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  • ChrisC Chris

    @pukunui He is overated. He certainly hasn't done the hard yards or earn't the extras in his contract BB,BBR and Whitlock have its Bullshit.

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    @Chris what extras?

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    • ChrisC Chris

      @pukunui He is overated. He certainly hasn't done the hard yards or earn't the extras in his contract BB,BBR and Whitlock have its Bullshit.

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      @Chris said in Super Rugby News:

      @pukunui He is overated. He certainly hasn't done the hard yards or earn't the extras in his contract BB,BBR and Whitlock have its Bullshit.

      What extras ? You are making shit up

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      • BonesB Bones

        @Chris what extras?

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        @Bones said in Super Rugby News:

        @Chris what extras?

        Snap

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        • pukunuiP pukunui

          @Chris said in Super Rugby News:

          @pukunui He is overated. He certainly hasn't done the hard yards or earn't the extras in his contract BB,BBR and Whitlock have its Bullshit.

          What extras ? You are making shit up

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          @pukunui Sabbaticals and conditions on resigning they have written in.This starts a bad contracting model for players to sign a contract with an outclause to play for another club in the same competition and in the same country after one year.
          Are you loyal to that club why play there ? why not move now and be done with it.If you don't want to be there move on.

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          • ChrisC Chris

            @pukunui Sabbaticals and conditions on resigning they have written in.This starts a bad contracting model for players to sign a contract with an outclause to play for another club in the same competition and in the same country after one year.
            Are you loyal to that club why play there ? why not move now and be done with it.If you don't want to be there move on.

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            @Chris said in Super Rugby News:

            @pukunui Sabbaticals and conditions on resigning they have written in.This starts a bad contracting model for players to sign a contract with an outclause to play for another club in the same competition and in the same country after one year.
            Are you loyal to that club why play there ? why not move now and be done with it.If you don't want to be there move on.

            What sabbaticals? What conditions? Nothing has be announced yet as far as i know.

            How do you know this isn’t just a straight one year deal with the canes? Then he will negotiate the next year depending on where he wants to play. That poorly written article is nothing to go by.

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            • pukunuiP pukunui

              @Chris said in Super Rugby News:

              @pukunui Sabbaticals and conditions on resigning they have written in.This starts a bad contracting model for players to sign a contract with an outclause to play for another club in the same competition and in the same country after one year.
              Are you loyal to that club why play there ? why not move now and be done with it.If you don't want to be there move on.

              What sabbaticals? What conditions? Nothing has be announced yet as far as i know.

              How do you know this isn’t just a straight one year deal with the canes? Then he will negotiate the next year depending on where he wants to play. That poorly written article is nothing to go by.

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              @pukunui Thats not what has been reported is it.Ok lets see what is announced when it all comes out.
              Too me if its true its Bullshit.You think what you like

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              • ChrisC Chris

                @pukunui Thats not what has been reported is it.Ok lets see what is announced when it all comes out.
                Too me if its true its Bullshit.You think what you like

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                @Chris said in Super Rugby News:

                @pukunui Thats not what has been reported is it.Ok lets see what is announced when it all comes out.
                Too me if its true its Bullshit.You think what you like

                Plenty of stuff has been reported, most of it directly contradicting the previous report. But yes, I suggest everyone just wait and see what is announced before getting outraged over bullshit special treatment.

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                • pukunuiP pukunui

                  @Chris said in Super Rugby News:

                  @pukunui Thats not what has been reported is it.Ok lets see what is announced when it all comes out.
                  Too me if its true its Bullshit.You think what you like

                  Plenty of stuff has been reported, most of it directly contradicting the previous report. But yes, I suggest everyone just wait and see what is announced before getting outraged over bullshit special treatment.

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                  @pukunui Fair call

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                    Darren
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                    If he has signed a one year contract, is that really that unusual? Don't a few guys do that now?
                    I know he committed to NZ Rugby for 2 years, according to that article. Kinda unusual, but really not much different to contracting year by year in my opinion.

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                      Canes don't have to sign him do they? They should just send him to the Blues now. Better for everyone.

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                      • ToddyT Toddy

                        Canes don't have to sign him do they? They should just send him to the Blues now. Better for everyone.

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                        @Toddy That would make the most sense.

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                        • pukunuiP pukunui

                          Haha a few people getting their knickers in a twist over this. Why shouldn’t he want to play with his brother? No different than a player wanting to be based in a particular city near family or play under a certain coach or any other readon for choosing a team to sign for.
                          As far as i can see he hasn’t been offered what BBBR, whitelock and BB have been. He hasn’t been given a sabbatical he just hasn’t finalised the super rugby component of the deal. I don’t see anything wring with that.

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                          @pukunui

                          Alot of sensitive Canes fans

                          Once BB went Jordie was goneski

                          So he likely goes to Auckland to play with Beaudy and lives in a major city

                          Or Crusaders & play in his preferred position of #12, with coaches he knows atm + spend a year at least with Scott Barrett

                          If you're a good AB player you've alot of leverage Sign shorter contacts with opt outs/players options + Sabbaticals clauses

                          NZR are a doing a good job NZ Super Rugby clubs better get used to this

                          Japs are offering alot of money to play mickey mouse rugby

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                            @pukunui

                            Alot of sensitive Canes fans

                            Once BB went Jordie was goneski

                            So he likely goes to Auckland to play with Beaudy and lives in a major city

                            Or Crusaders & play in his preferred position of #12, with coaches he knows atm + spend a year at least with Scott Barrett

                            If you're a good AB player you've alot of leverage Sign shorter contacts with opt outs/players options + Sabbaticals clauses

                            NZR are a doing a good job NZ Super Rugby clubs better get used to this

                            Japs are offering alot of money to play mickey mouse rugby

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                            @Jaguares4real

                            So he likely goes to Auckland to play with Beaudy and lives in a major city

                            You realise Wellington is the capital right?

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                            • MN5M MN5

                              @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                              @Canes4life Sorry for correcting you, but it's McClutchie, not McLutchie.

                              I wish the printers who sorted me 1000 business cards with my name spelt wrong were this pedantic.

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                              @MN5 said in Super Rugby News:

                              @Stargazer said in Super Rugby News:

                              @Canes4life Sorry for correcting you, but it's McClutchie, not McLutchie.

                              I wish the printers who sorted me 1000 business cards with my name spelt wrong were this pedantic.

                              I can't believe they couldn't spell Ronald correctly!

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                                Hahahahaha, he isn't going anywhere. Stupid clickbait media!

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                                  Oh, wait a minute ... that's not in the Hurricanes media release:

                                  Under his contract, Barrett also has the option to change Super Rugby clubs at some point post 2020. Barrett said he still had a strong desire to play Super Rugby alongside his brothers at some point in his career but added that when that would happen remained unclear.
                                  

                                  http://www.allblacks.com/News/34468/jordie-barrett-inks-new-deal-with-nz-rugby

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                                    Yep, a 3 year deal with NZ rugby but only committing the one year with the Canes. So the writing is pretty much on the wall given BB is off to the blues and Scott would be a madman to leave the Saders.

                                    I'm with @Chris, this is lame imo. He is a talent but he's rocks and diamonds at the moment. He hasn't, imo, earned the right to have those sorts of terms in his contract. I guess NZ rugby are looking more and more at contracting arrangements (in addition to pure $$) to keep a wider range of talent in NZ??

                                    I guess he could stick with us after 2020, but that seems highly unlikely.

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                                    • YeetyaahY Yeetyaah

                                      @Jaguares4real

                                      So he likely goes to Auckland to play with Beaudy and lives in a major city

                                      You realise Wellington is the capital right?

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                                      @Yeetyaah

                                      Oh I am very aware
                                      Does not change the fact that Auckland is by far the largest city in NZ

                                      Wellington like Canberra may be the Capital City of their respective nations
                                      but are merely provincial towns on a global scale

                                      Sydney and Auckland are the most world renowned cities in AUS + NZ

                                      But I appreciate your attempts in teaching me the Geography of NZ
                                      Save it for the next non Kiwi you encounter on TSF 🤣 🤣

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                                        pukunui
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                                        Now that we actually have something official it is interesting to see that it is a three year deal with the canes and NZ but with a Canes “out clause” rather than a one year Canes deal. I guess that provides the most certainty out of any of the flexible options.
                                        While it appears a strange way to go about it im glad his out clause is only at super rugby level and not one to leave NZ all together.

                                        I don’t think this type of contract will provide any more of a distraction than the will he, won’t he stuff we see with lots of players for multiple seasons. It will provide lots of click bait article material though.

                                        I wonder if there is a bit more to this than the wanting to play with brothers/in midfield thing.
                                        Someone mentioned a while back that there might be tension between some of the players (eg.BB) and Plumtree. When is Plumtree contracted until?

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                                          John Plumtree: "We want to really develop Jordie as a leader and he will be a key driver in our team for the next three seasons. He is going to play a big role on and off the field for us."

                                          Interesting quote considering it looks fairly evident that he won't be a Cane in 2021.

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