion.

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                            Canes don't have to sign him do they? They should just send him to the Blues now. Better for everyone.

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                            • ToddyT Toddy

                              Canes don't have to sign him do they? They should just send him to the Blues now. Better for everyone.

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                              @Toddy That would make the most sense.

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                              • pukunuiP pukunui

                                Haha a few people getting their knickers in a twist over this. Why shouldn’t he want to play with his brother? No different than a player wanting to be based in a particular city near family or play under a certain coach or any other readon for choosing a team to sign for.
                                As far as i can see he hasn’t been offered what BBBR, whitelock and BB have been. He hasn’t been given a sabbatical he just hasn’t finalised the super rugby component of the deal. I don’t see anything wring with that.

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                                @pukunui

                                Alot of sensitive Canes fans

                                Once BB went Jordie was goneski

                                So he likely goes to Auckland to play with Beaudy and lives in a major city

                                Or Crusaders & play in his preferred position of #12, with coaches he knows atm + spend a year at least with Scott Barrett

                                If you're a good AB player you've alot of leverage Sign shorter contacts with opt outs/players options + Sabbaticals clauses

                                NZR are a doing a good job NZ Super Rugby clubs better get used to this

                                Japs are offering alot of money to play mickey mouse rugby

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                                  @pukunui

                                  Alot of sensitive Canes fans

                                  Once BB went Jordie was goneski

                                  So he likely goes to Auckland to play with Beaudy and lives in a major city

                                  Or Crusaders & play in his preferred position of #12, with coaches he knows atm + spend a year at least with Scott Barrett

                                  If you're a good AB player you've alot of leverage Sign shorter contacts with opt outs/players options + Sabbaticals clauses

                                  NZR are a doing a good job NZ Super Rugby clubs better get used to this

                                  Japs are offering alot of money to play mickey mouse rugby

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                                  @Jaguares4real

                                  So he likely goes to Auckland to play with Beaudy and lives in a major city

                                  You realise Wellington is the capital right?

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                                  • MN5M MN5

                                    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                    @Canes4life Sorry for correcting you, but it's McClutchie, not McLutchie.

                                    I wish the printers who sorted me 1000 business cards with my name spelt wrong were this pedantic.

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                                    @MN5 said in Super Rugby News:

                                    @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                                    @Canes4life Sorry for correcting you, but it's McClutchie, not McLutchie.

                                    I wish the printers who sorted me 1000 business cards with my name spelt wrong were this pedantic.

                                    I can't believe they couldn't spell Ronald correctly!

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                                      Hahahahaha, he isn't going anywhere. Stupid clickbait media!

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                                        Oh, wait a minute ... that's not in the Hurricanes media release:

                                        Under his contract, Barrett also has the option to change Super Rugby clubs at some point post 2020. Barrett said he still had a strong desire to play Super Rugby alongside his brothers at some point in his career but added that when that would happen remained unclear.
                                        

                                        http://www.allblacks.com/News/34468/jordie-barrett-inks-new-deal-with-nz-rugby

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                                          Yep, a 3 year deal with NZ rugby but only committing the one year with the Canes. So the writing is pretty much on the wall given BB is off to the blues and Scott would be a madman to leave the Saders.

                                          I'm with @Chris, this is lame imo. He is a talent but he's rocks and diamonds at the moment. He hasn't, imo, earned the right to have those sorts of terms in his contract. I guess NZ rugby are looking more and more at contracting arrangements (in addition to pure $$) to keep a wider range of talent in NZ??

                                          I guess he could stick with us after 2020, but that seems highly unlikely.

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